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<table border="0" cellpadding="1" cellspacing="1" width="99%" align="center"> <tr bgcolor="#000000"><td> <table border="0" width="100%" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="0"> <tr bgcolor="#000099"> <td colspan="2" align="left"> <font size="2" color="#ffffff" face="Verdana, Arial"> <b>T O P I C R E V I E W</b> </font></td></tr> <tr bgcolor="#dedfdf"> <td valign="top" width="18%"> <font size="2" face="Verdana, Arial"> <b>66coupe</b> <br /><small>Member # 8549</small> </font></td> <td width="82%"> <font size="1" face="Verdana, Arial"> <img src="https://californiafords.com/ubb/posticon.gif" border="0" alt=" - " /> posted <script language="JavaScript1.3" type="text/javascript"> document.writeln(timestamp(new Date(2009,4,13,16,57,0), dfrm, tfrm, 0, 0, 0, 0)); </script><hr /> </font> <font size="2" face="Verdana, Arial"> so my good friend just bought the 2nd camaro in california and the first to be under 18. its a yellow v6 automatic. he brought it over the other day, and i like it but i look at my best friends 68 rs/ss and it honestly doesnt compare like the mustang does with the early models like my 66.<br />the one thing i really like about it is the console gauges.<br />i went to the dealership and i found out that chevy is sending them the v8 only fully loaded and the total price for the v8s is 48,000. has anyone heard this? i havent heard about the v6 camaro. what are the prices for the new mustang gt? <br />ive done some researching and saw the camaro tests threw done a 13.0 in the 1/4 and 5.0 in the 0-60.<br />the mustang ran a 13.5 in the 1/4 and a 5.2 0-60.<br />anyone have different times?<br /><br />all in all i think the mustang looks better and more comparable to the older mustang. and theyre cheaper so just slap on some parts and itll be right up there if not beating the camaro... the mustang has a HUGE aftermarket in parts. the camaro does but not as much.<br />thats just my 2 cents what do you all think? <img border="0" alt="[patriot]" title="" src="graemlins/patriot.gif" /> <br /> </font> </td></tr> <tr bgcolor="#f7f7f7"> <td valign="top" width="18%"> <font size="2" face="Verdana, Arial"> <b>N8</b> <br /><small>Member # 6048</small> </font></td> <td width="82%"> <font size="1" face="Verdana, Arial"> <img src="https://californiafords.com/ubb/posticon.gif" border="0" alt=" - " /> posted <script language="JavaScript1.3" type="text/javascript"> document.writeln(timestamp(new Date(2009,4,13,16,59,0), dfrm, tfrm, 0, 0, 0, 0)); </script><hr /> </font> <font size="2" face="Verdana, Arial"> And why did you not take pics of your friends car for us to gawk at? <br /> </font> </td></tr> <tr bgcolor="#dedfdf"> <td valign="top" width="18%"> <font size="2" face="Verdana, Arial"> <b>66coupe</b> <br /><small>Member # 8549</small> </font></td> <td width="82%"> <font size="1" face="Verdana, Arial"> <img src="https://californiafords.com/ubb/posticon.gif" border="0" alt=" - " /> posted <script language="JavaScript1.3" type="text/javascript"> document.writeln(timestamp(new Date(2009,4,13,17,3,0), dfrm, tfrm, 0, 0, 0, 0)); </script><hr /> </font> <font size="2" face="Verdana, Arial"> i will im just not positive how to put pics up from my phone onto the forum.. ill probly havta go onto my computer at home. but i will <br /> </font> </td></tr> <tr bgcolor="#f7f7f7"> <td valign="top" width="18%"> <font size="2" face="Verdana, Arial"> <b>JOEFOX87</b> <br /><small>Member # 8331</small> </font></td> <td width="82%"> <font size="1" face="Verdana, Arial"> <img src="https://californiafords.com/ubb/posticon.gif" border="0" alt=" - " /> posted <script language="JavaScript1.3" type="text/javascript"> document.writeln(timestamp(new Date(2009,4,13,17,8,0), dfrm, tfrm, 0, 0, 0, 0)); </script><hr /> </font> <font size="2" face="Verdana, Arial"> Well, you have to think about the Mustang costs less, will probably be cheaper to insure, and will have support for a while. And to think that the camaro