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[BREAKING NEWS]: Student shot with Taser by UCPD officers
Incident occured around 11:30 p.m. in the Powell Library CLICC computer lab

UCPD officers shot a student several times with a Taser inside the Powell Library CLICC computer lab late Tuesday night before taking him into custody.

No university police officers were available to comment further about the incident as of 3 a.m. Wednesday, and no Community Service Officers who were on duty at the time could be reached.

At around 11:30 p.m., CSOs asked a male student using a computer in the back of the room to leave when he was unable to produce a BruinCard during a random check. The student did not exit the building immediately.

The CSOs left, returning minutes later, and police officers arrived to escort the student out. By this time the student had begun to walk toward the door with his backpack when an officer approached him and grabbed his arm, at which point the student told the officer to let him go. A second officer then approached the student as well.

The student began to yell "get off me," repeating himself several times.

It was at this point that the officers shot the student with a Taser for the first time, causing him to fall to the floor and cry out in pain. The student also told the officers he had a medical condition.

UCPD officers confirmed that the man involved in the incident was a student, but did not give a name or any additional information about his identity.

Video shot from a student's camera phone captured the student yelling, "Here's your Patriot Act, here's your fucking abuse of power," while he struggled with the officers.

As the student was screaming, UCPD officers repeatedly told him to stand up and said "stop fighting us." The student did not stand up as the officers requested and they shot him with the Taser at least once more.

"It was the most disgusting and vile act I had ever seen in my life," said David Remesnitsky, a 2006 UCLA alumnus who witnessed the incident.

As the student and the officers were struggling, bystanders repeatedly asked the police officers to stop, and at one point officers told the gathered crowd to stand back and threatened to use a Taser on anyone who got too close.

Laila Gordy, a fourth-year economics student who was present in the library during the incident, said police officers threatened to shoot her with a Taser when she asked an officer for his name and his badge number.

Gordy was visibly upset by the incident and said other students were also disturbed.

"It's a shock that something like this can happen at UCLA," she said. "It was unnecessary what they did."

Immediately after the incident, several students began to contact local news outlets, informing them of the incident, and Remesnitsky wrote an e-mail to Interim Chancellor Norman Abrams.

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http://www.nbc4.tv/news/10325914/detail.html


LOS ANGELES -- A 23-year-old student was administered multiple stun gun shocks by UCLA Police Department officers in the Powell Library computer lab, it was reported Wednesday.
Video shot from another student's camera phone shows the man screaming while on the floor of the computer lab as officers used the stun gun on him at 11:30 p.m. Tuesday, according to the Daily Bruin.

He had been working at a computer in the back of the lab and had failed to produce a student ID during a random check performed by community service officers, the newspaper reported.

According to a UCLA police sergeant, the student was identified as Mostafa Tabatabainejad of Los Angeles.

He was given a citation for obstruction/delay of a peace officer in the performance of duty and then released from custody, the sergeant said.

The sergeant said he saw Tabatabainejad after it happened and that he did not appear to have suffered serious injury.

"If he was able to walk out of here, I think he was OK," the sergeant said.

Officers were escorting Tabatabainejad out of the computer lab when the trouble started, according to the Daily Bruin. One of the officers placed a hand on one of his arms, to which the student objected.

As a second officer approached, he repeatedly yelled "get off of me," the newspaper reported.

It was then that one of the officers shot Tabatabainejad with a stun gun, dropping him to the floor as he cried out, according to the newspaper.

"Any student who witnessed it was left with an image you don't want to remember," said a witness who asked not to be identified.

When asked whether the student resisted when officer attempted to escort him from the building, the witness said, "In the beginning, no. But when they were holding onto him and they were on the ground, he was trying to just break free. He was saying, 'I'm leaving, I'm leaving.' It was so disturbing to watch that I cannot be concise on that. I can just say that he was willing to leave. He had his backpack on his shoulder and he was walking out when the cops approached him. It was unnecessary."

