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Posted by Yellow94GT (Member # 431) on :
 
Congrats to Shaun and Heather!

(I'll let them fill in the details later )

Also nice meeting you stoauto. Nice runs!
 

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Posted by twisted54 (Member # 1981) on :
 
Hmmm....I'm feeling a 10 second update.
 

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Posted by 93PONY (Member # 60) on :
 
Yep, we squeezed out a 10 second pass!

3rd run of the day:
1.551 60ft
7.059 @ 98.519 MPH 1/8th
10.985 @ 125.732mph 1/4

Couldn't get better then a 1.54 60ft no matter what I tried.... & now we've been told by 'the man' to have a roll cage installed before we come back.

Also nice running stoauto & awesome runs for the N/A 347 they brought out! Had a blast runnin'em heads up.
 

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Posted by Rob [5LVENOM] (Member # 2282) on :
 
good shit.
 

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Posted by twisted54 (Member # 1981) on :
 

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Originally posted by 93PONY:
Yep, we squeezed out a 10 second pass!

3rd run of the day:
1.551 60ft
7.059 @ 98.519 MPH 1/8th
10.985 @ 125.732mph 1/4

Couldn't get better then a 1.54 60ft no matter what I tried.... & now we've been told by 'the man' to have a roll cage installed before we come back.

Also nice running stoauto & awesome runs for the N/A 347 they brought out! Had a blast runnin'em heads up.

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Awesome times...I'm sure you'll drop it even more shortly. I'm definately jealous.
 

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Posted by Yellow94GT (Member # 431) on :
 
MPH is good.
 

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Posted by CDT (Member # 5004) on :
 
any video of the ford muscle article cars side by side?
 

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Posted by eljefe (Member # 1753) on :
 
good job guys! wish i was there to see it.
 

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Posted by 03SVTPower (Member # 518) on :
 
hey did the s/c'ed Viper run, anyone see? I took off in disappointment before he got a chance to run.
 

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Posted by Yellow94GT (Member # 431) on :
 

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Originally posted by 03SVTPower:
hey did the s/c'ed Viper run, anyone see? I took off in disappointment before he got a chance to run.

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Originally posted by twisted54:
Was it crowded out there today?

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It wasn't too bad. There was a nice old school stang that hit the wall about mid day.
It got a little slow after that. But not more than usual.

[ November 12, 2005, 09:35 PM: Message edited by: Yellow94GT ]
 

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Posted by season'd 88 (Member # 169) on :
 


[ November 06, 2006, 12:47 AM: Message edited by: season'd 88 ]
 

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Posted by stoauto (Member # 2803) on :
 
nice meeting you too Drew, we had a blast out there today, dude, the runs were freakin bad ass, good shit shaun you just proved to me that i need to by a prcatice tree or something hehe. you got me and my buddy good both times off the line, but then i came back the 3rd run and gotcha, but only because i red lighted. lol:o heres are best time of the day...

1.523 sixty
99.094 in the 1/8
10.976 @ 124.413 just a cunt hair quicker then shaun lol. had to rub it in.

are best 60ft of the day was 1.446

[ November 12, 2005, 10:32 PM: Message edited by: stoauto ]
 

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Posted by 03SVTPower (Member # 518) on :
 

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Originally posted by Yellow94GT:

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Originally posted by 03SVTPower:
hey did the s/c'ed Viper run, anyone see? I took off in disappointment before he got a chance to run.

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I saw it trap 124 MPH. I don't remember the ET. Poop if you ask me.

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Originally posted by 88GtHatchback:
I was the one with the red 88 with black hood and wheels. It was my first run with the 347. Could only get a 13.075 at 109 with a 2.0 60'. I need some good tires. My brother was in the dark green 69 Mach 1. He ran his best of 12.8 at 110.

