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Posted by SydeWaySix (Member # 3596) on :
 
Anyone have experience with both and can shed some light on preference between the two? Assuming neither will be used as a daily driver, rather a nice weekend car and potentially an occasional trackday outing...which car would you rather have and why? [patriot]

[ 2016-08-30, 04:54 PM: Message edited by: SydeWaySix ]
 
Posted by PonyBoy415 (Member # 13662) on :
 
I would go with the 16/17 because the new generation coyote platform is so much better then the first. It also responds so much better to boost due to redesigned heads and bigger valves. Forged connecting rods and crankshaft and of course IRS...
 
Posted by 93PONY (Member # 60) on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by PonyBoy415:
I would go with the 16/17 because the new generation coyote platform is so much better then the first. It also responds so much better to boost due to redesigned heads and bigger valves. Forged connecting rods and crankshaft and of course IRS...

The 15+ coyote engine is based on the Boss, so basically the same performance.

IMO it comes down to if you want to modify the car heavily or not. If you do, get the GT, if you want to keep it as original as possible get the Boss.
 
Posted by 135.0 (Member # 4992) on :
 
12/13 is the more financially responsible, but nothing beats a new car until the new car comes out then you'll be stuck with the old one...
 
Posted by CoyoteMike (Member # 13748) on :
 
12/13 Boss. Looks way better, same motor stoutness, more unique.
 
Posted by phildog (Member # 1214) on :
 
Boss. Not only is it a lot of fun now, but it will hold its value much better than the GT.
 
Posted by SydeWaySix (Member # 3596) on :
 
I really like the creature comforts of the new S550 cars, plus they're sexy as hell, but I have always appreciated the "exclusive" mustang models (ie: Saleen, Cobra, Boss, etc). I'd LOVE a GT350, but its just wouldn't be smart to do right now (kids' tuition, mortgage, etc.)

This purchase would definitely be a long-term car that won't be flipped (I know many people are doubting me already [Razz] ), but my wife wont let it happen - she is actually the one who talked me into buying a new/new-ish car that I can enjoy off the bat because she's tired of me messing around trying to get my cars to the level I want/need them at.

That being said, I want/need something I don't need to mod much, if at all. If I were to get the BOSS, I would leave it bone stock, assuming I can find one with the Torsen rearend, Recaros, and other Ford track goods. If I were to get the Performance Pkg 16/17 GT w/ Recaros, I would consider exhaust and maybe better springs, but that would be it.

Please keep the opinions coming... [patriot]
 
Posted by SIC9250 (Member # 8216) on :
 
Boss,easy choice..
 
Posted by SWITCH 625.0 (Member # 9322) on :
 
I have been watching Boss's and their resale value is staying relatively high. Currently, they look to be about the same price as a lower optioned New GT. The Boss has the low production numbers in its favor and I like the fact that the engine features CNC heads, oversized valves, improved rods,pistons,intake, etc. That's real hot rod stuff and it tacks another 500rpm to the red line. The Boss is unique and features a large list of specialty parts. It's the best handling SRA Mustang ever. The new Mustang's are absolutely Awesome but, the Boss is already off to a good start of holding it's resale value. A good deal on a Boss would be hard to pass up.
 
Posted by SydeWaySix (Member # 3596) on :
 
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Originally posted by SWITCH 625.0:
I have been watching Boss's and their resale value is staying relatively high. Currently, they look to be about the same price as a lower optioned New GT. The Boss has the low production numbers in its favor and I like the fact that the engine features CNC heads, oversized valves, improved rods,pistons,intake, etc. That's real hot rod stuff and it tacks another 500rpm to the red line. The Boss is unique and features a large list of specialty parts. It's the best handling SRA Mustang ever. The new Mustang's are absolutely Awesome but, the Boss is already off to a good start of holding it's resale value. A good deal on a Boss would be hard to pass up.

Agreed. I, too have been window shopping for Boss 302s lately and haven't seen any under ~$35k with ~20k miles or less. There are even some with 40-50k miles for that price! Not sure what dealers were selling these for when new, but MSRP was ~$45k if I recall correctly, so depreciation is definitely not as drastic as other typical mustangs (which is a huge plus in my book). I just can't get over the improvements of the S197 though [Embarrassed]

The battle for me would be finding the right color should I decide on a BOSS. White is always my go to, but I feel that the BOSS deserves a "loud" color [Big Grin]

On the other hand, if I end up getting a S197, the color choices are merely endless...
 
Posted by iceman302 (Member # 7180) on :
 
Ian, you know where my vote falls.

While the new generation Coyote engine benefited from the Boss 302, to my knowledge, it doesn't have the forged Pistons that the Roadrunner engine has in the bores. Additionally, there's a lot more to the Roadrunner that makes it unique... different heads, different camshafts, unique intake, etc. I've always contended that the Boss was significantly underrated from the factory to keep horsepower numbers comfortably below the '12 Shelby GT500.

Obviously, low production numbers will keep the Boss collectible for a long time. It's a fantastic car. Even 4 years later, I'd be willing to give up the creature comforts of the new car for the Boss 302.

[ 2016-07-20, 08:02 AM: Message edited by: iceman302 ]
 
Posted by 97cobra209 (Member # 11376) on :
 
I would go with a boss at the end of the day a gt is just that no matter how much you dump into it plus you could say a boss is track ready off the showroom floor!!
 
