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Posted by cobraracer46 (Member # 1142) on :
 
Another shooting in a public place were multiple shots where fired. This time, this shooting bull shit took place at a mall in New Jersey.

Mass shootings at schools, movie theaters, malls and just a few days ago, a shoot in a place i would have never imagined, a freaking air port terminal. It just does not matter, you are not safe anywhere. What's next, a shooting a library, church or supermarket? what do you expect when there are too many god damn guns floating around that are too easy to get.
http://www.cnn.com/2013/11/04/us/new-jersey-mall-shooting/index.html?hpt=hp_t1


Worse still, we have gun nuts with a hard on to blow people away. Here we have a CA fords thread were a lunatic gun nut dreams of some one breaking into their home so they can blast them away with a fire arm.

gun nut with sweet dreams of blowing people away
 

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Posted by 66_5.0 (Member # 9974) on :
 
Dude, just answer the legitimate questions asked to you here in your other thread and stop trolling. Grow up and learn to have a civilized debate. We're not in high school anymore.
 

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Posted by fstryde3 (Member # 8436) on :
 
Yes another shooting, another fucking idiot and another sad story, but what do you want us to do punish every responsible legal safe gun owner in this country? Go away idiot.
 

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Posted by 0089GT (Member # 9996) on :
 
i think cobraracer is somewhat correct....

we need more gun restricting laws to lower crimes such as these ie. making it harder to buy a gun. such as more steps, or more hierarchy to go through more papers to file more background checks to go through...but the problem is a societal one as well, alot of the guns used in crimes such as these are illegal, with that being said we need to have more police activities in all parts of the cities including inner city neighborhoods...banning guns is not the answer, making it harder to obtain one may work, that would weed out all the people who cannot pass background checks and special training on how to use one.... MY REAL OPINION I HONESTLY THINK WE SHOULD BAN GUNS AND FIGHT WITH SWORDS, THEN WE WILL SEE WHO REALLY IS WILLING TO RISK THEIR LIFE
 

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Posted by warhorse58gt (Member # 7702) on :
 

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Originally posted by 0089GT:
i think cobraracer is somewhat correct....

we need more gun restricting laws to lower crimes such as these ie. making it harder to buy a gun. such as more steps, or more hierarchy to go through more papers to file more background checks to go through...but the problem is a societal one as well, alot of the guns used in crimes such as these are illegal, with that being said we need to have more police activities in all parts of the cities including inner city neighborhoods...banning guns is not the answer, making it harder to obtain one may work, that would weed out all the people who cannot pass background checks and special training on how to use one.... MY REAL OPINION I HONESTLY THINK WE SHOULD BAN GUNS AND FIGHT WITH SWORDS, THEN WE WILL SEE WHO REALLY IS WILLING TO RISK THEIR LIFE

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Originally posted by 0089GT:
i think cobraracer is somewhat correct....

we need more gun restricting laws to lower crimes such as these ie. making it harder to buy a gun. such as more steps, or more hierarchy to go through more papers to file more background checks to go through...but the problem is a societal one as well, alot of the guns used in crimes such as these are illegal, with that being said we need to have more police activities in all parts of the cities including inner city neighborhoods...banning guns is not the answer, making it harder to obtain one may work, that would weed out all the people who cannot pass background checks and special training on how to use one.... MY REAL OPINION I HONESTLY THINK WE SHOULD BAN GUNS AND FIGHT WITH SWORDS, THEN WE WILL SEE WHO REALLY IS WILLING TO RISK THEIR LIFE

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1st off. We don't need any more gun control laws. They don't work! Notice all these shootings are in gun control states, in gun free zones? Depending on what city you are in, Gangs are responsible for 60-80% of gun murders & gun crimes. Do you think it would make much of a difference to them? Nope, they are already breaking the law. It is against the law to murder people. They didn't care. It was against the law to carry, and fire them in gun free zones. Did it stop them? Nope. Most shootings are either gang related, or mentally ill people. Both shouldn't have guns. Outlawing guns, magazine sizes, what ever, only hurts the people that follow the laws. Not the bad guys. What part of that don't you get? Drugs are illegal. How has that war on drugs working? How did prohibition work out? You think the criminals get their guns at gun shops? No they either steal them, or buy them for someone else that did. Here is a link to the cdc study. Showing all gun crime is going down. It is a NRA link, but it has all the links to the study and numbers. http://www.nraila.org/news-issues/articles/2013/11/cdc-data-refutes-new-anti-gun-studys-claims.aspx

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Originally posted by 0089GT:
i think cobraracer is somewhat correct....

we need more gun restricting laws to lower crimes such as these ie. making it harder to buy a gun. such as more steps, or more hierarchy to go through more papers to file more background checks to go through...but the problem is a societal one as well, alot of the guns used in crimes such as these are illegal, with that being said we need to have more police activities in all parts of the cities including inner city neighborhoods...banning guns is not the answer, making it harder to obtain one may work, that would weed out all the people who cannot pass background checks and special training on how to use one.... MY REAL OPINION I HONESTLY THINK WE SHOULD BAN GUNS AND FIGHT WITH SWORDS, THEN WE WILL SEE WHO REALLY IS WILLING TO RISK THEIR LIFE

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Originally posted by cobraracer46:
Another shooting in a public place were multiple shots where fired. This time, this shooting bull shit took place at a mall in New Jersey.