Clay

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Good lookin car man, i hear ya on the tires, I was pulling 2.2-2.3 60 foot times in my Cobra. Guess my Michillen Pilots arent very good for 1/4 mile performance
 

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Posted by FasterDamnit (Member # 442) on :
 
Driver skill alao has a lot to do with it. Practice and you can bring that 60 foot down. try slipping the cluth a little bit.
 

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Posted by FasterDamnit (Member # 442) on :
 

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Originally posted by stoauto:
nice meeting you too Drew, we had a blast out there today, dude, the runs were freakin bad ass, good shit shaun you just proved to me that i need to by a prcatice tree or something hehe. you got me and my buddy good both times off the line, but then i came back the 3rd run and gotcha, but only because i red lighted. lol:o heres are best time of the day...

1.523 sixty
99.094 in the 1/8
10.976 @ 124.413 just a cunt hair quicker then shaun lol. had to rub it in.

are best 60ft of the day was 1.446

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Originally posted by FasterDamnit:

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Originally posted by stoauto:
nice meeting you too Drew, we had a blast out there today, dude, the runs were freakin bad ass, good shit shaun you just proved to me that i need to by a prcatice tree or something hehe. you got me and my buddy good both times off the line, but then i came back the 3rd run and gotcha, but only because i red lighted. lol:o heres are best time of the day...

1.523 sixty
99.094 in the 1/8
10.976 @ 124.413 just a cunt hair quicker then shaun lol. had to rub it in.

are best 60ft of the day was 1.446

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Hey Evan,

Tell everybody what heads are on that stroker. I am impressed they ran 10's!

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Post up the specs on that camshaft as well. It's not in the Fordmuscle article....nor the intake/carb/exhaust setup. You're making me want to swap to carb!
 

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Posted by stoauto (Member # 2803) on :
 
heads are the Competition Ported AFR 165s yes 165s, heads along with the cam were supplied by ford muscle. the cam specs, i'll let chirag tell you that, as to be honest with you i dont know exactly what it is. i did the preperation/balancing of the motor, not the assembly.

the comp ported afrs flow around 10cfm more on the intake @.600 lift over the standard afr 165s the exhaust flows i believe 20cfm more @.600 lift.

 

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Posted by stoauto (Member # 2803) on :
 
but heres a quick rundown of the combo...

all forged 347
block was zero decked
10.5:1 comp
afr comp ported 165s
solid roller under .600 lift
coated pistons/bearings coated by polydine
edelbrock air gap intake manifold (this manifolds the shit)we gained around 15-20 hp at the wheels over the weiand xcellerator single plane!
proform 650dp
and of course the motor was assembled by the pros at Robs Auto Machine!

13/4 headers with straight 3inch exhaust with the mac mufflers that came with the car.

tranny is a stock t-5 blew up the first one, this one will also have a short life especially with the 6500 rpm launches with a centerforce dual friction clutch

rearend has 4.10s superior axles and a auburn hd carrier. dnd adj coilovers aftermarket upper/lower control arms forgot what brand. subframe connectors.

front suspension is all 4 cyl.

i believe thats it.
 

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Posted by AaronC (Member # 86) on :
 
from the article I read the cam is a crane s238. Brief specs were 238/246 .560/.579 and that's the only numbers given.

Evan, what does that car weigh? Where does it want to shift? Was it ever put on a chasis dyno? What did it make and where did it peak. That's packin some serious heat for some 165's

[ November 13, 2005, 01:07 PM: Message edited by: AaronC ]
 

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Posted by Yellow94GT (Member # 431) on :
 

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Originally posted by 88GtHatchback:
I was the one with the red 88 with black hood and wheels. It was my first run with the 347. Could only get a 13.075 at 109 with a 2.0 60'. I need some good tires. My brother was in the dark green 69 Mach 1. He ran his best of 12.8 at 110.

Clay

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Nice car. I'm sure there is tons more in it!
 

