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Posted by WildFire532FB (Member # 1482) on :
 
Well took the Fastback to the track today for the first time ever and i was doing good getting used to the car. Babying the hell out of it to see how she'd handle.
1st run: 15.09@82mph
2nd: 14.10@111mph
3rd: 13.86@112mph
4th: 13.24@113
5th: 12.97@111
6th: spun a bearing or bent a rod AND the track didn't even record my time which i am sure was better than 12.97
Next thing i will be doing is pulling the motor, hardly any oil pressure and a knocking from the motor.

All my runs were with 21psi in my NItto drag radials with no burnouts and launching kinda like i was coming out of a stop light.

[ December 11, 2011, 05:50 PM: Message edited by: WildFire532FB ]
 

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Posted by ONE2MANY510 (Member # 11476) on :
 

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Originally posted by WildFire532FB:
Well took the Fastback to the track today for the first time ever and i was doing good getting used to the car. Babying the hell out of it to see how she'd handle.
1st run: 15.09@82mph
2nd: 14.10@111mph
3rd: 13.86@112mph
4th: 13.24@113
5th: 12.97@111
6th: spun a bearing or bent a rod AND the track didn't even record my time which i am sure was better than 12.97
Next thing i will be doing is pulling the motor, hardly any oil pressure and a knocking from the motor.
All my runs were with 21psi in my NItto drag radials with no burnouts and launching kinda like i was coming out of a stop light.

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damn thats weak sauce
 

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Posted by stock fox (Member # 9211) on :
 
He you get her back on the road/track asap
 

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Posted by WildFire532FB (Member # 1482) on :
 
I just watched the videos they suck.
 

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Posted by ISP89LX (Member # 8949) on :
 
Damm bro sucks to hear, hopefully she makes a speedy recovery with your fastback. Sounds like she has a lot more fight in her, I'm sure with some more seat time you can see some very good numbers. Not bad for the first time, the digits were dropping fast.
 

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Posted by WildFire532FB (Member # 1482) on :
 

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Originally posted by stock fox:
He you get her back on the road/track asap

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I think i am gonna park her for several months before i pull the motor. Definitely not looking forward to doing all that.
 

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Posted by hilltim54 (Member # 10655) on :
 
Damn bro.. Sorry to hear that
 

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Posted by 68dustin (Member # 5388) on :
 
Damn noooooooo why did it do that.
 

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Posted by 1RaW03SvT (Member # 9151) on :
 
Im extremely disapointed also!! Thats a sad day man!! I could not imagine all that time and effort and to have that happen i cant even imagine!! Hope you get all the bugs worked out and get that bitch back on the road!! BEST OF LUCK TO YOU BUD!!
 

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Posted by Notch1320 (Member # 2647) on :
 
Sucks to hear Dana. I stopped by, but you looked busy and not to happy.
 

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Posted by fstryde3 (Member # 8436) on :
 
Hope you get it all worked out man.
 

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Posted by Pure Stang (Member # 7251) on :
 
Wow that sucks! What could have caused that?
 

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Posted by 98 ROUSH (Member # 10309) on :
 
Yeah the track is waaaaay different than the streets bro. Took me 2 or 3 trip to the track to start getting the hang of it.
 

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Posted by WildFire532FB (Member # 1482) on :
 
Not sure why it happened, just noticed when i was coming off the track i had almost no oil pressure. Ran and sounded fine, some guys pointed out the knocking noise when i started it up after letting it cool off. i was thinking the oil was just really hot and not showing pressure. It had more pressure when i let it cool down a bit but if its knocking there is something wrong.
 

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Posted by Cobra 93-4992 (Member # 4992) on :
 
so when you selling it?
 

