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Posted by j0eyabs (Member # 1026) on :
 
What is this I heard about some bill SB-374 passing and going to the gov's desk for approval. I heard if it passes all rifles with a detachable magazine would now be illegal? How would this affect us folks that just have 10/22's we use for varmint hunting, those would no longer be legal? I am new to this whole gun culture so still trying to figure out all these crazy CA laws.
 
Posted by RAP66 (Member # 3360) on :
 
lots of threads on Calguns.net
 
Posted by John91coupe (Member # 18) on :
 
I believe this is it.

1. Ban all semi-automatic rifles that accept detachable magazines. California’s assault weapons ban only restricts the possession of semi-automatic rifles that accept detachable magazines if they have an additional, “military-style” feature like flash suppressors. The new laws would tighten this law by banning all such rifles regardless of external features.
2. Ban possession of high-capacity magazines. California law bans the transfer, not possession, of magazines that can hold over ten bullets. This allows people wanting to skirt the law to buy the constituent parts and make the magazines themselves. The new law would close that loophole.
3. Ban “bullet button” conversion kits. State law defines “detachable magazines” as, in part, magazines that can be released “without the use of a tool.” Bullet button kits allow magazines to be released quickly by pressing a bullet into them, thus creating an end-around the intent of the assault weapons ban. The new provisions would ban such kits.
4. Bans shotgun-rifle combinations. It would ban this class of class of weapon.
5. Universal registration of all guns. The law would create “ownership records consistently across-the-board, ensuring all firearms are recorded” so that the background check system can prevent criminals from getting guns.
6. Background checks on ammunition. This provision requires a “full and complete” background check on ammunition sales, “building on” laws existing in Los Angeles and Sacramento.
7. Regulating gun loans. The legislators propose setting up an as-yet undefined regulatory system for the loan, as opposed to sale, of guns.
8. Prevent prohibited individuals from living in homes with guns. California’s Armed Persons Prohibition (APP) database lists people who can’t legally own weapons (as a consequence of criminal or mental health records) under state law. This addition would prevent people on the list from living in a house that has a gun.
9. Cracking down on people who can’t own guns legally but do anyway. Currently, 19,700 people who are on the APP list own guns. Police estimate that these people own roughly 39,000 firearms. This new law would authorize additional funding to enforce the law in this area.
10. Required safety training for handgun owners. People with concealed carry permits are required under California (and many other) state laws to pass a mandatory safety and firearm instruction course. This provision would require all handgun owners, regardless of permit status, to undergo a similar process.
 
Posted by j0eyabs (Member # 1026) on :
 
Thanks I will go to that calguns site. So sounds like if you own a 10/22 rifle right now you would have to get rid of it if this law passes?
 
Posted by red5o (Member # 12651) on :
 
That sucks
 
Posted by warhorse58gt (Member # 7702) on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by j0eyabs:
Thanks I will go to that calguns site. So sounds like if you own a 10/22 rifle right now you would have to get rid of it if this law passes?
No. You will have to register it, to keep it legal. Other wise it is banned. You can also not pass it down on your death. It will have to be turned over to the state to be destroyed. [Frown]
 
Posted by MACK.GT (Member # 10461) on :
 
that is some bull-shit
 
Posted by John91coupe (Member # 18) on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by j0eyabs:
Thanks I will go to that calguns site. So sounds like if you own a 10/22 rifle right now you would have to get rid of it if this law passes?
The way I see it is you have 2 choices, assuming that moving out of CA is not in the cards for you.

1. Register it and wait for the day they tell you to send it in or they will come and get it.

2. Don't register it and keep it safe until the day you will really need it.
 
Posted by j0eyabs (Member # 1026) on :
 
Well I dont mind registering it as long as they never come and get it. Guess the day the come and take our guns is the day the criminals all come out and have fun robbing us all at their leisure.
 
Posted by dean-93 (Member # 9401) on :
 
just got my ar lower for 150$ 4 days ago i suggest all you to do the same soon!
 
Posted by ItzStock (Member # 9665) on :
 
So legally owned ar's and others with detachable magazines will be Illegal? Or just have to be registered?

And if those legally owned with detachable mgazines become illegal... We have to turn them in?

[ 2013-09-16, 02:25 PM: Message edited by: ItzStock ]
 
Posted by warhorse58gt (Member # 7702) on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by ItzStock:
So legally owned ar's and others with detachable magazines will be Illegal? Or just have to be registered?

And if those legally owned with detachable mgazines become illegal... We have to turn them in?
These are 2 different bills. Yes they are trying to bann all semi-auto rifles with detachable mags. Not just Ar's. Hell my buddy has to register his 22lr. Because any semi-auto rifle with a detachable mag is now a assault rifle.You will have to register them to keep them legal. But they will not be allowed to be sold or transferred.

The other bill is going to outlaw all mags over 10 rounds. Not matter if they were all ready grandfather in under other laws. 100% illegal. Don't even matter if they are re-builders or full working mags. Each one is a separate felony.


People these bills aren't 100% final! They are sitting on the Gov. Brown's desk, waiting to be signed in to law. You need to be calling, emailing, faxing him. Tell him to veto all gun control bills! [patriot]

Here is a link with the bills. Call, email, fax, stand up for your birth rights.

https://www.firearmspolicy.org/the-issues/california/2013-2014/askbrown/

[ 2013-09-16, 05:54 PM: Message edited by: warhorse58gt ]
 
Posted by warhorse58gt (Member # 7702) on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by John91coupe:
quote:
Originally posted by j0eyabs:
Thanks I will go to that calguns site. So sounds like if you own a 10/22 rifle right now you would have to get rid of it if this law passes?
The way I see it is you have 2 choices, assuming that moving out of CA is not in the cards for you.

