This is topic for the gym guys in forum General Talk at Northern California Ford Owners  .


To visit this topic, use this URL:
https://californiafords.com/cgi-bin/ultimatebb.cgi?ubb=get_topic;f=1;t=046293

Posted by SHORTSHIFTER89 (Member # 7810) on :
 
I must be doing someing right at the gym. I had 2 guys this week get at me about D-BOL DECA ANAVAR. AKA THE JUICE. my girl even told me last night that i had a big back and she wanted to take a pic. wat da fezzie. trust me when i say im one of those guys that dont think i have any size at all. sometime in the gym yeah i look good ripped nice bulk strong ppl check me out lifting all the time or the weight i lift i think because of my small frame atleast i think im small. Im 6"4 230lbs trying to get to 235/240lbs. and use the everyday normal stack of supplements bsn stack or superpump/sizeon monster mass. anybody else got approched at the gym about gear? im not against it it has ran threw my mind afew times. alot of ppl is on the gear in my gym.
 
Posted by Slowback67 (Member # 6348) on :
 
I need to start workin out again....... I'm 5' 9" @ 170 and I would like to bulk up to 185-190. But I'll never take the juice. LOL.
 
Posted by trickflow211 (Member # 8503) on :
 
Ya forsure people ask me what I'm running before too ... I lost a lot of my muscle tho ... so im tryna get back to where I was ... never tookk gear but all my boys do so I got the hook up
 
Posted by SHORTSHIFTER89 (Member # 7810) on :
 
yea hard work and eating and training like hell is the way to go. and thats what i have been doing for years. you do reach a plato were you feel you cant grow anymore even when you change your workout. and after awhile off gym rats checking you out seeing you grow somebodys going to approch you about the gear. it happens
 
Posted by 86BackInBlack (Member # 5372) on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by SHORTSHIFTER89:
i think im small. Im 6"4 230lbs

Try being 5'5 160 [Razz]
 
Posted by SHORTSHIFTER89 (Member # 7810) on :
 
trick flow211. so you no what im talking about after you cycle off the normal supplements no/cell mass superpump sizeon jack3d you drop the waterweight and strenth alittile. but get it back after a month. and like you said you wanna get it back and in a hurry.lol thats the way of the gym. gear is the same way im very deep into the reasearch on the gear and no the risk. but to me both creatine and protien share danger like gear does. doing research protien has metal in it. creatine and gear will kill the liver if abused. but the oral gear will hurt you alot more then injectables. and i have friends i lift with that wanna do the gear too.
 
Posted by SEMPERFI510 (Member # 627) on :
 
I used to all the time since I had really wide shoulders and was 5'9" 225. I am letting my muscle wear down now too. Tired of being big!
 
Posted by bottled95GT?? (Member # 1772) on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by SEMPERFI510:
I used to all the time since I had really wide shoulders and was 5'9" 225. I am letting my muscle wear down now too. Tired of being big!

You wear it well though bud. When I was in shape I was 6'3 245-250 and had about a 54" chest. I'm 280 now and getting ready to cut about 60 lbs healthy.
 
Posted by SHORTSHIFTER89 (Member # 7810) on :
 
ha ha ha say bottled95gt can you throw that 60lbs my way. i no eating healthy is a very good thing but when your bulking like me and reading all the fourms and flex magazines it's okay to eat the fast food junk food like takeing fish oil fatty acides we need them.lol
 
Posted by SEMPERFI510 (Member # 627) on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by bottled95GT??:
quote:
Originally posted by SEMPERFI510:
I used to all the time since I had really wide shoulders and was 5'9" 225. I am letting my muscle wear down now too. Tired of being big!

You wear it well though bud. When I was in shape I was 6'3 245-250 and had about a 54" chest. I'm 280 now and getting ready to cut about 60 lbs healthy.
Thanks Joe. Too hard to find the right size shirts though! XLL shoulders with a med to large mid section.
 
Posted by essasin (Member # 4741) on :
 
You can tell the guys that are on a cycle. They don't plateau and their entire muscle mass doubles in such a short period of time. Half the time they look bloated.
 
Posted by Mach916 (Member # 8264) on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by SHORTSHIFTER89:
trick flow211. so you no what im talking about after you cycle off the normal supplements no/cell mass superpump sizeon jack3d you drop the waterweight and strenth alittile. but get it back after a month. and like you said you wanna get it back and in a hurry.lol thats the way of the gym. gear is the same way im very deep into the reasearch on the gear and no the risk. but to me both creatine and protien share danger like gear does. doing research protien has metal in it. creatine and gear will kill the liver if abused. but the oral gear will hurt you alot more then injectables. and i have friends i lift with that wanna do the gear too.

from what i think you said... your saying protein has metal in it? your confused my friend..protein doesnt have any metal..what i think your thinking of is fish.. fish has mercury in it which is a metal that is harful to you..
 