Posted by Not_so_Stealth (Member # 7849) on :
 
Speaking as the owner of a 2012 Boss 302. I really love the car and don't plan on ever selling it. Straight from the factory it handled better than any of my previous modded mustangs. I agree with the underrated hp statement as well. I had the opportunity to drive a 2016 GT350 track pack at Laguna Seca and was quite impressed with the new chassis and magnaride suspension. Oh yeah and the brakes, Wow! The interior layout is also much improved over the S197 cars. I still wouldn't sell my Boss to get a GT350 let alone GT but I may have to for the GT350R.
 
Posted by SydeWaySix (Member # 3596) on :
 
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Originally posted by Not_so_Stealth:
Speaking as the owner of a 2012 Boss 302. I really love the car and don't plan on ever selling it. Straight from the factory it handled better than any of my previous modded mustangs. I agree with the underrated hp statement as well. I had the opportunity to drive a 2016 GT350 track pack at Laguna Seca and was quite impressed with the new chassis and magnaride suspension. Oh yeah and the brakes, Wow! The interior layout is also much improved over the S197 cars. I still wouldn't sell my Boss to get a GT350 let alone GT but I may have to for the GT350R.

Let me know if you are ready to sell your '12 Boss to get that 350R [Wink]
 
Posted by 90GT510 (Member # 9199) on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by 135.0:
12/13 is the more financially responsible, but nothing beats a new car until the new car comes out then you'll be stuck with the old one...

I think they about the same for a new gt vs used boss
 
Posted by 90GT510 (Member # 9199) on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by PonyBoy415:
I would go with the 16/17 because the new generation coyote platform is so much better then the first. It also responds so much better to boost due to redesigned heads and bigger valves. Forged connecting rods and crankshaft and of course IRS...

Does anyone know if on the s550, they finally fixed the lash adjuster/lifter issues that the s197s had?
 
Posted by 135.0 (Member # 4992) on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by 90GT510:
quote:
Originally posted by 135.0:
12/13 is the more financially responsible, but nothing beats a new car until the new car comes out then you'll be stuck with the old one...

I think they about the same for a new gt vs used boss
Right, I agree with both being the same price. How bout a 17 Saleen, treat yourself.

But if you get either or you can't really go wrong.
 
Posted by PonyBoy415 (Member # 13662) on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by 135.0:
quote:
Originally posted by 90GT510:
quote:
Originally posted by 135.0:
12/13 is the more financially responsible, but nothing beats a new car until the new car comes out then you'll be stuck with the old one...

I think they about the same for a new gt vs used boss
Right, I agree with both being the same price. How bout a 17 Saleen, treat yourself.

But if you get either or you can't really go wrong.

Saleen hasn't been delivering he's being sued by several Ford Dealerships, good luck with that one
 
Posted by SydeWaySix (Member # 3596) on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by PonyBoy415:
quote:
Originally posted by 135.0:
quote:
Originally posted by 90GT510:
quote:
Originally posted by 135.0:
12/13 is the more financially responsible, but nothing beats a new car until the new car comes out then you'll be stuck with the old one...

I think they about the same for a new gt vs used boss
Right, I agree with both being the same price. How bout a 17 Saleen, treat yourself.

But if you get either or you can't really go wrong.

Saleen hasn't been delivering he's being sued by several Ford Dealerships, good luck with that one
What's the going price for the 17 Saleen?
 
Posted by Rigo5.0 (Member # 5247) on :
 
Boss...

- Exclusivity
- Performance
- Long-term value (resale)

I would LOVE to get my hands on the Laguna Seca edition down the road.
 
Posted by SydeWaySix (Member # 3596) on :
 
I'd love a Laguna Seca as well, but I need the back seats so my kids enjoy the ride as well [burnout]
 
Posted by Robb (Member # 9444) on :
 
Between the 2, I'd go Boss. I'm a sucker for specialty Mustangs.
 
Posted by SydeWaySix (Member # 3596) on :
 
The exclusivity and long-term value of the BOSS 302 are what's keeping them on my radar. I know they're bad ass cars off the lot, but I LOVE the body lines of the s550. Such a hard decision - I wish the price points weren't so close so I could be "realistic" and just get the cheaper one.

Posting these pictures for comparison. My wife likes GHIG and Race Red (I personally like all colors lol!) She won't be driving it at all, but I definitely want/need to at least get a color she's happy with [Big Grin]

Side by side comparison (yellow s550 is not an option though!):

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2012 Boss 302 - Red:

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2013 Boss 302 - GHIG:

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2016 Mustang GT Performance Package - Race Red:

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With the Black Accent and Black Roof options (HOT!):

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Standard Performance Package w/ aftermarket stripe kit (usually not a fan of stripes but they make S550s look that much more aggressive):

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[ 2016-07-22, 10:18 AM: Message edited by: SydeWaySix ]
 
Posted by adower (Member # 5955) on :
 
If you're In that price range I hate to say it but why not get a c6 z06!
 
Posted by SydeWaySix (Member # 3596) on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by adower:
If you're In that price range I hate to say it but why not get a c6 z06!

Not really a corvette fan and it doesn't have back seats. It's probably a better performing car, but vettes really don't do anything for me. My uncle just picked up a brand new red Z06 and it doesn't excite me nearly as much as a GT350 does [Confused]
 
Posted by adower (Member # 5955) on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by SydeWaySix:
quote:
Originally posted by adower:
If you're In that price range I hate to say it but why not get a c6 z06!

Not really a corvette fan and it doesn't have back seats. It's probably a better performing car, but vettes really don't do anything for me. My uncle just picked up a brand new red Z06 and it doesn't excite me nearly as much as a GT350 does [Confused]
No doubt. I was just thinking if you want a track/road race car it's hard to beat that package.
 
Posted by SydeWaySix (Member # 3596) on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by adower:
quote:
Originally posted by SydeWaySix:
quote:
Originally posted by adower:
If you're In that price range I hate to say it but why not get a c6 z06!