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Posted by CDT (Member # 5004) on :
 
I would think the car would be concidered a lightweight. Since it does have the PS, AC, Wipers, Rear seats, and FI removed. Fiberglass hood, narrower wheels and race seats. It does have some add-on's too, SFC, Street roll bar, lakewood bell housing, DS loop, rear control arms, etc. Its been on the dyno a few times, I think it did 380hp last time up. Still has more in it I am sure, that was after we blew though the clutch a few times with Nitrous.
 

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Posted by 93PONY (Member # 60) on :
 
Since the 2 cars were so close ET/MPH, we wanted to get the raceweight of each....but the scales were locked up.
From previous weighing of the wifes car & current mods I'd guess raceweight is around 3200lbs w/driver.

We've removed:
spare tire/jack
smog pump
Moose nuts on the rear end
Front sway bar
 

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Posted by stoauto (Member # 2803) on :
 

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Originally posted by AaronC:
from the article I read the cam is a crane s238. Brief specs were 238/246 .560/.579 and that's the only numbers given.

Evan, what does that car weigh? Where does it want to shift? Was it ever put on a chasis dyno? What did it make and where did it peak. That's packin some serious heat for some 165's

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and the rest about the cam are secrets that i cant give out because i dont even know them lol. some things about this motor my boss just doesn't want to give out. but we can build this exact motor for anyone interested.

the car i would imagine it to be around 3100-3200 maybe with me in it. thats just a guess though maybe more maybe less. its got the full dash/center console, all panels power windows/locks, and i little 6 point roll bar. no rear seat and two bucket seats up front and what CDT listed above. it still has the stock k member and front suspension, subframes, safety loop and the other stuff that CDT mentioned. oh there is no power steering or ac unit. its just one bad motherfucker.

Yes the car was put on our chassis dyno we have an 1100hp 200mph mustang dyno to go along with the FULL machine shop. all we did was play with the carb, we never played with the timing at all. this car WILL go faster. it made 381 at the wheels almost over heating after we did 4-5 nitrous pulls. NO we have not ran the car on the bottle at the track YET.

i shift at around 6800. where it made peak i'm not too sure, i'll have to get the dyno sheet. i'll let you all know by tomorrow night.

[ November 13, 2005, 02:06 PM: Message edited by: stoauto ]
 

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Posted by Yellow94GT (Member # 431) on :
 

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Originally posted by stoauto:

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Originally posted by AaronC:
from the article I read the cam is a crane s238. Brief specs were 238/246 .560/.579 and that's the only numbers given.

Evan, what does that car weigh? Where does it want to shift? Was it ever put on a chasis dyno? What did it make and where did it peak. That's packin some serious heat for some 165's

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and the rest about the cam are secrets that i cant give out because i dont even know them lol. some things about this motor my boss just doesn't want to give out. but we can build this exact motor for anyone interested.

the car i would imagine it to be around 3100-3200 maybe with me in it. thats just a guess though maybe more maybe less. its got the full dash/center console, all panels power windows/locks, and i little 6 point roll bar. no rear seat and two bucket seats up front and what CDT listed above. it still has the stock k member and front suspension, subframes, safety loop and the other stuff that CDT mentioned. oh there is no power steering or ac unit. its just one bad motherfucker.

Yes the car was put on our chassis dyno we have an 1100hp 200mph mustang dyno to go along with the FULL machine shop. all we did was play with the carb, we never played with the timing at all. this car WILL go faster. it made 381 at the wheels almost over heating after we did 4-5 nitrous pulls. NO we have not ran the car on the bottle at the track YET.

i shift at around 6800. where it made peak i'm not too sure, i'll have to get the dyno sheet. i'll let you all know by tomorrow night.

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Originally posted by CDT:
its just a small kit like 100-125hp, its a stock block.

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[ November 13, 2005, 05:07 PM: Message edited by: stoauto ]
 

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Posted by Yellow94GT (Member # 431) on :
 

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Originally posted by CDT:
its just a small kit like 100-125hp, its a stock block.

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Originally posted by Yellow94GT:

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Originally posted by CDT:
its just a small kit like 100-125hp, its a stock block.