Posted by AbominableSnoman... (Member # 8290) on :
 
i lol'd when you said small frame.. hahaha.
im 5'6"!! before i started my health hype i was around 198-205lbs FAT! Started p90x, ate "healthy" and dropped to 180lbs, I got lazy and did it for only 3 mts.. I started hitting the gym tho, lifting light, and leaned out to 168lbs. Since then I decided i was way too short to be that skinny, and been stacking Jack3d, Myofusion, and 100% whey. Im at a walking weight of 178-180lbs muscle mass.. not sure about D-BOL DECA ANAVAR, but sounds like that thing works!!
 
Posted by wilit (Member # 3367) on :
 
I've been hittin' the gym too. Here I am all swoll after a workout.

 -
 
Posted by nasty93 (Member # 8935) on :
 
my friend uses that Barry bonds cream..says its workin hella good..in my opinion tho i say keep it natural..doin juice is just temporary.why try an be somethin u aint.hard work gets the best results anyway.aint no short cuts in life...
 
Posted by WildFire532FB (Member # 1482) on :
 
When i was big into bodybuilding and weighted 230 i got approached about gear. Now i am 200 trying to get to 185.

6'4" 230 isn't a small frame.
 
Posted by 98z28 (Member # 8408) on :
 
Ha ha when I got into real hard In early high school I was 126 an benched 210! Yes I said 126 about 5.4-5.5 lol... That was alot of weight for my little ass an I was still fighting featherweight so I was pretty ripped little mighty mouse! Lol..

I'm now 165-170 a little muscle left but mostly beer an fast food!!! Lol..

[ February 24, 2011, 09:54 PM: Message edited by: 98z28 ]
 
Posted by 50Reasons (Member # 6452) on :
 
Just got back in the gym recently and weighed in at 211lbs at 6' tall so I need to lose 15 lbs and I need to bulk up a little useing l glutinous powder advance calcium and recovery and high protien shakes all apex so yes I know it's the weak stuff but also FDA approved and it's safe. I'm not an engine once you blow your motor ("heart") it's a done deal so I try to keep it as natural as I can so yea I've always been afraid of the juice so I stay clear of that stuff . But yes I've also been approached about Gear it just means your doing something right and it clearly shows that so kudos to you for staying off that mess
 
Posted by SHORTSHIFTER89 (Member # 7810) on :
 
We purchased 15 protein powders and drinks mainly in the New York metro area or online and tested multiple samples of each for arsenic, cadmium, lead, and mercury. The results showed a considerable range, but levels in three products were of particular concern because consuming three servings a day could result in daily exposure to arsenic, cadmium, or lead exceeding the limits proposed by USP.

We found that three daily servings of the ready-to-drink liquid EAS Myoplex Original Rich Dark Chocolate Shake provides an average of 16.9 micrograms (µg) of arsenic, exceeding the proposed USP limit of 15 µg per day, and an average of 5.1 µg of cadmium, which is just above the USP limit of 5 µg per day. Concentrations in most products were relatively low, but when taking into account the large serving size suggested, the number of micrograms per day for a few of the products was high compared with most others tested.

The samples of Muscle Milk Chocolate powder we tested contained all four heavy metals, and levels of three metals in the product were among the highest of all in our tests. Average cadmium levels of 5.6 µg in three daily servings slightly exceeded the USP limit of 5 µg per day, and the average lead level of 13.5 µg also topped the USP limit of 10 µg per day. The average arsenic level of 12.2 µg was approaching the USP limit of 15 µg per day, and the average for mercury was 0.7 µg, well below the USP's 15 µg-per-day limit. Three daily servings of Muscle Milk Vanilla Crème contained 12.2 µg of lead, exceeding lead limits, and 11.2 µg of arsenic. A fourth product, Muscle Milk Nutritional Shake Chocolate (liquid), provided an average of 14.3 µg of arsenic per day from three servings, approaching the proposed USP limit.

Cadmium raises special concern because it accumulates in and can damage the kidneys, the same organs that can be damaged by excessive protein consumption. And it can take 20 years for the body to eliminate even half the cadmium absorbed today.