Not really a corvette fan and it doesn't have back seats. It's probably a better performing car, but vettes really don't do anything for me. My uncle just picked up a brand new red Z06 and it doesn't excite me nearly as much as a GT350 does [Confused]
No doubt. I was just thinking if you want a track/road race car it's hard to beat that package.
I appreciate it! It will likely see a couple trackdays so it has to be capable, but I'm not really buying the car for that intention. It will be more of a weekend, nice day, kind of ride to enjoy with the rest of the family.
 
Posted by iceman302 (Member # 7180) on :
 
Sent you a PM.

Since you're planning on using the car with your kids, I'd lean even more towards the Boss. My kids fit comfortably in the Boss but the IRS on the new cars eats up rear seat space. There's no room!

[ 2016-07-22, 02:42 PM: Message edited by: iceman302 ]
 
Posted by 1sickGT (Member # 9276) on :
 
S550 FTW!! Jk bro both options are good [patriot]
 
Posted by 75 chevy (Member # 6717) on :
 
I bought a new GT once. Never again. When I brought the car in. The dealer(s) said its just a "GT" there's nothing we can do for you. If it was a Cobra that would be a different story. Buying a used Boss is cool. But no warranty?
They (Bosses) were at 40k in January... I have seen them at 33k currently.
IMO always Cobra....nothing less.
 
Posted by racsirx (Member # 1710) on :
 
You haven't driven a S550 yet?
 
Posted by SydeWaySix (Member # 3596) on :
 
Lee, I have driven one last year. They're great cars for sure! My biggest gripe is IF I were to get into a new S550 i Need to swallow the fact that its value will depreciate significantly over the next couple of years. A ~$44k car will only be worth about ~$28k even if I kept mileage low.

On the other hand, the Boss with, in my opinion, the same if not more "cool and fun factor,", will likely only depreciate a few thousand dollars from what I hope to get one for (~$30-$35k depending on options, mileage, etc).
 
Posted by 9cobra7 (Member # 2812) on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by SydeWaySix:
Lee, I have driven one last year. They're great cars for sure! My biggest gripe is IF I were to get into a new S550 i Need to swallow the fact that its value will depreciate significantly over the next couple of years. A ~$44k car will only be worth about ~$28k even if I kept mileage low.

On the other hand, the Boss with, in my opinion, the same if not more "cool and fun factor,", will likely only depreciate a few thousand dollars from what I hope to get one for (~$30-$35k depending on options, mileage, etc).

You've obviously made up your mind in your own words...case closed, gavel down!! The judge orders you to take out your new "boss" for a drink, that being Chevron 91 and make it neat!
 
Posted by SydeWaySix (Member # 3596) on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by 9cobra7:
quote:
Originally posted by SydeWaySix:
Lee, I have driven one last year. They're great cars for sure! My biggest gripe is IF I were to get into a new S550 i Need to swallow the fact that its value will depreciate significantly over the next couple of years. A ~$44k car will only be worth about ~$28k even if I kept mileage low.

On the other hand, the Boss with, in my opinion, the same if not more "cool and fun factor,", will likely only depreciate a few thousand dollars from what I hope to get one for (~$30-$35k depending on options, mileage, etc).

You've obviously made up your mind in your own words...case closed, gavel down!! The judge orders you to take out your new "boss" for a drink, that being Chevron 91 and make it neat!
Greg, I wish it were that easy! I really like the S550 and everything I can get with it BUT I'm just not sure (yet) that I can deal with the fact that it will depreciate at a much higher rate. When I drive a Boss I'll have to see if it gives me that "wow" factor as much as when I test drove the S550 last year.
 
Posted by 4IDFOX (Member # 9921) on :
 
I've been in both cars back to back. I'd take the Boss hands down. It's 150# lighter but feels like it's 3 or 400
 
Posted by BULLITTMAN (Member # 8468) on :
 
You seem to be more worried about the depreciation over what's the better fit for you and your fam. You haven't even bought the car and you're already thinking about selling it lol. IMO get the car that best fits for your needs which sounds like the Boss. Both cars will be fun and most normal people can't go wrong with either choice but for you the Boss is the choice due your selling habits.

[ 2016-07-23, 01:33 PM: Message edited by: BULLITTMAN ]
 
Posted by SydeWaySix (Member # 3596) on :
 
Troy, thanks for the input.

Bullittman, this will be my first and probably last time (in a while) that I buy a "toy" for over $10k....I need to consider everything long-term before I jump into something. My family likes both and I'm sure my kids (5 & 9) will fit in the back seats of both. Albeit cramped, that comes with the territory when purchasing a mustang. All that has been considered and is not really an issue as this is not going to be a daily driver/grocery getter.

If shit hits the fan and I do need to offload the toys, I definitely want something that will hold value. Plus, I want to continue to feel the "wow" factor after say 5 yrs or so...at this point, even with the age of the Boss and other "older" specialty mustangs, when I see them on the road I still get excited. I'm not 100% sold I'll feel that way with a new GT in 5 yrs or so. It's possible, but that's what I'm trying to weigh out right now. [patriot]
 
Posted by AL STOCK (Member # 1852) on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by SydeWaySix:
quote:
Originally posted by adower:
If you're In that price range I hate to say it but why not get a c6 z06!

Not really a corvette fan and it doesn't have back seats. It's probably a better performing car, but vettes really don't do anything for me. My uncle just picked up a brand new red Z06 and it doesn't excite me nearly as much as a GT350 does [Confused]
Damn, that's a first lol C7Z doesn't excite [Eek!]
 
