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Posted by Red00GT (Member # 5653) on :
 
ok put in the new starter...new 02 sensors. and...


NOTHING! still only get..click, click, click...wont turn over!

what the fuck is seriously wrong? [Mad]
 
Posted by hidnn.o.s. (Member # 1219) on :
 
Battery or starter solenoid [patriot]
 
Posted by Red00GT (Member # 5653) on :
 
everything light, cd player, everything works inside car and electrical outside. i just bought this starter today..brand fuckin new!

and then..just to see if the old starter worked..i tested it..and it still worked??!?

(tested meaning...put cables to the batt, and then to to the starter....it spinned fine)

so what the hell? its a brand new battery too! could it be the alt?
 
Posted by silverLX (Member # 3207) on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by hidnn.o.s.:
starter solenoid [patriot]

 
Posted by Red00GT (Member # 5653) on :
 
i dont see how its the solenoid. when its brand new?
 
Posted by NO MANRZ (Member # 566) on :
 
Good luck getting help with a topic title like that.
 
Posted by silverLX (Member # 3207) on :
 
I think that after all the problems you have had with the car, you should take it to a shop. Too many people have worked on the car, not knowing what they were doing. Correct me if I am wrong.
 
Posted by Red00GT (Member # 5653) on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by silverLX:
I think that after all the problems you have had with the car, you should take it to a shop. Too many people have worked on the car, not knowing what they were doing. Correct me if I am wrong.
[Frown] how would i get it there? it doesnt move [Razz]
 
Posted by silverLX (Member # 3207) on :
 
you should be able to pop start the car, if its a 5 speed.
 
Posted by Red00GT (Member # 5653) on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by NO MANRZ:
Good luck getting help with a topic title like that.
[Roll Eyes]
 
Posted by Red00GT (Member # 5653) on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by silverLX:
you should be able to pop start the car, if its a 5 speed.
guess ill have to do that [Frown]

man this is pissin me off.
 
Posted by 5.0JerM (Member # 5149) on :
 
I'm having the same problem!! I just bought a new starter solonoid and a brand new battery and the motor turns but now the car wont stay running. The car starts and dies out instantly.....FU*K!!!!
 
Posted by silverLX (Member # 3207) on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by 5.0JerM:
I'm having the same problem!! I just bought a new starter solonoid and a brand new battery and the motor turns but now the car wont stay running. The car starts and dies out instantly.....FU*K!!!!
that is a completely different problem.
 
Posted by hidnn.o.s. (Member # 1219) on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by silverLX:
quote:
Originally posted by 5.0JerM:
I'm having the same problem!! I just bought a new starter solonoid and a brand new battery and the motor turns but now the car wont stay running. The car starts and dies out instantly.....FU*K!!!!
that is a completely different problem.
LMFAO [patriot]
 
Posted by 03SVTPower (Member # 518) on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by 5.0JerM:
I'm having the same problem!! I just bought a new starter solonoid and a brand new battery and the motor turns but now the car wont stay running. The car starts and dies out instantly.....FU*K!!!!
Sounds like a fuel related problem...might be fuel filter or fuel pump, try resetting the fuel shut off switch in the trunk [Confused] just throwin some ideas out there.
 
Posted by Joooestang66 (Member # 2828) on :
 
Check fuse #6 (20amp) in the central junction box. If that fuse is cool go to the ignition switch fuse. Its a 40amp in the battery junction box. NOTE: Battery junction box is the fuse box under the hood, the central junction box is the fuse box under the dash. If the ignition switch fuse is ok go to the starter relay in the battery junction box. Pull the relay, swap it out with your a/c relay and see if the car starts. You can also pull the starter relay, look on the back and you'll see the numbers 85, 30, 86 and 87. Use a test light and check for power at the terminals where the relay comes into the BJB, so it'll be the corresponding terminals that the relay plugs into. With the key on and the clutch in you should have 12v at pin 85. You should have 12v at pin 30 at all times. 86 is ground and 87 goes to the starter solenoid on the starter itself. If you dont have power at pin 85 the clutch pedal position switch could be the problem. Disconnect it and jump the two terminals at the clutch pedal position sensor connector. That should be enough to help out.
 
Posted by Red00GT (Member # 5653) on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by Joooestang66:
Check fuse #6 (20amp) in the central junction box. If that fuse is cool go to the ignition switch fuse. Its a 40amp in the battery junction box. NOTE: Battery junction box is the fuse box under the hood, the central junction box is the fuse box under the dash. If the ignition switch fuse is ok go to the starter relay in the battery junction box. Pull the relay, swap it out with your a/c relay and see if the car starts. You can also pull the starter relay, look on the back and you'll see the numbers 85, 30, 86 and 87. Use a test light and check for power at the terminals where the relay comes into the BJB, so it'll be the corresponding terminals that the relay plugs into. With the key on and the clutch in you should have 12v at pin 85. You should have 12v at pin 30 at all times. 86 is ground and 87 goes to the starter solenoid on the starter itself. If you dont have power at pin 85 the clutch pedal position switch could be the problem. Disconnect it and jump the two terminals at the clutch pedal position sensor connector. That should be enough to help out.
[Eek!] im copying and pasting that
 