Mass shootings at schools, movie theaters, malls and just a few days ago, a shoot in a place i would have never imagined, a freaking air port terminal. It just does not matter, you are not safe anywhere. What's next, a shooting a library, church or supermarket? what do you expect when there are too many god damn guns floating around that are too easy to get.
http://www.cnn.com/2013/11/04/us/new-jersey-mall-shooting/index.html?hpt=hp_t1


Worse still, we have gun nuts with a hard on to blow people away. Here we have a CA fords thread were a lunatic gun nut dreams of some one breaking into their home so they can blast them away with a fire arm.

gun nut with sweet dreams of blowing people away

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Originally posted by uh0h50:
Mods are just as bad as cocksmoker46. He makes a thread/post to ruffles feathers and everyone gets caught by the bait while that asshole just sits back and enjoys the show. Mods have no backbone. Either that or they're blind to what this asshole does. They are just as guilty as he is and need to get it over with and ban him. Carry on ..

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Originally posted by uh0h50:
Mods are just as bad as cocksmoker46. He makes a thread/post to ruffles feathers and everyone gets caught by the bait while that asshole just sits back and enjoys the show. Mods have no backbone. Either that or they're blind to what this asshole does. They are just as guilty as he is and need to get it over with and ban him. Carry on ..

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I don't think any of these guys are even around anymore. (Moderated by: 88gt, WIKD 281, S281Cobra, 2000BlackGT)

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Originally posted by SLOWBACK 67:
That's why I'm a supporter of long prison terms when it comes to illegal possession of a firearm. Give these POS gang bangers life in prison when caught with a stolen firearm. Make it so bad that criminals won't want to even use a gun in a crime because of the possible repercussions if they are caught.

Quit trying to ban my rifles & taking away my rights to legaly own guns, while at the same time criminals are let out of prisons early for " Over crowding & Good Behavior."

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Originally posted by John91coupe:

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Originally posted by uh0h50:
Mods are just as bad as cocksmoker46. He makes a thread/post to ruffles feathers and everyone gets caught by the bait while that asshole just sits back and enjoys the show. Mods have no backbone. Either that or they're blind to what this asshole does. They are just as guilty as he is and need to get it over with and ban him. Carry on ..

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I don't think any of these guys are even around anymore. (Moderated by: 88gt, WIKD 281, S281Cobra, 2000BlackGT)

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With a member # of 18, how are you not a mod!? lol

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Nobody ever asked. With a low number like that I should be made King, with the current state of this site.
 

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Posted by autumnstang97 (Member # 6111) on :
 
Even if we make gun laws stricter, what about all the millions of prior guns out already on the street? People will get their homes and cars will be broken into and guns will be stolen. There will be irresponsible gun owners who wont lock them up appropriately and someone will access them.

Mass shootings are a terrible thing. But unfortunately it wont stop. We just have to be as careful than ever before.

And it takes a good person with a gun to stop a bad person with a gun.
 

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Posted by autumnstang97 (Member # 6111) on :
 
Hey I'll vote for John91coupe, doesn't seem like anyone is managing the forum with the way this place is going.
 

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Posted by warhorse58gt (Member # 7702) on :
 

 

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Posted by 0089GT (Member # 9996) on :
 
yea thats why i said guns is tough...you cant compare drugs to guns though because if drugs were legal everything would change...lol guns are already for the majority legal unlike drugs. but yea longer prison terms for having an illegal firearm is the best solution more cleanup on the street
 

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Posted by FiveOhChuck (Member # 12588) on :
 
Guns don't kill people stupid people kill people.
 

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Posted by cobraracer46 (Member # 1142) on :
 

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Originally posted by John91coupe:

None of any new laws will effect the number of weapons that already exist anyway.They will never make a law to confiscate existing legally owned weapons. End of story.

Live with it or move to Britain or Australia.

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Originally posted by cobraracer46:

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Originally posted by John91coupe:

None of any new laws will effect the number of weapons that already exist anyway.They will never make a law to confiscate existing legally owned weapons. End of story.

Live with it or move to Britain or Australia.

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You notion of "no new law having an effect on existing guns"is incorrect.

California just passed legislation banning lead bullets and I suspect that the price of ammunition in this state will go up. That is one example of a new law having an effect on guns that are out on the street right now.
Along those lines, the government can pass a law right now that would tax the shit of ammunition. With the price of ammunition up dramatically, people would be less inclined to shoot because each shot would cost a lot.

Third, The government could launch an aggressive gun buy back program and this could result in street thugs hard up for cash to give up their guns.

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Originally posted by warhorse58gt:
None of this ammo laws would stop the bad guys form anything. They don't go target shoot, they don't practice. And people would just start smelting their own ammo.
The reason more people don't do it now is, it's to easy to go buy some. Cops can't keep criminals from making guns & ammo in prisons.

