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Posted by 99gt-UJSTLST (Member # 584) on :
 
well have some cash to buy a 6 point role cage who should I go though I now I can get MM role cage of course it will be like 400 bucks

what othere opitions are their.
It needs to be legal for a like 10 second pass

also what are the runles if you run 9's
do I have to put a 8 point or 10 point

Thanks guys
 
Posted by Rev Happy (Member # 661) on :
 
Why not get a custom one fabricated? The guy that made your intercooler makes awesome roll cages...(Robert at Fast track Performance) He is out in Socal though... Probably too far... Maybe APEX? Might be expensive though... Sorry not much help here... [burnout]
 
Posted by 99gt-UJSTLST (Member # 584) on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by Rev Happy:
Why not get a custom one fabricated? The guy that made your intercooler makes awesome roll cages...(Robert at Fast track Performance) He is out in Socal though... Probably too far... Maybe APEX? Might be expensive though... Sorry not much help here... [burnout]

well custome? I could go that way but that would be alot of cash and i dont have much cash left
with x-mas just passing and all the money I have already put in the car

apex does not do it

does any one now who will also install a cage

I can do it my self I now and have a muffler shop weld the cage in but want to make sure its done right
 
Posted by VortechSaleen (Member # 316) on :
 
Maeir Racing does nice work w/ custom cages. They would probably install one if you already have it but Im guessing they'll push you hard to get one custom made by them.
 
Posted by chosen1 (Member # 1906) on :
 
[worship] Maier Racing... [worship] they do good shit!
 
Posted by IRISH (Member # 1629) on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by chosen1:
[worship] Maier Racing... [worship] they do good shit!

Hey Bro, Go talk to Joel at Maier Racing! Mike does killer work!

[patriot]
 
Posted by shade-tree (Member # 298) on :
 
If I'm not mistaken the 11.00-11.99 rule is just a 4 point roll bar.

10.00-10.99 requires a full cage around the driver. What a PITA for a street car.

I picked up an autopower 6 point roll bar for a road course application with swingout doorbars. I figure the # of times I'm below 11.00 will be infrequent, and I doubt Sac would notice [Big Grin]

worst case, you can always upgrade your 6 to a cage with a couple of mild steel tube stock.
 
Posted by TRY2PAZ (Member # 97) on :
 
Javier,
Go to Maier racing in Hayward. I think Harold was quoted 1,500 for a custom 6 point.
Did you see there white fox with a custom 6 point they had at our BBQ in NOV? They had low door bars, and it did not effect when you get in and out of the car.
Ask for my cousian Joel. Tell him I sent you.
 
Posted by Yellow94GT (Member # 431) on :
 
You need a 6 point cage to go 11.99 - 10.00

Once you get into the 9's you are required to have a 8 point cage I believe. (Maybe more, not sure)
 
Posted by Quick 88LX (Member # 1950) on :
 
I got my cage from STEEDA. There shit is nice too but hey, a cage is a cage dude...
 
Posted by Blown Mystic (Member # 476) on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by Quick 88LX:
I got my cage from STEEDA. There shit is nice too but hey, a cage is a cage dude...

would you buy a cage from Kragen??? They are there to protect you at the speed this guy will be going.
 
Posted by Jeff S (Member # 371) on :
 
I would recomend a 5 or 6 point roll bar. If designed correctly it will be legal as fast as 10.00 in a hardtop. All of the 6 point roll bars I have seen come out of Maeir Racing would never pass "real" tech at a drag strip. The door bars are too low. You may get away with it at Sac but probably not Sears Point. You should instead have the door bars made at the proper height and have them be swingout/removable.

[ December 29, 2002, 05:12 PM: Message edited by: Jeff S ]
 
Posted by 99gt-UJSTLST (Member # 584) on :
 
yea i was thinking of getting a 6point or 8 point with bolt in doors

something like what john has in his car

but wanted to now what the rules are as far as bolt in doors

thanks for all the info guys
 
Posted by rr_mustang (Member # 888) on :
 
Charis Alstons Chassisworks a nice 8 point cage.
 