"This is a highly toxic metal, and while there are some cases where decisions have to be weighed against relative risks, accepting that you have to be exposed to any cadmium at all in your protein drink after your workout is definitely not one of them," says Michael Harbut, M.D., director of the Environmental Cancer Initiative at the Karmanos Cancer Institute in Royal Oak, Mich.

"When these toxic heavy metals are combined in a product that is marketed for daily use, that raises serious public health concerns, especially for pregnant women, children, and young adults," says Burns, who has been a toxicology consultant to state and federal government agencies.

For most people, protein drinks are not the only possible source of exposure to heavy metals, but they are an easily avoidable one, since most people can meet their protein needs, help minimize exposure to contaminants, and save money by choosing the right foods.

Shellfish and organ meats such as liver can be high in cadmium, and some plant foods such as potatoes, rice, sunflower seeds, spinach, and other leafy greens can also take in significant amounts of the metal from the environment, due in large part to the use of cadmium-containing phosphate fertilizers, according to Bruce A. Fowler, a researcher at the federal Agency for Toxic Substances and Disease Registry. Food and Drug Administration research suggests that foods such as milk, yogurt, eggs, poultry, and red meats are generally good protein sources that seem to contain little or no cadmium, lead, arsenic, or mercury. For perspective about the relative risks exposure to those metals can pose, consider the agency's list of 275 hazardous substances at toxic waste sites: Arsenic, lead, and mercury rank Nos. 1, 2, and 3, and cadmium is No. 7, based on risks to people around those sites.

Robert Wright, M.D., an associate professor at Harvard Medical School, who is conducting research on the health effects of exposure to toxic metals, says, "Small amounts of exposure are inevitable, but a product that exceeds the USP limit is clearly doing something wrong."

Being exposed simultaneously to a mixture of toxins can also potentially increase health risks, particularly when they target the same organs or systems, as some metals we detected do, according to Harbut. He says that this is the result of a synergistic effect, meaning the effects of two toxic substances together can be even greater than those of the sum of the two, and not enough research has been done to determine whether that occurs from multiple exposures to even relatively low levels of those heavy metals.

__________________
____________
______
 
Posted by 86BackInBlack (Member # 5372) on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by 98z28:
Ha ha when I got into real hard In early high school I was 126 an benched 210! Yes I said 126 about 5.4-5.5 lol... That was alot of weight for my little ass an I was still fighting featherweight so I was pretty ripped little mighty mouse! Lol..

I'm now 165-170 a little muscle left but mostly beer an fast food!!! Lol..

LOL what he said
 
Posted by MauriSSio (Member # 9943) on :
 
gear? its not that hard to say "steroids!"
 
Posted by crazyhorse (Member # 5662) on :
 
I dont understand how protein can have harmful ingredients when its derived from cheese/milk product. I think anything in excess can be harmful to your body. I take 100%whey from ON, and 5g. creatine monohydrate and make sure its creapure creatine which is made in Germany and more pure than the cheaper chinese creatine.
 
Posted by SHOalex (Member # 7720) on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by SHORTSHIFTER89:
trust me when i say im one of those guys that dont think i have any size at all.

Is that why your name is "SHORTSHIFTER89" lo?l:confused: [Big Grin] [dance]
 
Posted by OneFastNotch. (Member # 9537) on :
 
yeah im about 5'6 155lbs benching 315 squatin 455. alot of people think im on the juice but honestly its just motivation

[ February 25, 2011, 04:56 PM: Message edited by: OneFastNotch. ]
 
Posted by SHORTSHIFTER89 (Member # 7810) on :
 
that is what keeps me going dedication motivation. and i like when im back arming them 45plates on the bench 15 to 20 reps i like when pple tell me thats there max on the bench.lol stuff like that really gets me going. but my advice for ppl in the gym. if you see somebody with 3 or 4 plates on the bench incline or decline please dont ask him how many setts he has left. that dude is in the zone [dance]
 
Posted by crazyhorse (Member # 5662) on :
 
for those who frequent the gym, you know the characters that walk in there everyday, watch this vid, no matter where you go you can relate i bet
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SnstNnqYp2M
 
Posted by SHORTSHIFTER89 (Member # 7810) on :
 
ha ha ha crazyhorse that was helllla funny. i like the showoff and the screamer.lol i no you gotta crawl before you walk but dammm.lol what about the guys that want you to spot them on the bench with only 10lbs on each side can you beleave that it happens at my gym. thats a funny video
 
Posted by dubfive-0 (Member # 8965) on :
 
funny & crazy stuff happens @ my Gym too [Big Grin] [Big Grin] [burnout]
 
Posted by OneFastNotch. (Member # 9537) on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by SHORTSHIFTER89:
that is what keeps me going dedication motivation. and i like when im back arming them 45plates on the bench 15 to 20 reps i like when pple tell me thats there max on the bench.lol stuff like that really gets me going. but my advice for ppl in the gym. if you see somebody with 3 or 4 plates on the bench incline or decline please dont ask him how many setts he has left. that dude is in the zone [dance]

well said.
 