The video shows the student shouting, "Here's your Patriot Act, here's your f---ing abuse of power," the newspaper reported.

Officers told Tabatabainejad to stand up and stop struggling, which he allegedly refused to do. He was then struck with the stun gun at least once more and taken into custody, the newspaper reported

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Originally posted by WRS92GT:
Well I'm going against the grain on this one with some of your opinions.

First off nobody here bare witness to the event so none of us are experts.

Second I saw at no time or read at no time did any UCLA PD officer inform the student that he was "under arrest" Obstructing a peace officer in their duties is totally different than resisting arrest.

When an officer is asked for his name and ID number they must comply as long as the situation is stable. If an officer refuses to give the requested information to the person requesting it the person should immediately request a patrol sergeant or watch commander to the scene (which will piss the officer off royally and piss his supe off even more for having to ditch his coffee and desk job playing solitare).

Was the student in the right? Yes and no. If he was complying by leaving the library building I fail to understand the issue. If the student forgot his UCLA ID card that's a simple mistake that ANY one of us could do on any given day with our drivers licenses or any other ID card.

I think that tasering someone repeatedly is bullshit unless the person is becoming violent and making threatening gestures towards an officer/s. In most likelyhood the officers were racially profiling the student due to his ethnicity.


And for the record I'm caucasian and a former Sac County Sheriff Recruit and this type of incident makes me want to puke. Fucking campus cops have nothing better to do with their time since they couldn't get hired with real city agencies.

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Originally posted by 1968_Fastback:
He got what he deserved, he was resisting arrest and trying to start a riot.

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i have lost the little respect i had for you dana..ur a sadly misinformed and military minded (fill in the blank)....

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Originally posted by WRS92GT:
Well I'm going against the grain on this one with some of your opinions.

First off nobody here bare witness to the event so none of us are experts.

Second I saw at no time or read at no time did any UCLA PD officer inform the student that he was "under arrest" Obstructing a peace officer in their duties is totally different than resisting arrest.

When an officer is asked for his name and ID number they must comply as long as the situation is stable. If an officer refuses to give the requested information to the person requesting it the person should immediately request a patrol sergeant or watch commander to the scene (which will piss the officer off royally and piss his supe off even more for having to ditch his coffee and desk job playing solitare).

Was the student in the right? Yes and no. If he was complying by leaving the library building I fail to understand the issue. If the student forgot his UCLA ID card that's a simple mistake that ANY one of us could do on any given day with our drivers licenses or any other ID card.

I think that tasering someone repeatedly is bullshit unless the person is becoming violent and making threatening gestures towards an officer/s. In most likelyhood the officers were racially profiling the student due to his ethnicity.


And for the record I'm caucasian and a former Sac County Sheriff Recruit and this type of incident makes me want to puke. Fucking campus cops have nothing better to do with their time since they couldn't get hired with real city agencies.

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Originally posted by DLo:
If the 3 officers had hog tied him and jumped him, then he would have reversed his argument around and called them out on using excessive force anyway. But like said before, we don't know the entire story. The video doesn't show the entire deal. You ever watch that Martin Lawrence movie called National Security? That could very well be the case here, and it also might not.

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I think theres a difference in that was a movie and this is real life,, hello there was a shitload of witnesses, and you cannot comnpare hogtieing someone to tazzing them with 50,000 fukin volts.. try sticking ur finger in the electrical outlet,, thats only 10k to give you a ball park

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Originally posted by SF89lx:
okay,, so if u watch the video,,ur telling me that 3 grown big ass officers dont have the manpower to lift someone off the ground, hog tie, and take them out the building, so they have to resort to tazing someone repeatedly to get them to comply... im sorry, that is just x 1,00000,0000000,000

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P.S. i lost all respect for you a long time ago so i don't really care if you lost respect for me.