Posted by 99gt-UJSTLST (Member # 584) on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by rr_mustang:
Charis Alstons Chassisworks a nice 8 point cage.

wow they sell them for cheap but are they legal is the ?

ill have to call them tomorrow and see what they say
 
Posted by John91coupe (Member # 18) on :
 
First thing is that swing out door bars are legal down to 7.50, so if you want them, get them. Second is save yourself a lot of headache and get a prenotched Wolfe cage. If you want to be legal for 9's you need to get the full cage with forward bars that go through the dash. For 9's you also need to be able to attach your seat to the crossbar which probably means goodbye to your stock seat. The "kicker" bars from the main hoop need to go through the floor and attach directly to the subframe connectors. You also need a window net and an NHRA certification sticker (after NHRA inspection). That's about it.
 
Posted by 1990GT50 (Member # 2119) on :
 
hey i just got a gage from S&W racing for christmas. its an 8pt and i got the swing out bars with it. the tubes are all pre notched and the cages are certified and it only cost 260 for everything shipped and all. the cage alone is $149 so they're not very expensive
 
Posted by yellow67stang (Member # 903) on :
 
If I were considering actually going fast with the cage that you are putting in your car than the swing out sidebar option is legal but not the most safe thing out there. If you look at most race cars, they do not have that option. The structural integrity is defiantly debatable with those "show car bars" in them. In face, if you talk to Chassisworks or Art Morrision they will stray you away from buying that option.

There a lot more things to consider when you are putting a Cage in than just having Billy at the local muffler shop with his 110 volt sears special welder weld you up a cage.

If you really read the rules in the NHRA book you will know that the side bars actually have to be placed according to were you sit. The seat has to tie in to the cage and you have be sitting a certain distance below the top bars of the cage with your helmet on. And the subframes (according to our local NHRA tech) need to be 2 by 2 box frame type material. Before he even came out to look at my car he asked me that question. So, I had to change that because I didn't have that. The quality of welds make a big difference also. If its a Moly cage than it need to be Tig welded. But, mild steel does not.

These are some things that I can remember I had to go through to get my cage certified. You may think that this is all bullshit but being anal about this stuff could possibly save your life or the person you are racing!

Cage material in mild steel is around 300.00 $150 for the window net and setup and another 30.00 for roll bar padding.
Install, around $1000.00 to $1500.00

With only 400 bones I would save my money and do it right the first time!

just my .02
Eric
 
Posted by Quick 88LX (Member # 1950) on :
 
Then you can race anywhere you like... [burnout]
 
Posted by trbo50 (Member # 1671) on :
 
If you're interested in a perfect fitting custom cage call Jim @ 650 464 2452. He does all my fab work in his shop in Belmont. Good luck!

Norman
 
Posted by Mario92 (Member # 381) on :
 
Javier,

You just might want to wait a bit longer and save up some more $$$ for a custom cage. If you need a good reason why take a look at a pic I think Teamsolo posted last year.

 -

Have you contacted these guys yet?

MAGNUMFORCE RACE CAR FABRICATION
1436 White Oaks Rd. #7
Campbell CA. 95008
Telephone - 408-559-6633
FAX - 408-559-5283
MAGNUMFORCE RACE CAR FABRICATION Website
 
Posted by yellow67stang (Member # 903) on :
 
Whatever you do dont go to Magnumforce. You might as well get a cheap cage and put it in yourself with JB weld.
 
Posted by SIR Paint Job (Member # 1708) on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by trbo50:
If you're interested in a perfect fitting custom cage call Jim @ 650 464 2452. He does all my fab work in his shop in Belmont. Good luck!

Norman

hey norman, who is this? what shop? I live in san mateo and i've been trying to figure out where to take my car for a real clean cage installation who actually knows the nhra rules and what will and will not certify.

Thanks for any info,
Chris
 




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