Posted by SydeWaySix (Member # 3596) on :
 
S550 seems to be a bit more capable on the track:
http://vorshlag.smugmug.com/Racing-Events/Toy-Run-ECR-120614/i-WgFRLtq/0/960/DusoldProject6G-test1-ECR-120614-data-960.mp4
 
Posted by venomous99 (Member # 1917) on :
 
i would consider a 2010-2012 gt500 but im a bit biased.
 
Posted by SydeWaySix (Member # 3596) on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by venomous99:
i would consider a 2010-2012 gt500 but im a bit biased.

It has definitely crossed my mind but I'm bigger on overall performance/handling and not just raw power. Are you rolling in a 500 nowadays?
 
Posted by NEIGHT (Member # 8741) on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by AL STOCK:
quote:
Originally posted by SydeWaySix:
quote:
Originally posted by adower:
If you're In that price range I hate to say it but why not get a c6 z06!

Not really a corvette fan and it doesn't have back seats. It's probably a better performing car, but vettes really don't do anything for me. My uncle just picked up a brand new red Z06 and it doesn't excite me nearly as much as a GT350 does [Confused]
Damn, that's a first lol C7Z doesn't excite [Eek!]
Vettes don't excite me either but I'd prefer a C6 over a ugly ass C7 any day but that day will never come. [Smile]

I'd say you go Boss. If you look at 11/12 Mustang GT's they're like $20k sometimes with only 20k miles that's like cut in half in what 5/6 years? I'd take a GT500 though they're beasts on tunes with E85 but I know you're not into that fast stuff.

[ 2016-07-26, 09:30 AM: Message edited by: NEIGHT ]
 
Posted by TR1 (Member # 296) on :
 
In Sept 2015 I bought a 2016 mustang GT with no options becides the performance package. It was $33k. In my opinion, that's a lot of new car for 33k. I've never driven a boss but I can say my new GT is my favorite Mustang yet. It feels like a well rounded sports car not a standard Mustang feel at all. The only complaints about the car are in line with most other owners. The factory tires suck.

The clutch pedal feels too light and the shifter is not tight feeling. All of those are easy to remedy.
 
Posted by 9cobra7 (Member # 2812) on :
 
Ian Ian Ian....

You need to quit kidding yourself with all this mental anguish you are going through.

How many cars have you bought and sold in the last 5 years alone???

You know you'll be ready for something else next year anyways so just go get yourself a BOSS, wine and dine her at Chevron and Laguna Seca and call it a day.Until you get yourself a 20 car garage so you don't have to buy/sell all these cars constantly that is.
 
Posted by SydeWaySix (Member # 3596) on :
 
TR1 - with the options I want, I'd be looking at around $39k. I'm sure it's a blast to own, I don't doubt that, but it's hard when there are two different cars that I like/want but can only afford one lol!

Greg - it's just a matter of time. I wish it were that easy to own and keep all the cars I have gone through, but one toy at a time is enough for me! I'm hoping that whatever I get will be the end to all this madness lol! At least that's what he wife hopes/wants [Wink]
 
Posted by BULLITTMAN (Member # 8468) on :
 
Have you considered a Focus RS? Sounds like a fun car and unique as well.
 
Posted by SydeWaySix (Member # 3596) on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by BULLITTMAN:
Have you considered a Focus RS? Sounds like a fun car and unique as well.

If I needed a DD I would have considered that, but there's no need for another 4-door in my garage lol.
 
Posted by 9cobra7 (Member # 2812) on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by SydeWaySix:
quote:
Originally posted by BULLITTMAN:
Have you considered a Focus RS? Sounds like a fun car and unique as well.

If I needed a DD I would have considered that, but there's no need for another 4-door in my garage lol.
That's not "just another" 4 door! Just tell us you have no interest in that car damn it!! I love bustin' your balls bro cuz' you're such a mustang guy...love that! You bleed blue my friend [Cool]

I can't wait to see what you decide because I know it will be clean and mean [burnout]
 
Posted by SydeWaySix (Member # 3596) on :
 
Greg, no harm - no foul [Big Grin] When/if I get something, it should be clean and mean. Can't really go wrong with either option, really.

Call me crazy, but I'm starting to really like the Yellow Blaze 2012 Boss. It's unique and not a color you see much, if at all. That and the Gotta Have It Green 2013 really have my attention right now. IF I go the Boss route, I really want a color that "pops." I'd love a Performance White 2012 as well, but they're hard to come by with the mileage and combination I want. As for the 2013 Boss, since they look very similar to the standard GTs, I definitely want a color out of the norm [Cool]

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Posted by Hungry Hippo (Member # 537) on :
 
Just splurge and get a gt350 once they go for msrp or less. The boss doesn't seem that special to me, especially if the new gt looks better, has almost the same hp, and handles better. And if you got the track itch again, you wouldn't regret hacking it up or the track duty. The downside is you'll see them everywhere, so i personally wouldn't get one.
 
Posted by SydeWaySix (Member # 3596) on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by Hungry Hippo:
Just splurge and get a gt350 once they go for msrp or less. The boss doesn't seem that special to me, especially if the new gt looks better, has almost the same hp, and handles better. And if you got the track itch again, you wouldn't regret hacking it up or the track duty. The downside is you'll see them everywhere, so i personally wouldn't get one.

Hey John long time no see! I'd wait for a GT350 but it'll be at least another few years until they reach the $30-40k range. I just can't see myself spending $50-60K on a car, yet alone a Mustang. I'd rather get something reasonably priced in the $30K range and get my wife a new car too.
 