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okay,, so if u watch the video,,ur telling me that 3 grown big ass officers dont have the manpower to lift someone off the ground, hog tie, and take them out the building, so they have to resort to tazing someone repeatedly to get them to comply... im sorry, that is just x 1,00000,0000000,000

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You don't know anything about police officers. its safer for the police officer to tase a suspect thats acting out than trying to take him to the ground.

P.S. i lost all respect for you a long time ago so i don't really care if you lost respect for me.

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oh and u do?? this may sound ignorant, but i've seen enough cops episodes to know when a cop should use a tazzer or not..this guy didnt deserve to get repeatedly tazzed

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P.S. i lost all respect for you a long time ago so i don't really care if you lost respect for me.

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If the 3 officers had hog tied him and jumped him, then he would have reversed his argument around and called them out on using excessive force anyway. But like said before, we don't know the entire story. The video doesn't show the entire deal. You ever watch that Martin Lawrence movie called National Security? That could very well be the case here, and it also might not.

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I think theres a difference in that was a movie and this is real life,, hello there was a shitload of witnesses, and you cannot comnpare hogtieing someone to tazzing them with 50,000 fukin volts.. try sticking ur finger in the electrical outlet,, thats only 10k to give you a ball park

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okay,, so if u watch the video,,ur telling me that 3 grown big ass officers dont have the manpower to lift someone off the ground, hog tie, and take them out the building, so they have to resort to tazing someone repeatedly to get them to comply... im sorry, that is just x 1,00000,0000000,000

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You don't know anything about police officers. its safer for the police officer to tase a suspect thats acting out than trying to take him to the ground.

P.S. i lost all respect for you a long time ago so i don't really care if you lost respect for me.

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oh and u do?? this may sound ignorant, but i've seen enough cops episodes to know when a cop should use a tazzer or not..this guy didnt deserve to get repeatedly tazzed

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Originally posted by SF89lx:
okay,, so if u watch the video,,ur telling me that 3 grown big ass officers dont have the manpower to lift someone off the ground, hog tie, and take them out the building, so they have to resort to tazing someone repeatedly to get them to comply... im sorry, that is just x 1,00000,0000000,000

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You don't know anything about police officers. its safer for the police officer to tase a suspect thats acting out than trying to take him to the ground.

P.S. i lost all respect for you a long time ago so i don't really care if you lost respect for me.

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oh and u do?? this may sound ignorant, but i've seen enough cops episodes to know when a cop should use a tazzer or not..this guy didnt deserve to get repeatedly tazzed

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If you watched Cops like you said you have you would noticed the police tase someone repeatedly until they start doing what the officer is telling them to do. Yelling out your political views wasn't what the police officer asked him to do so he got what he deserved. The cops did everything by the book the only reason why this is in the news is because its some weirdo from UCLA who yelled out his political views.

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the point is he was not struggling or fighting the police,, he simply didnt want to get up,, or he was simply still hurting to much from the shock to be able to get up, besides,, he was already in handcuffs,, they usually only taze people when they need to control them and get them in cuffs,, not when there in cuffs already

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Well I'm going against the grain on this one with some of your opinions.

First off nobody here bare witness to the event so none of us are experts.

Second I saw at no time or read at no time did any UCLA PD officer inform the student that he was "under arrest" Obstructing a peace officer in their duties is totally different than resisting arrest.

When an officer is asked for his name and ID number they must comply as long as the situation is stable. If an officer refuses to give the requested information to the person requesting it the person should immediately request a patrol sergeant or watch commander to the scene (which will piss the officer off royally and piss his supe off even more for having to ditch his coffee and desk job playing solitare).

Was the student in the right? Yes and no. If he was complying by leaving the library building I fail to understand the issue. If the student forgot his UCLA ID card that's a simple mistake that ANY one of us could do on any given day with our drivers licenses or any other ID card.

I think that tasering someone repeatedly is bullshit unless the person is becoming violent and making threatening gestures towards an officer/s. In most likelyhood the officers were racially profiling the student due to his ethnicity.