with the 100 HP difference still only can produce a .5 second advantage is ridiculous to me. <br /><br />Think also business like, GM is almost bankrupt so..... <br /> </font> </td></tr> <tr bgcolor="#dedfdf"> <td valign="top" width="18%"> <font size="2" face="Verdana, Arial"> <b>Black 02 SS</b> <br /><small>Member # 5939</small> </font></td> <td width="82%"> <font size="1" face="Verdana, Arial"> <img src="https://californiafords.com/ubb/posticon.gif" border="0" alt=" - " /> posted <script language="JavaScript1.3" type="text/javascript"> document.writeln(timestamp(new Date(2009,4,13,17,24,0), dfrm, tfrm, 0, 0, 0, 0)); </script><hr /> </font> <font size="2" face="Verdana, Arial"> A loaded 2SS with leather and the RS package (20s, HID, heads up display) can be had for 36k. A lot of dealers are going to be marking them up. I'm sure they'll be able to do better than a 13.0, just need to get a good driver in there at an actual race track. But they are heavy at 3860 for the manual SS. I wouldn't get the Mustang simply cuz the motor is TOO SMALL. The weight advantage would be good though. <br /> </font> </td></tr> <tr bgcolor="#f7f7f7"> <td valign="top" width="18%"> <font size="2" face="Verdana, Arial"> <b>66coupe</b> <br /><small>Member # 8549</small> </font></td> <td width="82%"> <font size="1" face="Verdana, Arial"> <img src="https://californiafords.com/ubb/posticon.gif" border="0" alt=" - " /> posted <script language="JavaScript1.3" type="text/javascript"> document.writeln(timestamp(new Date(2009,4,13,18,7,0), dfrm, tfrm, 0, 0, 0, 0)); </script><hr /> </font> <font size="2" face="Verdana, Arial"> ya the ford hell imrpoved the suspsion handling and the interior, while shedding 400 pounds... and ya they can be had for 36 but no dealership is selling them for that... and i dont know if the dealership is correct but they said they are only selling them fully loaded...<br />i dfinetly have to agree with joefox87<br />oh and i heard GM is supposed to be filing for bankruptcy in the next 2 weeks <br /> </font> </td></tr> <tr bgcolor="#dedfdf"> <td valign="top" width="18%"> <font size="2" face="Verdana, Arial"> <b>66coupe</b> <br /><small>Member # 8549</small> </font></td> <td width="82%"> <font size="1" face="Verdana, Arial"> <img src="https://californiafords.com/ubb/posticon.gif" border="0" alt=" - " /> posted <script language="JavaScript1.3" type="text/javascript"> document.writeln(timestamp(new Date(2009,4,13,19,17,0), dfrm, tfrm, 0, 0, 0, 0)); </script><hr /> </font> <font size="2" face="Verdana, Arial"> ya the ford hell imrpoved the suspsion handling and the interior, while shedding 400 pounds... and ya they can be had for 36 but no dealership is selling them for that... and i dont know if the dealership is correct but they said they are only selling them fully loaded...<br />i dfinetly have to agree with joefox87<br />oh and i heard GM is supposed to be filing for bankruptcy in the next 2 weeks <br /> </font> </td></tr> <tr bgcolor="#f7f7f7"> <td valign="top" width="18%"> <font size="2" face="Verdana, Arial"> <b>slowback67</b> <br /><small>Member # 6348</small> </font></td> <td width="82%"> <font size="1" face="Verdana, Arial"> <img src="https://californiafords.com/ubb/posticon.gif" border="0" alt=" - " /> posted <script language="JavaScript1.3" type="text/javascript"> document.writeln(timestamp(new Date(2009,4,13,22,56,0), dfrm, tfrm, 0, 0, 0, 0)); </script><hr /> </font> <font size="2" face="Verdana, Arial"> GM is soon to be government motors,if non car people make the call I would think they would only make a v6 or hybrid model <img border="0" title="" alt="[Smile]" src="smile.gif" /> : <br /> </font> </td></tr> <tr bgcolor="#dedfdf"> <td valign="top" width="18%"> <font size="2" face="Verdana, Arial"> <b>HaulinAss Motorsports</b> <br /><small>Member # 541</small> </font></td> <td width="82%"> <font size="1" face="Verdana, Arial"> <img src="https://californiafords.com/ubb/posticon.gif" border="0" alt=" - " /> posted <script