Posted by Black 02 SS (Member # 5939) on :
 
If it isn't a DD and you're looking for a performance oriented car, then who cares about the interior creature comforts. Track the hell out of the car and drive the guts out of it and enjoy it how its meant to be. You won't care about the navigation and other interior comforts as you try to late brake into T2 @ MRLS [Wink]
 
Posted by Robb (Member # 9444) on :
 
If your price range is $30-$40k, Why not get a 2010-12 GT500? Those will hold rock solid in that $30-$40k range for a good while.
 
Posted by SydeWaySix (Member # 3596) on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by Black 02 SS:
If it isn't a DD and you're looking for a performance oriented car, then who cares about the interior creature comforts. Track the hell out of the car and drive the guts out of it and enjoy it how its meant to be. You won't care about the navigation and other interior comforts as you try to late brake into T2 @ MRLS [Wink]

Definitely not going to be a DD, but I don't intend for it to be a track rat either. My kids are getting old enough to realize that I've had some pretty cool cars and they haven't been able to ride in most of them. This car will make up for that void and it'll be used for a nice weekend "bruiser" for me to take the family on some thrilling rides...of course there will be the occasional trackday in between though [Wink]

For the "occasional" trackday, it certainly must perform! I'm confident that either choice will perform beyond my capabilities, but I have realized that I want a bit of exclusiveness in the car, so the Boss is more than likely going to be the choice (unless I stumble upon a GT350 for $40k lol!)

It's really coming down to model year and color at this point...

I've pretty much narrowed the choices down to two cars. Both have very low miles and priced almost exactly the same:

2012 Performance White BOSS 302
*4800 miles, original owner, Recaros, Torsen, Boss mats, Boss car cover, ALL original dealers docs and Boss owner package, etc. Bad part is its across the continent and I'd be buying site unseen.
*I really like the frontend and black roof of the '12 Boss. Looks more aggressive in my opinion and the body looks smaller due to the unpainted rocker panels. I've always liked white cars, regardless whether its a Mustang or not, because its a timeless color that won't get old. They always look clean too!

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2013 Gotta Have It Green
*non-original owner, ~7k miles, "most" of the Boss owners pack (not sure about original docs), tasteful mods (splitter, exhaust, springs, and tint), and its in CA.
*I like the '13 rearend and new electronics. The color has always appealed to me because its so loud and bold. The Boss deserves to be seen!

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Posted by SydeWaySix (Member # 3596) on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by Robb:
If your price range is $30-$40k, Why not get a 2010-12 GT500? Those will hold rock solid in that $30-$40k range for a good while.

I've considered it, but I'm not a huge fan of supercharged, high-horsepower cars. I appreciate well-balanced cars a bit more.
 
Posted by SydeWaySix (Member # 3596) on :
 
So I'm pretty convinced that the Boss 302 is the route I'd like to take. Love the new GT so maybe later down the line I'll get a used one for a cheaper price tag. That being said, I have 2 Boss 302s that I'm trying to decide on. I like both for various reasons, but please let me know your opinion.

quote:
Originally posted by SydeWaySix:


It's really coming down to model year and color at this point...

I've pretty much narrowed the choices down to two cars. Both have very low miles and priced almost exactly the same:

2012 Performance White BOSS 302
*4800 miles, original owner, Recaros, Torsen, Boss mats, Boss car cover, ALL original dealers docs and Boss owner package, etc. Bad part is its across the continent and I'd be buying site unseen.
*I really like the frontend and black roof of the '12 Boss. Looks more aggressive in my opinion and the body looks smaller due to the unpainted rocker panels. I've always liked white cars, regardless whether its a Mustang or not, because its a timeless color that won't get old. They always look clean too!

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2013 Gotta Have It Green
*non-original owner, ~7k miles, "most" of the Boss owners pack (not sure about original docs), tasteful mods (splitter, exhaust, springs, and tint), and its in CA.
*I like the '13 rearend and new electronics. The color has always appealed to me because its so loud and bold. The Boss deserves to be seen!

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Posted by NEIGHT (Member # 8741) on :
 
I don't know what these cars go for but just throwing it out there.

http://sacramento.craigslist.org/cto/5657965014.html
 
Posted by eldog68 (Member # 12928) on :
 
I was having the same dilemma as you about 6 months ago. I was looking at bosses or s550. do I spend money on newer and lose value or get another classic to hold or gain value. I went with a 66 coupe. which is cool but the problem is I still have the urge for a newer car.
get the boss.
fyi, theres a boss in Kansas city that's a better deal than that white one.
 
Posted by swedensky (Member # 12185) on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by NEIGHT:
I don't know what these cars go for but just throwing it out there.

http://sacramento.craigslist.org/cto/5657965014.html

That one is WAY overpriced.

I prefer the 11/12 front, the taillights can be added from 13/14 too giving best of both worlds. Don't think it matters to you but keep in mind no Sync in 12s only on 13s.
 
Posted by NEIGHT (Member # 8741) on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by swedensky:
quote:
Originally posted by NEIGHT:
I don't know what these cars go for but just throwing it out there.

http://sacramento.craigslist.org/cto/5657965014.html

That one is WAY overpriced.

I prefer the 11/12 front, the taillights can be added from 13/14 too giving best of both worlds. Don't think it matters to you but keep in mind no Sync in 12s only on 13s.

Yeah I noticed that after I seen what they go for on SVTP.
 
Posted by ed650 (Member # 9897) on :
 
I wonder if this one is still available for you

http://sacramento.craigslist.org/ctd/5672328783.html
 
Posted by BULLITTMAN (Member # 8468) on :
 
There's a reason it's called Gotta Have It Green, definitely go with it and the 13 model. It's up to date with the electronics and lighting.
 
Posted by phildog (Member # 1214) on :
 
I would not buy a white Boss 302. There are so many other great looking colors.
 