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Kinda scary..lol

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Tick-tick-tick....I hear the countdown till "boom" already. j/k!
 

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Posted by CDT (Member # 5004) on :
 
no biggie, we have other engines ready to go for it. Would be nice to see this simple combo run a 9

[ November 13, 2005, 05:25 PM: Message edited by: CDT ]
 

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Posted by stoauto (Member # 2803) on :
 

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Originally posted by CDT:
no biggie, we have other engines ready to go for it.

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thats what i'm talkin about. got a turn key 351 windsor stroker ready to go.

[ November 13, 2005, 05:25 PM: Message edited by: stoauto ]
 

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Posted by CDT (Member # 5004) on :
 

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Originally posted by stoauto:

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Originally posted by CDT:
no biggie, we have other engines ready to go for it.

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thats what i'm talkin about. got a turn key 351 windsor stroker ready to go.

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Originally posted by CDT:

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Originally posted by stoauto:

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Originally posted by CDT:
no biggie, we have other engines ready to go for it.

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thats what i'm talkin about. got a turn key 351 windsor stroker ready to go.

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and a turbo 383W under the bench.

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lol thats right, we got 'em lined up.

 

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Posted by CDT (Member # 5004) on :
 
hmmmm, maybe we should put an LS1 in it.
 

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Posted by stoauto (Member # 2803) on :
 
we could take that 6.0L were building up. i'm sure you know all about that one. haaahaaaa

[ November 13, 2005, 05:34 PM: Message edited by: stoauto ]
 

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Posted by CDT (Member # 5004) on :
 
twin VTEC's??
 

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Posted by stoauto (Member # 2803) on :
 
ha! yeah right.
 

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Posted by CDT (Member # 5004) on :
 
get down to the shop and get to work..
 

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Posted by stoauto (Member # 2803) on :
 
lol, dont you got a 6.0L ls1 with a sts rear mount turbo to put into a 2004 gto. or something like that. hehe.

[ November 13, 2005, 05:44 PM: Message edited by: stoauto ]
 

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Posted by CDT (Member # 5004) on :
 
ah, who would do something like that?? Maybe we should do a 6.0L powerstroke diesel in the Mustang.
 

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Posted by 67stang (Member # 549) on :
 
Nice ET's guys!

The motor build up and engine dyno article is here:

http://www.fordmuscle.com/archives/2005/05/DynoDuel/

I'm sure you guys are making better/broader torque with the dual plane intake now.

The cam is a mechanical roller 238/246 .560"/.579" 110LSA.


I gotta say though, IF the car weighs 3200lbs, and you dynoed at 380 rear wheel hp... that doesn't ad up to 10.9/124. I'd suspect the race weight to be more like 2800. But I've never see the car... You sure you aint sprayin' about a 75 shot
 

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Posted by Spellbound (Member # 1553) on :
 

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Originally posted by 67stang:
Nice ET's guys!

The motor build up and engine dyno article is here:

http://www.fordmuscle.com/archives/2005/05/DynoDuel/

I'm sure you guys are making better/broader torque with the dual plane intake now.

The cam is a mechanical roller 238/246 .560"/.579" 110LSA.


I gotta say though, IF the car weighs 3200lbs, and you dynoed at 380 rear wheel hp... that doesn't ad up to 10.9/124. I'd suspect the race weight to be more like 2800. But I've never see the car... You sure you aint sprayin' about a 75 shot

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Originally posted by 67stang:
Nice ET's guys!

The motor build up and engine dyno article is here:

http://www.fordmuscle.com/archives/2005/05/DynoDuel/

I'm sure you guys are making better/broader torque with the dual plane intake now.

The cam is a mechanical roller 238/246 .560"/.579" 110LSA.


I gotta say though, IF the car weighs 3200lbs, and you dynoed at 380 rear wheel hp... that doesn't ad up to 10.9/124. I'd suspect the race weight to be more like 2800. But I've never see the car... You sure you aint sprayin' about a 75 shot

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Originally posted by Glenn:
who is running between 11.00 and 11.50? And what were your 1/8 mile times and MPH?