Posted by C6Z06s_own_50Deep (Member # 5888) on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by OneFastNotch.:
yeah im about 5'6 155lbs benching 315 squatin 455. alot of people think im on the juice but honestly its just motivation

hahahaha...your bench is close to being a national record for your weight....I would love to see that....
 
Posted by Snakezilla (Member # 9553) on :
 
If you are considering ROIDs you should watch the movie BIGGER STRONGER FASTER. Roids arent as bad as people think, but I still refuse to use them...
 
Posted by 50Reasons (Member # 6452) on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by crazyhorse:
for those who frequent the gym, you know the characters that walk in there everyday, watch this vid, no matter where you go you can relate i bet
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SnstNnqYp2M

That is so funny!
 
Posted by SF Coupe (Member # 1810) on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by Snakezilla:
If you are considering ROIDs you should watch the movie BIGGER STRONGER FASTER. Roids arent as bad as people think, but I still refuse to use them...

I just watched this movie. It has a different perspective on roids. What I found interesting was that supplements are not regulated by the FDA. Manufacturers can put a bunch of useless crap in them and cleverly word the label to fool gym rats who think they know about nutrition because they took a couple of classes at the local juco.
 
Posted by SHORTSHIFTER89 (Member # 7810) on :
 
oh yes sf coupe we all have threw away alot of money on supplements before we learned the truth. when i opened my eyes and closed my wallet i went back to basic's pre workout postwork protien and food. heavey weight
 
Posted by phil a (Member # 6951) on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by OneFastNotch.:
yeah im about 5'6 155lbs benching 315 squatin 455. alot of people think im on the juice but honestly its just motivation

You really parallel squat 3x your body weight?

You sure?

If so, I'm more than impressed
 
Posted by SHORTSHIFTER89 (Member # 7810) on :
 
roids are super hard to find these days yes they work yes your body grows super fast in no time. yes they do harm to some ppl but that $10 gees i put under my hood is killing me and my environment.lol oil leak gas tranny antifreez you name it it's dripped outa my car.lol i need to cycle that bad boy or throw some pct in it. novadex or clomid. ha ha trying to keep those gains
 
Posted by losbadgts (Member # 4394) on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by SHORTSHIFTER89:
oh yes sf coupe we all have threw away alot of money on supplements before we learned the truth. when i opened my eyes and closed my wallet i went back to basic's pre workout postwork protien and food. heavey weight

Oh yes thats the real truth, i use hit the gym hard before to lose weight and just to get fit and all natural too, i see some of my friends get stupid big in less than a year, but they take so much shit and since all those supplements are not fda approved how do what is really going into your body.
 
Posted by phil a (Member # 6951) on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by SHORTSHIFTER89:
roids are super hard to find these days yes they work yes your body grows super fast in no time. yes they do harm to some ppl but that $10 gees i put under my hood is killing me and my environment.lol oil leak gas tranny antifreez you name it it's dripped outa my car.lol i need to cycle that bad boy or throw some pct in it. novadex or clomid. ha ha trying to keep those gains

Wait - aren't you the same guy who just PMd me earlier today looking for steroids for your 'medical condition'?? [Confused]

You really didn't think that I might read through some of the recent posts in General Talk?

And no, just because I happen to know about steroids and understand the way they work doesn't mean I purchase them, sell them, or know of anywhere you can buy them.
 
Posted by SHORTSHIFTER89 (Member # 7810) on :
 
yes i am. the gear is called deca it's for your joints it also was in the shot that my doctor gave me last month and since i only get 2 shots a year im always on the lookout for a hook up online or were ever i could find it. it's a life condition for me and my hips the only other solution is a hip replacement and the doc said im way to young for that. thats the only reason for the pm.
 
Posted by NEIGHT (Member # 8741) on :
 
lol small!? 6'4"!?

I'm only 5'7"-5'8" 140 lbs
 
Posted by SHORTSHIFTER89 (Member # 7810) on :
 
and like i said before i also did my research talked to my doctor and some of the doctors i work with in the ER and some of the doctors that go's to the gym with me.
 