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Posted by lxhatch5.0 (Member # 6319) on :
 
Fucking A!!!! I know how that feels having a fresh build loose oil pressure N take a dump on u. Hope its just the bearings n everything else is fine TTT keep us updated
 

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Posted by East Bay 50 (Member # 8081) on :
 

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Originally posted by WildFire532FB:
Well took the Fastback to the track today for the first time ever and i was doing good getting used to the car. Babying the hell out of it to see how she'd handle.
1st run: 15.09@82mph
2nd: 14.10@111mph
3rd: 13.86@112mph
4th: 13.24@113
5th: 12.97@111
6th: spun a bearing or bent a rod AND the track didn't even record my time which i am sure was better than 12.97
Next thing i will be doing is pulling the motor, hardly any oil pressure and a knocking from the motor.

All my runs were with 21psi in my NItto drag radials with no burnouts and launching kinda like i was coming out of a stop light.

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something was proably wrong with the car before you even took it to the track. to only trap 113 is pretty bad. i trapped higher then that with a lil over 370rwhp. you have over 500rwhp right? either way man i hope you get the car back together and running correctly
 

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Posted by turbo50 (Member # 6700) on :
 
WAY more in it and now when you come out it'll be even meaner! Atleast you made it to the track many don't get that far!
 

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Posted by iceman302 (Member # 7180) on :
 
Damn. There was clearly something wrong with the car before you even got to the track. The trap speeds just don't reflect the power your car made.

What were your 60 foots?

[ December 10, 2011, 08:45 PM: Message edited by: iceman302 ]
 

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Posted by season'd 88 (Member # 169) on :
 
Dana, don't let that get you down too much.
First trip to the track, even if nothing breaks, is usually a humbling experience.
Those that have never broke anything at the track are either not making any power, not having any fun, or just plain lucky..imo.
Good luck forward.
 

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Posted by CornOil_&_Boost (Member # 5888) on :
 
Sorry to hear that...next time, make sure if you hear anything or see low oil pressure, just be safe and shut it down...but hope you get it back soon...hit up Turbo50 for the new build..it'll be stronger and more reliable than ever...
 

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Posted by 93PONY (Member # 60) on :
 
Oh wow!
Sorry to hear this Dana. I saw your 12.9 run, sounded like you were taking it easy on launch and gear changes. I had no idea you ran into mechanical issues later on.

Time for a Coyote swap?
 

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Posted by Camara90 (Member # 134) on :
 
Damn that sucks bro, sorry to hear about that. Where was the motor from? I thought it made over 500 to the wheels and like 600 ftlb .. Should run good when you find out the issue, that car can't weight that much.
 

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Posted by Catfish (Member # 9529) on :
 
500WHP And trapping 112? That's what, 360 whp trap?

Sounds like tune issue. If it was leaning out, that would explain the heated oil.
 

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Posted by Brandonn (Member # 632) on :
 

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Originally posted by Catfish:
500WHP And trapping 112? That's what, 360 whp trap?

Sounds like tune issue. If it was leaning out, that would explain the heated oil.

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For it to go that lean the car wouldnt of ran as good as it did,
like i said man that sucks but you will fix it
 

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Posted by 50 Deep (Member # 6216) on :
 
Tough to hear bud. Hope you get her back running soon
 

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Posted by 50Reasons (Member # 6452) on :
 
Jus seen this sucks bro sorry to hear same happened here don't even want to look either
 

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Posted by Catfish (Member # 9529) on :
 
Were you guys hot lapping?
 

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Posted by 2T0NE (Member # 4216) on :
 
NO WORRIES BROTHA,fix it and goodluck next time,shit happens
 

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Posted by 89bluenotch (Member # 7454) on :
 
Fuck bummer man! Take a lil break then tare the motor down! Goodluck!
 