Posted by 03SVTPower (Member # 518) on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by Red00GT:
quote:
Originally posted by Joooestang66:
Check fuse #6 (20amp) in the central junction box. If that fuse is cool go to the ignition switch fuse. Its a 40amp in the battery junction box. NOTE: Battery junction box is the fuse box under the hood, the central junction box is the fuse box under the dash. If the ignition switch fuse is ok go to the starter relay in the battery junction box. Pull the relay, swap it out with your a/c relay and see if the car starts. You can also pull the starter relay, look on the back and you'll see the numbers 85, 30, 86 and 87. Use a test light and check for power at the terminals where the relay comes into the BJB, so it'll be the corresponding terminals that the relay plugs into. With the key on and the clutch in you should have 12v at pin 85. You should have 12v at pin 30 at all times. 86 is ground and 87 goes to the starter solenoid on the starter itself. If you dont have power at pin 85 the clutch pedal position switch could be the problem. Disconnect it and jump the two terminals at the clutch pedal position sensor connector. That should be enough to help out.
[Eek!] im copying and pasting that
Did you want it in spanish too [Razz]
 
Posted by silverLX (Member # 3207) on :
 
It is not a fuel problem.
 
Posted by Tooth (Member # 4582) on :
 
when a battery has bad cells, can't the electronics still light up? But then it can't pump out enough for something like starting the car? Not sure, but I thought I've heard that..
 
Posted by 95GTConvtACE (Member # 6399) on :
 
How old is that battery? Can you jump start your car or pop the clutch. The main purpose of the battery, atleast this is what I thought, is to start the car. Once the car is started your alternator maintains the electricity in the car. So I am thinking must be Starter or Battery and since you say you have a new starter then must be either connections to battery or battery itself. Just adding my two cents
 
Posted by Red00GT (Member # 5653) on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by 95GTConvtACE:
How old is that battery? Can you jump start your car or pop the clutch. The main purpose of the battery, atleast this is what I thought, is to start the car. Once the car is started your alternator maintains the electricity in the car. So I am thinking must be Starter or Battery and since you say you have a new starter then must be either connections to battery or battery itself. Just adding my two cents
i cant jump the car..i used a battery charger and it still wouldnt crank over. and the battery is also new.
 
Posted by 5.0JerM (Member # 5149) on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by 03SVTPower:
quote:
Originally posted by 5.0JerM:
I'm having the same problem!! I just bought a new starter solonoid and a brand new battery and the motor turns but now the car wont stay running. The car starts and dies out instantly.....FU*K!!!!
Sounds like a fuel related problem...might be fuel filter or fuel pump, try resetting the fuel shut off switch in the trunk [Confused] just throwin some ideas out there.
where in the trunk is it located and how do you do that??
 
Posted by 03SVTPower (Member # 518) on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by 5.0JerM:
quote:
Originally posted by 03SVTPower:
quote:
Originally posted by 5.0JerM:
I'm having the same problem!! I just bought a new starter solonoid and a brand new battery and the motor turns but now the car wont stay running. The car starts and dies out instantly.....FU*K!!!!
Sounds like a fuel related problem...might be fuel filter or fuel pump, try resetting the fuel shut off switch in the trunk [Confused] just throwin some ideas out there.
where in the trunk is it located and how do you do that??
Should be on the rear left side of the trunk. should be able to push it, like a reset button

[ February 13, 2006, 01:05 PM: Message edited by: 03SVTPower ]
 
Posted by 92stangLX (Member # 3252) on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by Red00GT:
everything light, cd player, everything works inside car and electrical outside. i just bought this starter today..brand fuckin new!

and then..just to see if the old starter worked..i tested it..and it still worked??!?

(tested meaning...put cables to the batt, and then to to the starter....it spinned fine)

so what the hell? its a brand new battery too! could it be the alt?
I would check all of your connections especially your grounds. Even if all of you lights and shit work the may not start b/c the starter pulls a lot of current.

If you can't find the bad connection by looking at it then I would get a good book on testing charging and starting systems, a good multimeter, and run through all of the tests.
 
Posted by Red00GT (Member # 5653) on :
 
got it runnin!!!

the ground to the block was HELLA loose. the bolt wasnt tight at all..tightened it up...car started right up!!!

thank GOD!! [patriot]
 
Posted by 95331StrimVert (Member # 6250) on :
 
As my daddy always said "make sure you have clean tight connections". I know it's Johnny come lately here but I just got online... glad your fixed...
 
Posted by 03SVTPower (Member # 518) on :
 
now on to the cruise/meet on Sunday!!! [burnout]
 
Posted by 5.0JerM (Member # 5149) on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by Red00GT:
got it runnin!!!

the ground to the block was HELLA loose. the bolt wasnt tight at all..tightened it up...car started right up!!!

thank GOD!! [patriot]
DAMNIT!! Now I gottah figure out what's wrong with mine....Imma check the ground wire to the block.....where's the wire grounded to??? I tried to follow the wire and I got lost [Frown]
 
Posted by mf150 (Member # 6526) on :
 
Could be ignition control module. did you need to shim your started? make sure that the starter cogs are touching your flywheel/flexplate. Obviously you checked your fuel ctu-off in the trunk...?

[ February 15, 2006, 03:29 AM: Message edited by: mf150 ]
 
Posted by 5.0JerM (Member # 5149) on :
 
I tried doing that reset button thing and I had no luck!! It's wierd....Now the motor turns over but it won't idle when I crank it up....It fires up and dies immediately!!! I'm getting pissed!!! HELP!!!
 




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