language="JavaScript1.3" type="text/javascript"> document.writeln(timestamp(new Date(2009,4,13,23,53,0), dfrm, tfrm, 0, 0, 0, 0)); </script><hr /> </font> <font size="2" face="Verdana, Arial"> Funny this thread is here<br /><br />I Was at the dealership today dropping my truck off for service and an 09 Black Camaro was sitting there. At first glance I thought that it looked like shit and didnt even think it was a Camaro to be honest. First thing I saw what the backend of it and I wasnt impressed at all. The side/profile looked good then I got to the front. Again wasnt impressed at all. Inside was okay but looked like every other new gm does, nothing fancy. Sticker price was 28k and it was a 6cyl/auto.Asked if the V8's had any body differences or looked any better and was told there is suttle diferences. I dunno guess itll have to grow on me as I think almost all 07-up Chevy/GMC cars and trucks look like shit<br /><br />Weird thing was though, the car had 3 polished wheels and one painted wheel and it was just dropped off yesterday. Even the service guys were scratching their heads on that one<br /><br />Of the Big 3, The Challenger gets my vote HANDS DOWN!!!!!!! There was an episode of Hotrod TV where they tested the 3 and I wasnt inpressed with the stang or the camaro.<br /><br /><br />Here are a few pics<br /><br /> <img src="http://i145.photobucket.com/albums/r237/haulinassmotorsports/camaro1.jpg" alt=" - " /><br /> <img src="http://i145.photobucket.com/albums/r237/haulinassmotorsports/camaro2.jpg" alt=" - " /><br /> <img src="http://i145.photobucket.com/albums/r237/haulinassmotorsports/camaro3.jpg" alt=" - " /><br /> <img src="http://i145.photobucket.com/albums/r237/haulinassmotorsports/camaro4.jpg" alt=" - " /><br /> <br /> <small>[ May 14, 2009, 12:11 AM: Message edited by: HaulinAss Motorsports ]</small> <br /> </font> </td></tr> <tr bgcolor="#f7f7f7"> <td valign="top" width="18%"> <font size="2" face="Verdana, Arial"> <b>slowback67</b> <br /><small>Member # 6348</small> </font></td> <td width="82%"> <font size="1" face="Verdana, Arial"> <img src="https://californiafords.com/ubb/posticon.gif" border="0" alt=" - " /> posted <script language="JavaScript1.3" type="text/javascript"> document.writeln(timestamp(new Date(2009,4,14,0,48,0), dfrm, tfrm, 0, 0, 0, 0)); </script><hr /> </font> <font size="2" face="Verdana, Arial"> Is it me or does the roof look low to you?<br />Explains why Ive only seen the vert <br /> </font> </td></tr> <tr bgcolor="#dedfdf"> <td valign="top" width="18%"> <font size="2" face="Verdana, Arial"> <b>66coupe</b> <br /><small>Member # 8549</small> </font></td> <td width="82%"> <font size="1" face="Verdana, Arial"> <img src="https://californiafords.com/ubb/posticon.gif" border="0" alt=" - " /> posted <script language="JavaScript1.3" type="text/javascript"> document.writeln(timestamp(new Date(2009,4,14,2,56,0), dfrm, tfrm, 0, 0, 0, 0)); </script><hr /> </font> <font size="2" face="Verdana, Arial"> ya i just think the challenger is way to heavy... its the slowest out of the 3. i believe it ran a 13.8 or 13.9 with 425 horsepower. but i do think they did a great job on the body and matching it to the early model challenger. thats why its like 70 grand at the dealerships tho <img border="0" title="" alt="[Eek!]" src="eek.gif" /><br /> <br /> <small>[ May 14, 2009, 03:24 AM: Message edited by: 66coupe ]</small> <br /> </font> </td></tr> <tr bgcolor="#f7f7f7"> <td valign="top" width="18%"> <font size="2" face="Verdana, Arial"> <b>Norcal95050</b> <br /><small>Member # 2941</small> </font></td> <td width="82%"> <font size="1" face="Verdana, Arial"> <img src="https://californiafords.com/ubb/posticon.gif" border="0" alt=" - " /> posted <script language="JavaScript1.3" type="text/javascript"> document.writeln(timestamp(new Date(2009,4,14,4,37,0), dfrm, tfrm, 0, 0, 0, 0)); </script><hr /> </font> <font size="2" face="Verdana, Arial"> </font><blockquote><font size="1" face="Verdana, Arial">quote:</font><hr /><font size="2" face="Verdana, Arial">Originally posted by slowback67:<br /><strong> Is it me or does the roof look low to you?