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Originally posted by Glenn:
now you have to worry about piston to valve clearance on your heads. that is a pretty big cam too for a 302 combo without a power adder.

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Originally posted by ranger guy:
planning on whole upper end. trickflow heads,track heat intake ect.

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any plans on a power adder in the future? I think that is too much of a cam.
 

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Posted by ranger guy (Member # 4899) on :
 
maye a little nitrous. whats a decent cam with the mods i wanna do?
 

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Posted by F8LSN8K (Member # 7080) on :
 
x cam with 1.6 rr will do fine with ur set up. especially if u are adding a bit of juice.
 

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Posted by Glenn (Member # 520) on :
 
I think the TFS stage 1 cam should be good, or an E-Cam, or check out compcams extreme energy cams, like the XE270HR
 

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Posted by F8LSN8K (Member # 7080) on :
 
ya tfs1 is coo. but also nothin wrong with the x, or maybe even a F cam. comp/crane are too much money and pretty much kinda do the same shit. E cam, i have it and its ok, but as soon as i get the money ima switch to a F cam
 

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Posted by Glenn (Member # 520) on :
 
With the lift of the x-cam, you now have to worry about the valve springs on the heads being able to handle the .542* lift.
 

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Posted by F8LSN8K (Member # 7080) on :
 
no matter what cam, u need to change the springs......
 

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Posted by JohnB (Member # 969) on :
 

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Originally posted by F8LSN8K:
no matter what cam, u need to change the springs......

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Why?

A X-cam on a stock bottom end is overkill. Match that with the heads and intake, it'll run...but the cam will need to be retarded so much it'll run outta steam by 5700.

Bigger isn't always better.
 

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Posted by F8LSN8K (Member # 7080) on :
 

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Originally posted by F8LSN8K:
no matter what cam, u need to change the springs......

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Why?

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Originally posted by F8LSN8K:
well, i know u dont REALLY need to on small cams, but it is a good idea when do a cam install. along with timing chain set, lifters, yadda yadda yadda.

on the cam, well u owned me. lol

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[ September 24, 2007, 11:24 PM: Message edited by: Glenn ]
 

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Posted by ranger guy (Member # 4899) on :
 
so? f-cam? my buddie is telling me to run the x or the b-cam with 1.7's? im not sure.
 

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Posted by GriggsJ (Member # 6319) on :
 
Run the B-cam with the 1.7rr that way the valves won't slap the pistons. The car will haul, regardless. You said you were running Trickflows right? I was running 17rr/trickflows/edelbrock intake/ and all the supporting mods. Car pulled hard, was a good daily driver. Never overheated, and the idle wasn't that lumpy. 93Pony recomended that cam with those rockers, it's a proven combo.
 

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Posted by 93PONY (Member # 60) on :
 
B cam1.7's = X cam with 1.6's
Pretty much the same as far as the motor is concerned.

Either way, you can't go wrong. Great bang-for-the-buck camshafts.

With TFS heads you'll have more P2V clearance than a standard 20 degree inline head, however you'll still want to check. I would recomend retarding the camshaft 4 degrees from 'as ground'. It will idle better, make more low/midrange & pull hard up top.
 

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Posted by ranger guy (Member # 4899) on :
 
my buddy has a set of gt40p heads,the cast iron ones. i can get them for damn near free is there a noticable gain from those heads and would it work with the b-cam and 1.7's with the stock bottom end or should i just wait another 2 weeks for the trick flows?
 

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Posted by warhorse58gt (Member # 7702) on :
 

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planning on whole upper end. trickflow heads,track heat intake ect.

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my buddy has a set of gt40p heads,the cast iron ones. i can get them for damn near free is there a noticable gain from those heads and would it work with the b-cam and 1.7's with the stock bottom end or should i just wait another 2 weeks for the trick flows?

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just wait. and why trick flows? i would personally go with the 165 afr heads, trick flow or edelbrock performer intake, and a f303 cam. ur shit will PULL!

thats same set up i wanna do, but im keeping my cobra intake just because.
 

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Posted by ranger guy (Member # 4899) on :
 
well my buddy swears by the trick flows, there cheap and they perform
 

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Posted by F8LSN8K (Member # 7080) on :
 
dont get me wrong they are good, but for the extra $100-$200 for the afr's. it is well worth it. but thats on u.
 

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Posted by ranger guy (Member # 4899) on :
 
so afr 165's
 

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Posted by ranger guy (Member # 4899) on :
 
and im also tryin to figure out a little problem, the car doesnt want to idle, it idles and runs rough around 500 and if i unplug the maf the roughness goes away and it idles fine,im thinkin that the maf is making the car run lean maybe?
 

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Posted by F8LSN8K (Member # 7080) on :
 

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so afr 165's

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yes
 

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Posted by F8LSN8K (Member # 7080) on :
 

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and im also tryin to figure out a little problem, the car doesnt want to idle, it idles and runs rough around 500 and if i unplug the maf the roughness goes away and it idles fine,im thinkin that the maf is making the car run lean maybe?

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