1. Register it and wait for the day they tell you to send it in or they will come and get it.

2. Don't register it and keep it safe until the day you will really need it.
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[ 2013-09-16, 03:50 PM: Message edited by: warhorse58gt ]
 
Posted by SL302 (Member # 9218) on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by dean-93:
just got my ar lower for 150$ 4 days ago i suggest all you to do the same soon!
I'm looking at doing the same bro, where'd you buy yours if you don't mind me asking??
 
Posted by SwEeT03Gt (Member # 10283) on :
 
BAN THEM ALL

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lol jk
 
Posted by cobraracer46 (Member # 1142) on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by warhorse58gt:


People these bills aren't 100% final! They are sitting on the Gov. Brown's desk, waiting to be signed in to law. You need to be calling, emailing, faxing him. Tell him to veto all gun control bills! [patriot]


LOL. You really think that a prgessive democratic governer like Jerry Brown is going to listen to a bunch of dumb ass FOX news watching republican voting gun blaster's cries to veto that gun bill? You really are delusional. LOL


Thank fuckin GOD that California a solid liberal democratic state that the NRA cannot attack. Fuck you NRA.

I feel really good that I voted for Jerry Brown and my democratic vote created a democratic majority in the state capital.

Once again Fuck you NRA.

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Posted by Greasy (Member # 5258) on :
 
LMAO you're a fucking moron
 
Posted by NEIGHT (Member # 8741) on :
 
Black market guns is the way to go. They keep going the direction they're going everyone will own a black market gun. Stupidity from the state if you ask me.
 
Posted by warhorse58gt (Member # 7702) on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by cobraracer46:
quote:
Originally posted by warhorse58gt:


People these bills aren't 100% final! They are sitting on the Gov. Brown's desk, waiting to be signed in to law. You need to be calling, emailing, faxing him. Tell him to veto all gun control bills! [patriot]


LOL. You really think that a prgessive democratic governer like Jerry Brown is going to listen to a bunch of dumb ass FOX news watching republican voting gun blaster's cries to veto that gun bill? You really are delusional. LOL


Thank fuckin GOD that California a solid liberal democratic state that the NRA cannot attack. Fuck you NRA.

I feel really good that I voted for Jerry Brown and my democratic vote created a democratic majority in the state capital.

Once again Fuck you NRA.

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LOl Decided to jump threads after making yourself look like the dumb ass retard you are. All they did by trying to pass a bann on semi-auto rifles is fuck themselves. To bad it is going to take 3-4 years of court bullshit to get it thrown out for being unconstitutional. While the state loses billions of dollars, from firearms sales, ammo sales, and hunting fees... But don't worry crime will just climb. You are opening a black market for guns & ammo. Look at the state compared to other more armed states. Ca. has 3-4 times the crimes, some times it's 10 times the amount of crime.. And it will only go up with these feel good laws.

Fucking retards like you keep Dumb ass senators in office.. Like Finestein. You know the go to gun grabber that is trying to get the 1st amendment changed. But that is ok for you. You don't need the 2nd, you sure as hell don't need the 1st!

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So which one is you? The guy that has penis problems or the retard that don't get it?

[ 2013-09-17, 09:31 PM: Message edited by: warhorse58gt ]
 
Posted by Greasy (Member # 5258) on :
 
Here ya go CockSmoker46

http://www.liveleak.com/view?i=3ad_1379284762
 
Posted by dean-93 (Member # 9401) on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by SL302:
quote:
Originally posted by dean-93:
just got my ar lower for 150$ 4 days ago i suggest all you to do the same soon!
I'm looking at doing the same bro, where'd you buy yours if you don't mind me asking??
bullseye in san rafel

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San Rafael, CA 94901
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and it was 190$ish out the door

[ 2013-09-17, 09:34 PM: Message edited by: dean-93 ]
 
Posted by NK2186 (Member # 12319) on :
 
Damn so my grandfathers 30-06 hunting rifle is now going to be considered an assault weapon because it has a detachable 4 round magazine?...

This is some retarded shit. Fear mongers like cobra racer are probably beating their meat to this bill.

We should bans pencils, pens, cell phones, fast food, cars, doctors, and pretty much everything because it can kill you.... Does that really make fucking sense? no... Just like banning guns doesn't make sense.

If guns were a "race" i would call cobrafagg0t46 a racist. If you don't want to own a gun that is fine do not own a gun. But do not force your opinions on the rest of us. America is about freedom not about what 1 person thinks.

'MURICA SALUTE!
 
Posted by Camara90 (Member # 134) on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by cobraracer46:
quote:
Originally posted by warhorse58gt:


People these bills aren't 100% final! They are sitting on the Gov. Brown's desk, waiting to be signed in to law. You need to be calling, emailing, faxing him. Tell him to veto all gun control bills! [patriot]


LOL. You really think that a prgessive democratic governer like Jerry Brown is going to listen to a bunch of dumb ass FOX news watching republican voting gun blaster's cries to veto that gun bill? You really are delusional. LOL


Thank fuckin GOD that California a solid liberal democratic state that the NRA cannot attack. Fuck you NRA.

I feel really good that I voted for Jerry Brown and my democratic vote created a democratic majority in the state capital.

Once again Fuck you NRA.

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You must feel great that your Libtard ass voted for another piece of shit who will continue to drive another Democrat state to bankruptcy. Nice job!! Lets continue to ban guns, and give people who don't want to work free shit!! Thats the answer dumb fuck!
 




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