<br />Explains why Ive only seen the vert </strong></font><hr /></blockquote><font size="2" face="Verdana, Arial">If you have ever been in a recent GM sports coupe you would know that they have Huge ass long doors and you sit way low inside. <br /> </font> </td></tr> <tr bgcolor="#dedfdf"> <td valign="top" width="18%"> <font size="2" face="Verdana, Arial"> <b>slowback67</b> <br /><small>Member # 6348</small> </font></td> <td width="82%"> <font size="1" face="Verdana, Arial"> <img src="https://californiafords.com/ubb/posticon.gif" border="0" alt=" - " /> posted <script language="JavaScript1.3" type="text/javascript"> document.writeln(timestamp(new Date(2009,4,14,14,56,0), dfrm, tfrm, 0, 0, 0, 0)); </script><hr /> </font> <font size="2" face="Verdana, Arial"> </font><blockquote><font size="1" face="Verdana, Arial">quote:</font><hr /><font size="2" face="Verdana, Arial">Originally posted by Norcal95050:<br /><strong> </font><blockquote><font size="1" face="Verdana, Arial">quote:</font><hr /><font size="2" face="Verdana, Arial">Originally posted by slowback67:<br /><strong> Is it me or does the roof look low to you?<br />Explains why Ive only seen the vert </strong></font><hr /></blockquote><font size="2" face="Verdana, Arial">If you have ever been in a recent GM sports coupe you would know that they have Huge ass long doors and you sit way low inside. </strong></font><hr /></blockquote><font size="2" face="Verdana, Arial">But as far as it looks on the outside.... It looks like a choped top IMO <img border="0" title="" alt="[Smile]" src="smile.gif" /> <br /> </font> </td></tr> <tr bgcolor="#f7f7f7"> <td valign="top" width="18%"> <font size="2" face="Verdana, Arial"> <b>Scoobysnack</b> <br /><small>Member # 6721</small> </font></td> <td width="82%"> <font size="1" face="Verdana, Arial"> <img src="https://californiafords.com/ubb/posticon.gif" border="0" alt=" - " /> posted <script language="JavaScript1.3" type="text/javascript"> document.writeln(timestamp(new Date(2009,4,14,15,7,0), dfrm, tfrm, 0, 0, 0, 0)); </script><hr /> </font> <font size="2" face="Verdana, Arial"> Here's a video of Jay Leno test driving the car. <br /><a href="http://www.jaylenosgarage.com/video/video_player.shtml?vid=1100101" target="_blank">http://www.jaylenosgarage.com/video/video_player.shtml?vid=1100101</a> <br /> </font> </td></tr> <tr bgcolor="#dedfdf"> <td valign="top" width="18%"> <font size="2" face="Verdana, Arial"> <b>88DroptopGT</b> <br /><small>Member # 2535</small> </font></td> <td width="82%"> <font size="1" face="Verdana, Arial"> <img src="https://californiafords.com/ubb/posticon.gif" border="0" alt=" - " /> posted <script language="JavaScript1.3" type="text/javascript"> document.writeln(timestamp(new Date(2009,4,15,0,32,0), dfrm, tfrm, 0, 0, 0, 0)); </script><hr /> </font> <font size="2" face="Verdana, Arial"> Leno said that cars like the Camaro sell on "passion" but with the economy it will be hard to squeeze the bucks for a brand-new vehicle with a $15k markup.<br /><br />While I can't say I like everything about this car I hope it saves GM and the millions of people that would be affected by their downfall. <br /> </font> </td></tr> <tr bgcolor="#f7f7f7"> <td valign="top" width="18%"> <font size="2" face="Verdana, Arial"> <b>MikeD.</b> <br /><small>Member # 8060</small> </font></td> <td width="82%"> <font size="1" face="Verdana, Arial"> <img src="https://californiafords.com/ubb/posticon.gif" border="0" alt=" - " /> posted <script language="JavaScript1.3" type="text/javascript"> document.writeln(timestamp(new Date(2009,4,15,0,40,0), dfrm, tfrm, 0, 0, 0, 0)); </script><hr /> </font> <font size="2" face="Verdana, Arial"> I have this feeling the 2010 style stangs are going to be like a 72, its kinda cool, a little different, but not as wanted as the earlier models. The Cameros are cool though. I heard they wont be releasing v8's anytime soon though. <br /> </font> </td></tr> <tr