Posted by iceman302 (Member # 7180) on :
 
Tough choice. I much prefer the PW '12 personally, however, I'm completely biased.

That said I wouldn't buy a car sight unseen. Even though it has low mileage, I'd pay to have the '12 inspected. The shipping cost sucks too.

If you like each car equally, I'd go with the '13 just for sake of simplicity. Plus, you gotta make the wife happy. LOL

[ 2016-07-29, 08:33 PM: Message edited by: iceman302 ]
 
Posted by SydeWaySix (Member # 3596) on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by ed650:
I wonder if this one is still available for you

http://sacramento.craigslist.org/ctd/5672328783.html

I looked into that one and inquired about it but it has more miles than I want and it supposedly has "minor defects" on the front end. No thank you.
 
Posted by SydeWaySix (Member # 3596) on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by BULLITTMAN:
There's a reason it's called Gotta Have It Green, definitely go with it and the 13 model. It's up to date with the electronics and lighting.

I agree, the Ford marketing team did a great job using GHIG as a color to catch everyone's eye! It's very nice, which is why it's one of my options, but I just don't know if it's a color that if eventually get tired of. White is plain, but it's a classic color that really never gets old.
 
Posted by SydeWaySix (Member # 3596) on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by phildog:
I would not buy a white Boss 302. There are so many other great looking colors.

Very true, but these two have really caught my eye. The white '12 is subtle yet aggressive and the GHIG '13 is loud and bold. Two very different colors, both sexy in my opinion.
 
Posted by SydeWaySix (Member # 3596) on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by iceman302:
Tough choice. I much prefer the PW '12 personally, however, I'm completely biased.

That said I wouldn't buy a car sight unseen. Even though it has low mileage, I'd pay to have the '12 inspected. The shipping cost sucks too.

If you like each car equally, I'd go with the '13 just for sake of simplicity. Plus, you gotta make the wife happy. LOL

I've loved your PW '12 since the first time you posted pictures of it. Your car is really what made me think about getting a Boss in the first place. I know it is extremely risky to purchase as car sight unseen, but he shared copies of a bunch of documents, car fax, and tons of pics/videos. I'd be comfortable buying it if I can make up my mind about color options.

After speaking with my wife about the two colors, she actually thinks white would be the better option since we both probably won't get tired of looking at it lol.

I contacted Bruce yesterday and told him what I can get the white '12 for, shipped to my door. He's pretty firm in his price and is still above what I can get the '12 for. The one thing he has going for him is that he is somewhat local to me so I would be able to see and drive the car. I plan to make my way up there later next week.
 
Posted by iceman302 (Member # 7180) on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by SydeWaySix:
quote:
Originally posted by iceman302:
Tough choice. I much prefer the PW '12 personally, however, I'm completely biased.

That said I wouldn't buy a car sight unseen. Even though it has low mileage, I'd pay to have the '12 inspected. The shipping cost sucks too.

If you like each car equally, I'd go with the '13 just for sake of simplicity. Plus, you gotta make the wife happy. LOL

I've loved your PW '12 since the first time you posted pictures of it. Your car is really what made me think about getting a Boss in the first place. I know it is extremely risky to purchase as car sight unseen, but he shared copies of a bunch of documents, car fax, and tons of pics/videos. I'd be comfortable buying it if I can make up my mind about color options.

After speaking with my wife about the two colors, she actually thinks white would be the better option since we both probably won't get tired of looking at it lol.

I contacted Bruce yesterday and told him what I can get the white '12 for, shipped to my door. He's pretty firm in his price and is still above what I can get the '12 for. The one thing he has going for him is that he is somewhat local to me so I would be able to see and drive the car. I plan to make my way up there later next week.

Let me know when you're going to be up here. It would be good to finally put a face to the name. Maybe we can grab a bite to eat. I'll bring the Boss. That way you can see the PW in person to help with your decision.
 
Posted by SydeWaySix (Member # 3596) on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by iceman302:
quote:
Originally posted by SydeWaySix:
quote:
Originally posted by iceman302:
Tough choice. I much prefer the PW '12 personally, however, I'm completely biased.

That said I wouldn't buy a car sight unseen. Even though it has low mileage, I'd pay to have the '12 inspected. The shipping cost sucks too.

If you like each car equally, I'd go with the '13 just for sake of simplicity. Plus, you gotta make the wife happy. LOL

I've loved your PW '12 since the first time you posted pictures of it. Your car is really what made me think about getting a Boss in the first place. I know it is extremely risky to purchase as car sight unseen, but he shared copies of a bunch of documents, car fax, and tons of pics/videos. I'd be comfortable buying it if I can make up my mind about color options.

After speaking with my wife about the two colors, she actually thinks white would be the better option since we both probably won't get tired of looking at it lol.

I contacted Bruce yesterday and told him what I can get the white '12 for, shipped to my door. He's pretty firm in his price and is still above what I can get the '12 for. The one thing he has going for him is that he is somewhat local to me so I would be able to see and drive the car. I plan to make my way up there later next week.

Let me know when you're going to be up here. It would be good to finally put a face to the name. Maybe we can grab a bite to eat. I'll bring the Boss. That way you can see the PW in person to help with your decision.
Sounds good! We have actually met in person before [Big Grin] it was on one of the smaller cruises that Terrence and I somewhat organized. I had the FALEEN and you had the G8 [burnout]
 
Posted by iceman302 (Member # 7180) on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by SydeWaySix:
quote:
Originally posted by iceman302:
quote:
Originally posted by SydeWaySix:
quote:
Originally posted by iceman302:
Tough choice. I much prefer the PW '12 personally, however, I'm completely biased.