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Posted by racsirx (Member # 1710) on :
 
Sorry to hear, I know how you feel, I made 491rwhp and only ran 12s, clutch and turbo lag was killing me

http://www.californiafords.com/ubb/ultimatebb.php?ubb=get_topic;f=2;t=001976
 

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Posted by 90FoX (Member # 1974) on :
 

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Originally posted by WildFire532FB:
Well took the Fastback to the track today for the first time ever and i was doing good getting used to the car. Babying the hell out of it to see how she'd handle.
1st run: 15.09@82mph
2nd: 14.10@111mph
3rd: 13.86@112mph
4th: 13.24@113
5th: 12.97@111
6th: spun a bearing or bent a rod AND the track didn't even record my time which i am sure was better than 12.97
Next thing i will be doing is pulling the motor, hardly any oil pressure and a knocking from the motor.

All my runs were with 21psi in my NItto drag radials with no burnouts and launching kinda like i was coming out of a stop light.

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ohhh noooo sorry to hear about that. hopefully its not something tooooo bad.
 

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Posted by wilit (Member # 3367) on :
 
That sucks man. Sorry to hear.
 

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Posted by Luke87GT (Member # 21) on :
 
Dana, sorry to hear about this!

Don't let it discourage you though. Get the thing fixed and get back out there.

And I agree with the statement above, a Coyote swap and a stock hood would be pretty sweet!
 

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Posted by WildFire532FB (Member # 1482) on :
 
I am gonna pull the motor and do some more upgrades, port and polish the heads and intake to match better, run the oil lines on the top of the block to the back for better oiling. Degree the cam. Maybe a bigger oil pan, maybe do a hydrolic throw out bearing instead of the hydrolic arm clutch
 

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Posted by 68dustin (Member # 5388) on :
 
There hasent been a time I left the track and said shit I need this now. Sorry to hear about the motor, track will show all ur hidden problems.
 

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Posted by Eddie510- (Member # 2354) on :
 
Dana , was it a crate motor you baught assembled ? or did you choose ur own parts heads,cam,carb ect... ? and another important thing , what suspension is under that thing?
 

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Posted by WildFire532FB (Member # 1482) on :
 

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Originally posted by Eddie510-:
Dana , was it a crate motor you baught assembled ? or did you choose ur own parts heads,cam,carb ect... ? and another important thing , what suspension is under that thing?

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Just the short block was built, we put all the other parts on.
It's got qa1 coilovers in the front and martz coilovers in the rear. It was pretty solid going down the track, from the videos I have when I got on it the car didn't seem to lift in the front.
 

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Posted by J24I (Member # 2598) on :
 
Sorry to hear Dana. Post the videos up!
 

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Posted by WildFire532FB (Member # 1482) on :
 

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Originally posted by J24I:
Sorry to hear Dana. Post the videos up!

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Originally posted by g-ride14:
Who built the shortblock and tuned it?

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Originally posted by hidnn.o.s.:
AED got over 500 tuned out of it right? How much time passed from the tune to the track? Your MPH is SCARY low and that has VERY little to do with your 60 foots etc. Any clues Dana?

Your car is nicer than 99% of the cars out there Dana, take your time and come back stronger. I'd rather than your car in my garage with NO motor than I would my own 93......

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Originally posted by 93PONY:
I did not tune this car.
It was tuned on my dyno by another carb tuner.

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Originally posted by racsirx:
Did you miss a shift or was the clutch slipping?

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Originally posted by WildFire532FB:

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Originally posted by 93PONY:
I did not tune this car.
It was tuned on my dyno by another carb tuner.

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Don't worry AED had nothing to do with what happened or the guy that tuned it.
Hopefully it'll be on your dyno again with the same guy tuning it when its back together.

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Originally posted by hidnn.o.s.:

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Originally posted by WildFire532FB:

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Originally posted by 93PONY:
I did not tune this car.
It was tuned on my dyno by another carb tuner.

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Don't worry AED had nothing to do with what happened or the guy that tuned it.
Hopefully it'll be on your dyno again with the same guy tuning it when its back together.

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My question was how much time passed by out of curiousity

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Its been a while.
 

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Posted by 66_5.0 (Member # 9974) on :
 
Thats tough man, well take this time around to be very meticulous about the build. Not saying you weren't the first time but you can't be too careful.
 