bgcolor="#dedfdf"> <td valign="top" width="18%"> <font size="2" face="Verdana, Arial"> <b>NavidR</b> <br /><small>Member # 3164</small> </font></td> <td width="82%"> <font size="1" face="Verdana, Arial"> <img src="https://californiafords.com/ubb/posticon.gif" border="0" alt=" - " /> posted <script language="JavaScript1.3" type="text/javascript"> document.writeln(timestamp(new Date(2009,4,15,0,42,0), dfrm, tfrm, 0, 0, 0, 0)); </script><hr /> </font> <font size="2" face="Verdana, Arial"> I'll say it again, man I love the new camaro! <img border="0" alt="[Whoo Whooooo!]" title="" src="graemlins/woowoo.gif" /> <br /> </font> </td></tr> <tr bgcolor="#f7f7f7"> <td valign="top" width="18%"> <font size="2" face="Verdana, Arial"> <b>Raydub</b> <br /><small>Member # 9028</small> </font></td> <td width="82%"> <font size="1" face="Verdana, Arial"> <img src="https://californiafords.com/ubb/posticon.gif" border="0" alt=" - " /> posted <script language="JavaScript1.3" type="text/javascript"> document.writeln(timestamp(new Date(2009,4,15,23,9,0), dfrm, tfrm, 0, 0, 0, 0)); </script><hr /> </font> <font size="2" face="Verdana, Arial"> Here's the video where they compare the Challenger, the new maro and the 2010 gt.. check it out.. <br /><br /><a href="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=r-uTjaQ6E7g" target="_blank">http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=r-uTjaQ6E7g</a> <br /> </font> </td></tr> <tr bgcolor="#dedfdf"> <td valign="top" width="18%"> <font size="2" face="Verdana, Arial"> <b>Adam5.0</b> <br /><small>Member # 6995</small> </font></td> <td width="82%"> <font size="1" face="Verdana, Arial"> <img src="https://californiafords.com/ubb/posticon.gif" border="0" alt=" - " /> posted <script language="JavaScript1.3" type="text/javascript"> document.writeln(timestamp(new Date(2009,4,15,23,20,0), dfrm, tfrm, 0, 0, 0, 0)); </script><hr /> </font> <font size="2" face="Verdana, Arial"> the reason mustang always out sells a camaro is because they are cheap. thats what most people look for. a little less power for a better price. <br /> </font> </td></tr> <tr bgcolor="#f7f7f7"> <td valign="top" width="18%"> <font size="2" face="Verdana, Arial"> <b>slowback67</b> <br /><small>Member # 6348</small> </font></td> <td width="82%"> <font size="1" face="Verdana, Arial"> <img src="https://californiafords.com/ubb/posticon.gif" border="0" alt=" - " /> posted <script language="JavaScript1.3" type="text/javascript"> document.writeln(timestamp(new Date(2009,4,15,23,29,0), dfrm, tfrm, 0, 0, 0, 0)); </script><hr /> </font> <font size="2" face="Verdana, Arial"> </font><blockquote><font size="1" face="Verdana, Arial">quote:</font><hr /><font size="2" face="Verdana, Arial">Originally posted by Raydub:<br /><strong> Here's the video where they compare the Challenger, the new maro and the 2010 gt.. check it out.. <br /><br /> <a href="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=r-uTjaQ6E7g" target="_blank">http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=r-uTjaQ6E7g</a> </strong></font><hr /></blockquote><font size="2" face="Verdana, Arial">Love how they compare an rt ( not srt8 ) to the SS and a reg. GT..... They did everything they could to stack the deck for the SS. Forget price compare a gt500, srt8 and SS and see what comes out on top.(just my .02) <br /> </font> </td></tr> <tr bgcolor="#dedfdf"> <td valign="top" width="18%"> <font size="2" face="Verdana, Arial"> <b>66coupe</b> <br /><small>Member # 8549</small> </font></td> <td width="82%"> <font size="1" face="Verdana, Arial"> <img src="https://californiafords.com/ubb/posticon.gif" border="0" alt=" - " /> posted <script language="JavaScript1.3" type="text/javascript"> document.writeln(timestamp(new Date(2009,4,15,23,49,0), dfrm, tfrm, 0, 0, 0, 0)); </script><hr /> </font> <font size="2" face="Verdana, Arial"> ya and they are producing the v8 now <br /> </font> </td></tr> </table></td></tr></table> <br /> <br />
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