That said I wouldn't buy a car sight unseen. Even though it has low mileage, I'd pay to have the '12 inspected. The shipping cost sucks too.

If you like each car equally, I'd go with the '13 just for sake of simplicity. Plus, you gotta make the wife happy. LOL

I've loved your PW '12 since the first time you posted pictures of it. Your car is really what made me think about getting a Boss in the first place. I know it is extremely risky to purchase as car sight unseen, but he shared copies of a bunch of documents, car fax, and tons of pics/videos. I'd be comfortable buying it if I can make up my mind about color options.

After speaking with my wife about the two colors, she actually thinks white would be the better option since we both probably won't get tired of looking at it lol.

I contacted Bruce yesterday and told him what I can get the white '12 for, shipped to my door. He's pretty firm in his price and is still above what I can get the '12 for. The one thing he has going for him is that he is somewhat local to me so I would be able to see and drive the car. I plan to make my way up there later next week.

Let me know when you're going to be up here. It would be good to finally put a face to the name. Maybe we can grab a bite to eat. I'll bring the Boss. That way you can see the PW in person to help with your decision.
Sounds good! We have actually met in person before [Big Grin] it was on one of the smaller cruises that Terrence and I somewhat organized. I had the FALEEN and you had the G8 [burnout]
Ha! I remember that! Sucks getting old. I loved that GXP. I still know where it is. IIRC, the third owner lives in Ohio.

Your PM the other day...

"If you happen to talk to Bruce, mention that you know who I am (at least via Cafords that is.)"

...had me thinking we'd never met. Sorry about that.
 
Posted by Rigo5.0 (Member # 5247) on :
 
My vote goes to the - 2013 Gotta have it GREEN!

- Have seen very few GREEN on the road; I've seen several in white
- 13s come with SYNC (love that in my 13 GT500)
- Rear taillights look better on the 13s IMO

[ 2016-07-30, 05:59 PM: Message edited by: Rigo5.0 ]
 
Posted by 97cobra209 (Member # 11376) on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by Rigo5.0:
My vote goes to the - 2013 Gotta have it GREEN!

- Have seen very few GREEN on the road; I've seen several in white
- 13s come with SYNC (love that in my 13 GT500)
- Rear taillights look better on the 13s IMO

I have a 2011 gt and has sync so that was available since 2011!
 
Posted by SydeWaySix (Member # 3596) on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by Rigo5.0:
My vote goes to the - 2013 Gotta have it GREEN!

- Have seen very few GREEN on the road; I've seen several in white
- 13s come with SYNC (love that in my 13 GT500)
- Rear taillights look better on the 13s IMO

I haven't seen very many Boss 302's on the road since they first came out in 2012! I've probably seen a total of 5 or so as of today. I've seen them at mustang shows and Shelby events, but I don't count that.

I agree with you though, I've never seen a GHIG Boss on the road, but have seen maybe 2 white '12's in the past. But even then, they're pretty rare as is!

In comparison to the new GT350, which I've already seen 8-10 on the road, it seems that the '12-13 Boss is more rare (at least in CA) [Confused]
 
Posted by swedensky (Member # 12185) on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by 97cobra209:
quote:
Originally posted by Rigo5.0:
My vote goes to the - 2013 Gotta have it GREEN!

- Have seen very few GREEN on the road; I've seen several in white
- 13s come with SYNC (love that in my 13 GT500)
- Rear taillights look better on the 13s IMO

I have a 2011 gt and has sync so that was available since 2011!
Boss didn't have it in 12 #becauseracecar
 
Posted by SydeWaySix (Member # 3596) on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by swedensky:
quote:
Originally posted by 97cobra209:
quote:
Originally posted by Rigo5.0:
My vote goes to the - 2013 Gotta have it GREEN!

- Have seen very few GREEN on the road; I've seen several in white
- 13s come with SYNC (love that in my 13 GT500)
- Rear taillights look better on the 13s IMO

I have a 2011 gt and has sync so that was available since 2011!
Boss didn't have it in 12 #becauseracecar
Tyler, you need to just discount that '16 GT350 for me and I'll forget about the Boss completely [Wink]
 
Posted by SydeWaySix (Member # 3596) on :
 
Ended up getting a '12 Competition Orange Boss 302 for a smoking great deal! Car has very low miles, extremely clean, and runs awesome! Unfortunately it doesn't have the Recaros or Torsen, but I couldn't pass up the deal. [burnout]


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Posted by Hungry Hippo (Member # 537) on :
 
Awesome, that stuff should easily be added later
 
Posted by SVTGhoust (Member # 20) on :
 
That's a great looking car. Congratulations
 
Posted by NEIGHT (Member # 8741) on :
 
A toy car? Or did you end up really buying one?
 
Posted by SydeWaySix (Member # 3596) on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by NEIGHT:
A toy car? Or did you end up really buying one?

Lol! Good eye. I thought it was more obvious, but I guess my picture skills are pretty legit [Razz] I found this at a little toy store in Solvang driving back up from SD. It's my son's, but I thought it looked pretty good for a model [Whoo Whooooo!]
 
Posted by NEIGHT (Member # 8741) on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by SydeWaySix:
quote:
Originally posted by NEIGHT:
A toy car? Or did you end up really buying one?

Lol! Good eye. I thought it was more obvious, but I guess my picture skills are pretty legit [Razz] I found this at a little toy store in Solvang driving back up from SD. It's my son's, but I thought it looked pretty good for a model [Whoo Whooooo!]
Now you have to get the real one to show him how badass these cars are!
 