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I'm not it the range but almost...11.56
1/8 7.34 mph 94.23
 

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Posted by 93PONY (Member # 60) on :
 
The Density altitude was between 300-400ft above sea level that day.

Unless they had a HUGE bottle hidden somewhere...or were swappin' bottles while hot-lapping.....they weren't sprayin'. MPH was increasing throughout the day....which wouldn't happen if you were running out of bottle from repeated runs down the track.

Nope....not spray, but I do think the car is significantly lighter then 3200lbs.

Last time we weighed 91PONY it was 3050lbs without driver, slicks on 10-holes, & skinnies up front with 3/4 tank of fuel, smog pump, A/C, PS, etc.

Carb setups are lighter in weight then EFI due to many less parts & aluminum...so there's a few pounds there. 10lbs maybe
Fiberglass hood....25-30lbs there.
Windsheild wiper stuff 5-7lbs + empty the fluid reservor for 5lbs
No intereior, front racing seats.....40-50lbs
No AC, PS, smog pump.....40-50lbs
lightweight rear wheels.....30+lbs
Misc other little things like removing the swaybar, etc....hell, I remember when Drew, Aaron, & I removed 100lbs of un-needed weight from Aaron's vert & nobody could tell a difference from looking at it...in the car or under the hood. There's a lot of little things that aren't needed with a Carburator setup VS EFI.

I'd guess the car without driver weighs around 2800lbs.
388RWHP from a mustang dyno.... I'd think 400-410RWHP from a dynojet would get a 3000lb foxbody (w/driver) down the 1/4 in 10.9 seconds at 124mph.
 

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Posted by stoauto (Member # 2803) on :
 
shaun/chirag are probably right about the weight, probably around 3k with me in it, i'm 200lb. we do still have the front and rear sway bar on though. it'll probably make 420 or so on a dyno jet. a shop down the street has a dyno jet 248 i believe, we took a blown ls1 which made 400 on our dyno made 455 ish on there dyno. we'll take the stang over there as soon as we get some time, we've been meaning to do that.

side note: we got 10 runs in that day car damn near over heated EVERY run. back to back runs baby.

[ November 14, 2005, 12:36 AM: Message edited by: stoauto ]
 

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Posted by 93PONY (Member # 60) on :
 
Wow! 400 to 455RW!
Damn!

Actually I wouldn't be surprised if your setup dynoed more then Heather's. These reverse-split setups tend to make low dyno power, but run hard at the track for what they have. AVG power & a fast reving motor make up for the lack of peak power #'s.
 

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Posted by stoauto (Member # 2803) on :
 
WOW! thats what i said, no bs.
 

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Posted by Yellow94GT (Member # 431) on :
 
I was also think that 2800-2900 w/o driver was a much closer guess. My pig of an SN-95 with all the weight reduction it has still tips the scales at 3300 w/driver.
 

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Posted by twisted54 (Member # 1981) on :
 

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Originally posted by Yellow94GT:
I was also think that 2800-2900 w/o driver was a much closer guess. My pig of an SN-95 with all the weight reduction it has still tips the scales at 3300 w/driver.

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Drew...you've seen the inside of mine, it's 3420 w/driver
 

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Posted by Yellow94GT (Member # 431) on :
 

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Originally posted by twisted54:

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Originally posted by Yellow94GT:
I was also think that 2800-2900 w/o driver was a much closer guess. My pig of an SN-95 with all the weight reduction it has still tips the scales at 3300 w/driver.

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Drew...you've seen the inside of mine, it's 3420 w/driver

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YIKES!
 

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Posted by 66 AC COBRA (Member # 904) on :
 

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Originally posted by twisted54:

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Originally posted by Yellow94GT:
I was also think that 2800-2900 w/o driver was a much closer guess. My pig of an SN-95 with all the weight reduction it has still tips the scales at 3300 w/driver.