And for the record I'm caucasian and a former Sac County Sheriff Recruit and this type of incident makes me want to puke. Fucking campus cops have nothing better to do with their time since they couldn't get hired with real city agencies.

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Originally posted by SF89lx:
okay,, so if u watch the video,,ur telling me that 3 grown big ass officers dont have the manpower to lift someone off the ground, hog tie, and take them out the building, so they have to resort to tazing someone repeatedly to get them to comply... im sorry, that is just x 1,00000,0000000,000

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You don't know anything about police officers. its safer for the police officer to tase a suspect thats acting out than trying to take him to the ground.

P.S. i lost all respect for you a long time ago so i don't really care if you lost respect for me.

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oh and u do?? this may sound ignorant, but i've seen enough cops episodes to know when a cop should use a tazzer or not..this guy didnt deserve to get repeatedly tazzed

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If you watched Cops like you said you have you would noticed the police tase someone repeatedly until they start doing what the officer is telling them to do. Yelling out your political views wasn't what the police officer asked him to do so he got what he deserved. The cops did everything by the book the only reason why this is in the news is because its some weirdo from UCLA who yelled out his political views.

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the point is he was not struggling or fighting the police,, he simply didnt want to get up,, or he was simply still hurting to much from the shock to be able to get up, besides,, he was already in handcuffs,, they usually only taze people when they need to control them and get them in cuffs,, not when there in cuffs already

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you obviously haven't read any of the news reports, he wasan't in cuffs until he finally cooperated

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Originally posted by WRS92GT:
Well I'm going against the grain on this one with some of your opinions.

First off nobody here bare witness to the event so none of us are experts.

Second I saw at no time or read at no time did any UCLA PD officer inform the student that he was "under arrest" Obstructing a peace officer in their duties is totally different than resisting arrest.

When an officer is asked for his name and ID number they must comply as long as the situation is stable. If an officer refuses to give the requested information to the person requesting it the person should immediately request a patrol sergeant or watch commander to the scene (which will piss the officer off royally and piss his supe off even more for having to ditch his coffee and desk job playing solitare).

Was the student in the right? Yes and no. If he was complying by leaving the library building I fail to understand the issue. If the student forgot his UCLA ID card that's a simple mistake that ANY one of us could do on any given day with our drivers licenses or any other ID card.

I think that tasering someone repeatedly is bullshit unless the person is becoming violent and making threatening gestures towards an officer/s. In most likelyhood the officers were racially profiling the student due to his ethnicity.


And for the record I'm caucasian and a former Sac County Sheriff Recruit and this type of incident makes me want to puke. Fucking campus cops have nothing better to do with their time since they couldn't get hired with real city agencies.

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Campus Cops are CHP officers.

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Unless UCLA has a contract with CHP to provide law enforcement that's a crock of shit. CSU and UC police departments are totally separate from the California Highway Patrol. CHP provides security for the Governor & state government officials, State Capitol, state government buildings aside from traffic safety and investigations. If you care to debate this please do so. Our information comes from 4 family members whom are CHP officers.


The bottom line is the library attendant called for campus police assistance and when the officers showed up they should have immediately asked the student in question to leave. They would not have placed him under arrest for being in the library without proper ID. If the student refused to leave when asked by an officer then at that point he could have been placed under arrest and detained.

Honestly though you do the math Dana. 3 fully grown men with firearms, OC spray, hand cuffs, batons and tasers couldn't physically escort a young adult male out of the library? They must not be THAT well trained to not be able to do something as simple as escorting someone away from a library.


Granted also the kid was probably your typical pussy looking for an excuse to exploit the Patriot Act and racial profiling but if you all look at the grander scheme of things it boils down to one thing............................

The person in question IS actually a student and misplaced his ID. He should have been allowed to retrieve his ID from where ever it was and return to the library at that point.

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