Posted by SVTGhoust (Member # 20) on :
 
HAHA. Fooled me. I had to look back closely after it got called out for a toy.
 
Posted by 9cobra7 (Member # 2812) on :
 
HAHA.... I looked at this on my phone and thought you got a real one, then I opened it on my laptop and can see clearly that's a toy. You prick [Big Grin]
I look forward to see what you end up getting.
 
Posted by ed650 (Member # 9897) on :
 
That headlight is what gives it away other than that it looks like a real car
 
Posted by SydeWaySix (Member # 3596) on :
 
She's home...of course, the little guys knows it'll likely be his one day. Trackey activated = CHECK [burnout]


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2013 Performance White Boss 302 #356, 3200 miles, 99.7% stock (only upgrade is the FRPP brake cooling duct kit), purchased from, in my opinion, a car god! Couldn't have asked for a better situation. The car is cherry and was hibernating alongside a bunch of other beautiful cars.

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Proud papa of this baby (pardon my ugly mug [Razz] ) standing next to Wayne Carini from the TV show, "Chasing Classic Cars" hahah...j/k, previous owner sure does look like Wayne though! Awesome guy!

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[ 2016-08-30, 05:49 PM: Message edited by: SydeWaySix ]
 
Posted by 135.0 (Member # 4992) on :
 
Nice ride, welcome to the coyote club!
 
Posted by 50 Deep (Member # 6216) on :
 
The hunt is finally owner. Looks like he bought a RR GT350 and decided to sell the Boss?
 
Posted by 97cobra209 (Member # 11376) on :
 
Nice!!
 
Posted by iceman302 (Member # 7180) on :
 
Congrats, Ian! Now it's time to get the (almost) twins together for a photo shoot. 👍🏻
 
Posted by Rigo5.0 (Member # 5247) on :
 
Congrats!

Looks like you picked up a gem.
 
Posted by SydeWaySix (Member # 3596) on :
 
Thanks fellas! Feels good to be back in a mustang that performs and passes smog legitimately lol! Haven't felt this good about a Mustang since the Faleen.

-Terrence, he sold the car to thin out the heard a bit. He has over a dozen NICE cars and to be honest, the Boss was probably one of the "lesser" of the bunch. He obviously didn't drive it much (with 3100 miles over 4 yrs) so he decided to sell it when he and Rick (VoodooBoss) spoke at the Shelby Mini Nats. Long story short, Rick connected me to Dave and we've been in contact since. Car was never listed for sale.

-Dave, I'm ready for a shoot! Let me know when and where.
 
Posted by iceman302 (Member # 7180) on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by SydeWaySix:
Dave, I'm ready for a shoot! Let me know when and where.

We will have to figure something out.

If they aren't removed already, you've got to take out the restrictor plates for the side exhaust. 😉

[ 2016-08-31, 06:20 AM: Message edited by: iceman302 ]
 
Posted by NEIGHT (Member # 8741) on :
 
Congrats on the Boss, looks immaculate! If you think he looks like Wayne Carini you should see my uncles coworker, he even dresses like him and has no clue who he is. BTW I guess no one here ever looks like how I picture them.
 
Posted by SydeWaySix (Member # 3596) on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by iceman302:
quote:
Originally posted by SydeWaySix:
Dave, I'm ready for a shoot! Let me know when and where.

We will have to figure something out.

If they aren't removed already, you've got to take out the restrictor plates for the side exhaust. 😉

Restrictive plates removed = check!
Trackey enabled = check!
Rag doll romps with the family = check!
 
Posted by SydeWaySix (Member # 3596) on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by NEIGHT:
Congrats on the Boss, looks immaculate! If you think he looks like Wayne Carini you should see my uncles coworker, he even dresses like him and has no clue who he is. BTW I guess no one here ever looks like how I picture them.

Thanks Neight - the car was definitely in good hands. And you're absolutely right, most people don't look as you would imagine by reading posts on Internet

[ 2016-08-31, 07:08 AM: Message edited by: SydeWaySix ]
 
Posted by SnakeForce (Member # 9313) on :
 
Congrats bro,great find and now enjoy it,hope to see it soon in person lol
 
Posted by iceman302 (Member # 7180) on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by 135.0:
Nice ride, welcome to the coyote club!

Technically, the Boss 302 engine is called the Roadrunner. 😉

http://www.mustangandfords.com/car-reviews/m5lp-1108-2011-ford-mustang-302/
 
Posted by 135.0 (Member # 4992) on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by iceman302:
quote:
Originally posted by 135.0:
Nice ride, welcome to the coyote club!

Technically, the Boss 302 engine is called the Roadrunner. 😉

http://www.mustangandfords.com/car-reviews/m5lp-1108-2011-ford-mustang-302/

What !!! Next level shit! [worship] [worship] [worship]
 
Posted by BULLITTMAN (Member # 8468) on :
 
Congrats Ian it looks like you found the right one, it's practically brand new and a garage queen. Nice!
 
Posted by Marks93 (Member # 11130) on :
 
Great purchase. The little guy knows good stuff when he sees it!! [Big Grin]
 
Posted by SydeWaySix (Member # 3596) on :
 
Thanks guys, couldn't be happier with the car. Still need to learn all the functions and gadgets so it'll be a while until I decide to start modding. Took a few "better" pictures of the car yesterday.

Here she is, watching the sunset [Big Grin]

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[ 2016-08-31, 01:27 PM: Message edited by: SydeWaySix ]
 
Posted by NEIGHT (Member # 8741) on :
 
One question, how much do you want for it?
 
Posted by SydeWaySix (Member # 3596) on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by NEIGHT:
One question, how much do you want for it?

Enough to buy a GT350 to replace it with.
 




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