Posted by SHORTSHIFTER89 (Member # 7810) on :
 
wut i meant by small neight is as hard as i workout in the gym to me i dont seem to be growing anymore.lol im still 6'4 230lb. because of my bad hipps even with the shot i dont squat to much but i do the other leg work. anybody on this site with osteo arthritites no's wut im going threw when it comes to pain in the hips and cant walk sometimes because of the pain or lay down in bed. not to mention going on long trips trying to get out the car and walk need a wheelchair
 
Posted by Pure Stang (Member # 7251) on :
 
I'm just starting to get into working out again. Trying to get back to my 170 and atleast get my bench back up to 285. Forgot how hard this shit is lol.
 
Posted by WildFire532FB (Member # 1482) on :
 
When i was consistently lifting i got up to 230lbs i am 6'2" Was doing the 130lb dumbbells.
Last winter i couldn't run or hike cause of my knee dislocation so i started lifting again and i got back to doing the 130lb dumbbells again but this time i was 200lbs. [Eek!] Muscle memory. I only lift some during the winter time.
I just wanna get down to 185lbs and stay that way. Just need to run and hike more.

[ September 08, 2011, 10:50 PM: Message edited by: WildFire532FB ]
 
Posted by gohardgohome (Member # 9803) on :
 
I try not to take any "juice" or stuff like that.. I just stick to my omega 3, whey protein, and water [Smile] I'm 6'1 and 220lbs.. I remember I used to be 6foot and 160lbs with long hair. Haha!!! Imagine that..looking like a mop. Stay natural! N just let ur motivation take over not da "juice"
 
Posted by gray03gt (Member # 6427) on :
 
What's the point of this thread? Did you just go to the gym and get your first compliment? You don't need 10 diff legal supplements nor steroids. One thing like jacked or a similar product and hard work will get you stronger than most people in the gym. But you likely don't work hard and post on a car site about how men like your looks to reassure that you are not indeed a homo.
 
Posted by WildFire532FB (Member # 1482) on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by gohardgohome:
I try not to take any "juice" or stuff like that.. I just stick to my omega 3, whey protein, and water [Smile] I'm 6'1 and 220lbs.. I remember I used to be 6foot and 160lbs with long hair. Haha!!! Imagine that..looking like a mop. Stay natural! N just let ur motivation take over not da "juice"

in high school i weight 140lbs lol.
 
Posted by Sic Wit it 50 (Member # 4119) on :
 
I'm 6'2" since freshman year n high school always weighed in at 160-190lbs ryte now iam 185lbs never got into the gym till now I wanna work out any solutions were to start at thanx
 
Posted by 87MclarenMustang (Member # 10695) on :
 
 -
I take these 3 on a daily basis based on what my personal trainers advice. From what I've read, your saying these will have an adverse effect on my health?
 
Posted by blackfifty (Member # 9023) on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by SHORTSHIFTER89:
trick flow211. so you no what im talking about after you cycle off the normal supplements no/cell mass superpump sizeon jack3d you drop the waterweight and strenth alittile. but get it back after a month. and like you said you wanna get it back and in a hurry.lol thats the way of the gym. gear is the same way im very deep into the reasearch on the gear and no the risk. but to me both creatine and protien share danger like gear does. doing research protien has metal in it. creatine and gear will kill the liver if abused. but the oral gear will hurt you alot more then injectables. and i have friends i lift with that wanna do the gear too.

I am shocked you say that, really? Protein with metal in it huh? Bro you seem like you know what your doing since your "back is so huge" but steroids will shrink your balls and kill your organs. Protein is the building block for growing muscle and creatine just holds excess water in your system. I'm not big like you but i've been lifting for three years now I'm about 5'11 175 lbs at 6% body fat and i've never taken any steroid, growth hormones, or test boosters. I've only taken whey protein isolate, multi vitamin, pre workout and vitamin C all that other crap is just excessive.
 
Posted by a302juGRnuat (Member # 10163) on :
 
lol 5'4" and 160...its ok tho cuz im asian.
 
Posted by 98 ROUSH (Member # 10309) on :
 
This is my Aunt Rebecca. She been working out sence i could remember [patriot]

 -
 
Posted by 98 ROUSH (Member # 10309) on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by 98 ROUSH:
This is my Aunt Rebecca. She been working out sence i could remember [patriot]

 -

LOL!!!
 
Posted by SAV650HAB (Member # 10324) on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by 98 ROUSH:
quote:
Originally posted by 98 ROUSH:
This is my Aunt Rebecca. She been working out sence i could remember [patriot]

 -

LOL!!!
HAHAHAHAHAHA [worship] shes a beast lol............
 




Fueled by Ford Mustang Owners
on CaliforniaFords.com