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Posted by Camara90 (Member # 134) on :
 

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Originally posted by racsirx:
Did you miss a shift or was the clutch slipping?

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No i made all my shifts and the clutch didn't slip.
I really won't know what happened until i take the pan off and look.

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Originally posted by racsirx:
Did you miss a shift or was the clutch slipping?

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No i made all my shifts and the clutch didn't slip.
I really won't know what happened until i take the pan off and look.

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IDK it sounded like some major clutch slip on the big end. That could be the major issue with the MPH.

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Originally posted by racsirx:
Did you miss a shift or was the clutch slipping?

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No i made all my shifts and the clutch didn't slip.
I really won't know what happened until i take the pan off and look.

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IDK it sounded like some major clutch slip on the big end. That could be the major issue with the MPH.

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I think you were hearing he next car in line getting ready to go, not his car. Seriously, it sucks to hear this news Dana. Many of us have been along on the restoration ride for that car and we know the work that has gone into it.

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Sucks big time, not look forward to pulling it apart after its only been together for a year or so.

Yeah there is another car near the end of the video doing a burnout next to my dad and john who are filming.
 

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Posted by MauriSSio (Member # 9943) on :
 
is there still no oil pressure and still knocking even after the oil level went back to where it should???

i remember back when my brother did H/I/C on his 5.0 he went out for a quick drive and half way through it the engine started knocking, by the time we got to the house it sounded ugly. Anyways turned out the oil filter had fallen out and the car had no oil. We thought the engine was toast but he put a new filter and new oil in it and it ran fine, no knocking. Im sure a couple years wear on the bearings happened though but apparently not catastrophic.

maybe your oil pickup tube dislodged?? perhaps fixing something like that is all you need?? just some suggestions, hope it isnt completely dead?
 

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Posted by WildFire532FB (Member # 1482) on :
 
I haven't started it since the track, I was going to just to see what pressure I would have. Maybe I will do that tonight.
 

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Posted by MauriSSio (Member # 9943) on :
 
i dont know how it is on the small blocks but on the big block (385 series) there's a small chamfered/rounded-edged plug that goues in front off the engine. If that some how comes off, it results in zero oil pressure. If you put in a regular plug it also results in zero pressure. Im pretty sure thats not the problem on yours but maybe an oil gallery plug just happened to back out and thats how you lost pressure? still COULD be catastrophic but theres a chance the engine/bearings will be fine once pressure is reacquired......im just throwing shit out there, but the fact that you said you didnt see any oil level on the dipstick after the run and zero or extremely low oil pressure MIGHT mean that youre just having oil drainback issues. Ive never actually SEEN it but ive heard of some engines that have had issues like that and pretty much holding all the oil in the valve area/valve covers and taking a long time for the oil to come back down.

i guess the first thing i would do is to start the car and see what happens and check for oil pressure....its a mechanical gauge correct?? let us know what you find!

[ December 12, 2011, 09:37 AM: Message edited by: MauriSSio ]
 

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Posted by turbo50 (Member # 6700) on :
 

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Originally posted by MauriSSio:
i dont know how it is on the small blocks but on the big block (385 series) there's a small chamfered/rounded-edged plug that goues in front off the engine. If that some how comes off, it results in zero oil pressure. If you put in a regular plug it also results in zero pressure. Im pretty sure thats not the problem on yours but maybe an oil gallery plug just happened to back out and thats how you lost pressure? still COULD be catastrophic but theres a chance the engine/bearings will be fine once pressure is reacquired......im just throwing shit out there, but the fact that you said you didnt see any oil level on the dipstick after the run and zero or extremely low oil pressure MIGHT mean that youre just having oil drainback issues. Ive never actually SEEN it but ive heard of some engines that have had issues like that and pretty much holding all the oil in the valve area/valve covers and taking a long time for the oil to come back down.

i guess the first thing i would do is to start the car and see what happens and check for oil pressure....its a mechanical gauge correct?? let us know what you find!

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