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Posted by MauriSSio (Member # 9943) on :
 
long story short, did 496rwhp@5900rpm through a c6 and 9inch but was very very lean (14.8afr). so they let me go home and get my jets. jetted up 2 and made 512rwhp@6200rpm and WAY (like 80+rwtq in some areas and +25-35rwhp)more power throughout the band but still very lean at 14.4afr. i ran outta time but did a third run and will make a post for that separately. Not bad for an N/A engine though obviously theres still way more power in this when i get all the kinks out of it. ill post a pic a lil later

[ March 08, 2011, 07:05 PM: Message edited by: MauriSSio ]
 
Posted by wilit (Member # 3367) on :
 
Wow. What's your combo? Stock GT40's with an e-cam? [Razz]
 
Posted by MauriSSio (Member # 9943) on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by wilit:
Wow. What's your combo? Stock GT40's with an e-cam? [Razz]

of course not......x cam....get it right! jk

its a 533BBF with a street roller (solid) and tfs street heads.

[ March 08, 2011, 08:51 PM: Message edited by: MauriSSio ]
 
Posted by MauriSSio (Member # 9943) on :
 
i wasnt disappointed with the numbers themselves but more with knowing that i probably wont know the final numbers for a while. Im gonna throw a couple jet sizes larger and drive it like that. On engine dynos, this setup usually makes over 660hp (closer to 700) but im not even sure i believe engine dynos as much as RWHP, although this drivetrain (c6 + 9inch and full size driveshaft) is probably the least efficient ever made in the history of automobiles LOL!!!!!...at least its cheap and durable though...
 
Posted by poisonpony96 (Member # 3942) on :
 
not a bad start!
 
Posted by MauriSSio (Member # 9943) on :
 
heres a vid of the car on the dyno
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fzDx1J813gc

[ March 08, 2011, 09:13 PM: Message edited by: MauriSSio ]
 
Posted by MauriSSio (Member # 9943) on :
 
LOL and a pic.
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not sure if this dyno is stingy or if the pullied cobra before me was down on power but an 03cobra with pulley and couple mods put down 426rwhp right before i went
 
Posted by wilit (Member # 3367) on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by MauriSSio:
i wasnt disappointed with the numbers themselves but more with knowing that i probably wont know the final numbers for a while. Im gonna throw a couple jet sizes larger and drive it like that. On engine dynos, this setup usually makes over 660hp (closer to 700) but im not even sure i believe engine dynos as much as RWHP, although this drivetrain (c6 + 9inch and full size driveshaft) is probably the least efficient ever made in the history of automobiles LOL!!!!!...at least its cheap and durable though...

If you figure in a 25% driveline loss, you're looking at 640hp at the crank. I know the C6 and 9 inch eat up a lot of power, so it may even be closer to 30%. Plus it sounds like you still have some power left to find with the right AFR. Pretty awesome setup you have.
 
Posted by MauriSSio (Member # 9943) on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by wilit:
quote:
Originally posted by MauriSSio:
i wasnt disappointed with the numbers themselves but more with knowing that i probably wont know the final numbers for a while. Im gonna throw a couple jet sizes larger and drive it like that. On engine dynos, this setup usually makes over 660hp (closer to 700) but im not even sure i believe engine dynos as much as RWHP, although this drivetrain (c6 + 9inch and full size driveshaft) is probably the least efficient ever made in the history of automobiles LOL!!!!!...at least its cheap and durable though...

If you figure in a 25% driveline loss, you're looking at 640hp at the crank. I know the C6 and 9 inch eat up a lot of power, so it may even be closer to 30%. Plus it sounds like you still have some power left to find with the right AFR. Pretty awesome setup you have.
thanks for the comments! most people dont really understand the losses you take when running a C6 and if my car wasnt so heavy, i wouldnt be running it either. But at least theyre affordable. i think theres still at least 20rwhp there with more fuel.but as it sits now :
if 22% drivetrain loss its making 660hp.
if 25% drivetrain loss its making 680hp
if 30% drivetrain loss its making 730hp

whats funny is all 3 of those numbers are possible with a setup like this.
 
Posted by SydeWaySix (Member # 3596) on :
 
That dyno looks familiar...was this at Gear Head in Hayward? If so, Rick has Mustang Dyno...these are known to put down lower numbers than Dynojets. I think it's because the dyno compensates for weight of the vehicle and road friction, therefore resulting in lower numbers...
 
Posted by 50DADDY (Member # 3076) on :
 
Big block?
 
Posted by HYFLOHDS (Member # 4198) on :
 
whats the bore x stroke and valve size, trying to figure out the VE%?
 
Posted by MauriSSio (Member # 9943) on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by HYFLOHDS:
whats the bore x stroke and valve size, trying to figure out the VE%?

4.44x4.3 intake valve size is 2.20 i believe. exhaust 1.76
 
Posted by MauriSSio (Member # 9943) on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by 50DADDY:
Big block?

yup!
 
Posted by MauriSSio (Member # 9943) on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by SydeWaySix:
That dyno looks familiar...was this at Gear Head in Hayward? If so, Rick has Mustang Dyno...these are known to put down lower numbers than Dynojets. I think it's because the dyno compensates for weight of the vehicle and road friction, therefore resulting in lower numbers...

man i wish these were mustang dyno numbers. It was dynoed at DynoSpot Racing in san jose and they said its a dynojet
 
Posted by HYFLOHDS (Member # 4198) on :
 
Does this look about right? @ 97% VE

533.113 Cubic Inches @ 6500 RPM with 97.0 % Volumetric Efficiency PerCent

Required Intake Flow between
322.4 CFM and 341.6 CFM at 28 Inches

Required Exhaust Flow between
232.1 CFM and 257.9 CFM at 28 Inches

H.P
Lowest Low Average Best
678.8 706.7 720.6 734.6

Peak Torque Lbs-Ft
608.0 633.0 645.5 658.1

HorsePower per CID
1.273 1.326 1.352 1.378
Torque per Cubic Inch
1.141 1.187 1.211 1.234

BMEP in psi
172.0 179.1 182.6 186.1

Carb CFM at 1.5 in Hg.
973 1082 1137 1192
 
Posted by MauriSSio (Member # 9943) on :
 
wow thats pretty cool! It sounds really close, I think these heads supposedly flow a bit more on the intake but less on the exhaust. they average about 345-350cfm on the intake i think and i think maybe 220cfm on the exhaust without a pipe.at least thats what ive seen. my heads are also port matched to the intake but i dont think that adds much to the flow rates.
 
Posted by MauriSSio (Member # 9943) on :
 
update. Ijetted WAY up to 93/99 with power valve still in the primaries and this thing feels a LOT stronger. AFR's are now down to 13.2@ WOT. car drives like ass at part throttle now though so looks like in gonna have to modify some shit.

[ March 14, 2011, 04:12 PM: Message edited by: MauriSSio ]
 
Posted by wilit (Member # 3367) on :
 
What size carb are you running?
 
Posted by MauriSSio (Member # 9943) on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by wilit:
What size carb are you running?

1150cfm holley dominator
 
Posted by MauriSSio (Member # 9943) on :
 
just an update. I went back to 84 jets in the front and drilled the powervalve channels a bit and now AF ratios are down to 13.2-13.5. Car drives like a beast now!!
 




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