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Originally posted by cobraracer46:

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Originally posted by warhorse58gt:
None of this ammo laws would stop the bad guys form anything. They don't go target shoot, they don't practice. And people would just start smelting their own ammo.
The reason more people don't do it now is, it's to easy to go buy some. Cops can't keep criminals from making guns & ammo in prisons.

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No question about it: it is a fact that gun nuts are idiotic and foolish when a lunatic gun blaster saying the following nonsense: "Smelting your own ammo and criminals "making guns and ammo in prisons."

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Except unlike you, I speak the truth. I know lots of people that smelt their own rounds. It super easy. You don't have a clue what you are talking about do you?

Here is how to cast your own bullets..

http://www.zjstech.net/gunstuff/casting.html


Couple pics of guns made in prison... Damn your wrong again. Notice the guns in there?

http://www.correctionsone.com/contraband/articles/1961780-15-deadly-improvised-prison-weapons-and-tools/


So it looks like I was right again. And again, you don't have a clue. Like always.


Is this where I add, gun grabbers are lairs and have no fucking clue what they are talking about.. Damn dude go read some articles on what you are talking about. You make yourself look retarded when you talk out of your ass.

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Posted by diablounicorn (Member # 13033) on :
 
can anyone say chicago? strictest gun laws in the country yet #1 in homicides this year.you shut down gun companies that more jobs lost. i own a gun and plan on purchasing more, i love em, dont punish me because we have idiots in this country
 

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Posted by losbadgts (Member # 4394) on :
 
Do I care about guns? No I dont want them in my house nor would like my kids growing with them. Are strick gun laws going to stop crime or dumb fucks killing people? Nope. But maybe we need to go back to those laws that are and eye for an eye And start making example. Its sad that so many people in jail being care for with showers everyday meals and other shit. While we have elderly and kids miscare for. so I say if someone wants to kill people for fun. Hang that fucker
 

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Posted by graylx (Member # 3919) on :
 

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Originally posted by cobraracer46:

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Originally posted by John91coupe:

None of any new laws will effect the number of weapons that already exist anyway.They will never make a law to confiscate existing legally owned weapons. End of story.

Live with it or move to Britain or Australia.

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You notion of "no new law having an effect on existing guns"is incorrect.

California just passed legislation banning lead bullets and I suspect that the price of ammunition in this state will go up. That is one example of a new law having an effect on guns that are out on the street right now.
Along those lines, the government can pass a law right now that would tax the shit of ammunition. With the price of ammunition up dramatically, people would be less inclined to shoot because each shot would cost a lot.

Third, The government could launch an aggressive gun buy back program and this could result in street thugs hard up for cash to give up their guns.

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Originally posted by autumnstang97:
Or sell it for a street value for way more than $100 bucks or whatever.

Guns are great. It's a good sport and hobby, in the right hands.

There are shitheads right now with full auto AK47s with high cap mags, in California. What law stopped that from happening?

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Originally posted by cobraracer46:

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Originally posted by John91coupe:

None of any new laws will effect the number of weapons that already exist anyway.They will never make a law to confiscate existing legally owned weapons. End of story.

Live with it or move to Britain or Australia.

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You notion of "no new law having an effect on existing guns"is incorrect.

California just passed legislation banning lead bullets and I suspect that the price of ammunition in this state will go up. That is one example of a new law having an effect on guns that are out on the street right now.
Along those lines, the government can pass a law right now that would tax the shit of ammunition. With the price of ammunition up dramatically, people would be less inclined to shoot because each shot would cost a lot.

Third, The government could launch an aggressive gun buy back program and this could result in street thugs hard up for cash to give up their guns.

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Yeah, its driven up the price of ammunition and makes it harder to find.  Furthermore, some law enforcement agencies have had some difficulty sourcing ammunition as of late. Alot, if not most of the time, criminals use stolen firearms and are able to obtain ammunition (either by theft or having a proxy purchase it on their behalf). In this state, it is illegal for a dealer to sell to a prior convicted felon or for a prior convicted felon to possess ammunition or firearms. Yet, the police come across it all the time.

A lot of the gangs have guns which they stash at different houses at different times and have lower ranking members transfer them from place to place, depending on the amount of heat.

If a gangster is hard up for cash, they're not going to turn in the gun for a $100 walmart certificate. They're gonna rob a store or try to jack someone cultivating and selling marijuana (who likely has a medical prescription, but that's another issue altogether). Simple math: gun +$500 is better than $100 walmart certificate.

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Originally posted by cobraracer46:

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Originally posted by John91coupe:

None of any new laws will effect the number of weapons that already exist anyway.They will never make a law to confiscate existing legally owned weapons. End of story.

Live with it or move to Britain or Australia.

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You notion of "no new law having an effect on existing guns"is incorrect.

California just passed legislation banning lead bullets and I suspect that the price of ammunition in this state will go up. That is one example of a new law having an effect on guns that are out on the street right now.
Along those lines, the government can pass a law right now that would tax the shit of ammunition. With the price of ammunition up dramatically, people would be less inclined to shoot because each shot would cost a lot.

Third, The government could launch an aggressive gun buy back program and this could result in street thugs hard up for cash to give up their guns.

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