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Drew...you've seen the inside of mine, it's 3420 w/driver

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but you have drew's weight in you left leg

my fox is about 3400 raceweight
 

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Posted by twisted54 (Member # 1981) on :
 
Eric...you trying to say in FAT??? I'm just still carrying a little holiday weight.
 

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Posted by stoauto (Member # 2803) on :
 

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Originally posted by twisted54:

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Originally posted by Yellow94GT:
I was also think that 2800-2900 w/o driver was a much closer guess. My pig of an SN-95 with all the weight reduction it has still tips the scales at 3300 w/driver.

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Drew...you've seen the inside of mine, it's 3420 w/driver

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you also got a vert though. trying to make a vert light, well hehe, we wont go in to that.
 

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Posted by twisted54 (Member # 1981) on :
 

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Originally posted by stoauto:

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Originally posted by twisted54:

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Originally posted by Yellow94GT:
I was also think that 2800-2900 w/o driver was a much closer guess. My pig of an SN-95 with all the weight reduction it has still tips the scales at 3300 w/driver.

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Drew...you've seen the inside of mine, it's 3420 w/driver

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you also got a vert though. trying to make a vert light, well hehe, we wont go in to that.

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I hear ya on that one...
 

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Posted by stoauto (Member # 2803) on :
 
hehe right on bro, fucker hauls though, saw you runnin at the track a few times, with that aod too.

side note: are car peaks at around 6800. are tach is set at 7000 so i guess i really shift at around 7200ish not 6800 like previously mentioned. i just shift when i see the light lol.

we may also be getting the car weighed tomorrow.

[ November 14, 2005, 03:13 PM: Message edited by: stoauto ]
 

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Posted by twisted54 (Member # 1981) on :
 
Thanks man...

I'm looking forward to seeing yours in action btw...
 

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Posted by Camara90 (Member # 134) on :
 
man I see fools aint playing games no more!!! Congats on the good runs. Heathers car sounds like a beast, I wish I still had mine.
 

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Posted by Yellow94GT (Member # 431) on :
 

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Originally posted by Camara90:
man I see fools aint playing games no more!!! Congats on the good runs. Heathers car sounds like a beast, I wish I still had mine.

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Your car still made more TQ than mine and more HP than Heathers!
 

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Posted by 98slowhoe 'FIFTYLX' (Member # 895) on :
 

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Originally posted by twisted54:
Eric...you trying to say in FAT??? I'm just still carrying a little holiday weight.

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No he is saying that Drew weighs about 150lbs soaking wet!!!! Although he claims to have gained weight from some 12oz curls ?!!?!??!
 

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Posted by twisted54 (Member # 1981) on :
 

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Originally posted by 98slowhoe 'FIFTYLX':

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Originally posted by twisted54:
Eric...you trying to say in FAT??? I'm just still carrying a little holiday weight.

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No he is saying that Drew weighs about 150lbs soaking wet!!!! Although he claims to have gained weight from some 12oz curls ?!!?!??!

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No pain no gain...Drew needs to step it up to 40oz lifts.
 

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Posted by 88gt (Member # 579) on :
 

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Originally posted by stoauto:

side note: we got 10 runs in that day car damn near over heated EVERY run. back to back runs baby.

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Why was the car nearly overheating?
 

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Posted by Camara90 (Member # 134) on :
 
[/qb][/QUOTE]Your car still made more TQ than mine and more HP than Heathers! [/QB][/QUOTE]


That setup did make some good power, I sure wish It would have went 10's. Congrats to evryone on the 10 second time slips!!! Someday ill be back in the loop until then I have to stick to the crotch rocket. Cheap, fast, reliable. Just add gas and oil .
 

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Posted by stoauto (Member # 2803) on :
 

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Originally posted by 88gt:

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Originally posted by stoauto:

side note: we got 10 runs in that day car damn near over heated EVERY run. back to back runs baby.

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Why was the car nearly overheating?

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