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Posted by NastyFastNotch (Member # 8230) on :
 
So...ive done all there is to do with a 302 and im bored now. Im looking to drop either an LS1 or Cobra swap in my 90' notchback. Any suggestions, specs, horror storys??? let me know what you guys think, cost is not an issue just practicality, power and reliability.

thanks

btw lets keep the clawing to a minimum ladies, if u dont like someones opinion, start your own thread about it
 

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Posted by 90FoX (Member # 1974) on :
 
is this a serious post or what?
 

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Posted by BladeX10 (Member # 9444) on :
 
ls1 would be cool and different
 

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Posted by NEIGHT (Member # 8741) on :
 

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Originally posted by 90FoX:
is this a serious post or what?

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Its like saying "should I be gay or straight"
MAS PUTO
 

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Posted by 90FoX (Member # 1974) on :
 
the answer is simple follow this guideline and all will be well:

If your gay and like men, put in a ls1.

If your not gay and like women, put a ford motor in a ford.



[ December 09, 2010, 03:56 AM: Message edited by: 90FoX ]
 

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Posted by Nastysvt (Member # 6431) on :
 
Dont listen to everyone else. if u wanna go fast, go with whatever you really want and is the cheapest to do. 347 w/n20, 03-04 cobra swap w/blower, Built LS2 or LS3 w/n20 would be my choices. all those are guaranteed 11 sec. set ups
 

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Posted by 5LiterSpeeder (Member # 8234) on :
 
Termi motor would be siiiick. My buddy lives in Texas and he says at a local once a month car show there, there is a dude with a turboed 03/04 cobra swapped notchback that is f**kin bad ass. So my vote for sure.
 

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Posted by 99 blue bird (Member # 10367) on :
 

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Originally posted by BladeX10:
ls1 would be cool and different

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Originally posted by venomous99:
skip the mustang platform altogether..
a crazy idea ive been considering is picking up a 93 or 94 rx7 w/ an ls1 or better conversion.

light car with a pretty damn stout motor.

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Originally posted by Luke87GT:

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Originally posted by venomous99:
skip the mustang platform altogether..
a crazy idea ive been considering is picking up a 93 or 94 rx7 w/ an ls1 or better conversion.

light car with a pretty damn stout motor.

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Pics? Also what does it weigh?

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here is one from socal for under 12k. it needs some minor attention cosmetically and on smog to get it where id b happy.

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-factory stock 15K mile 2002 F-body LS1 and T56 with CAGS delete and lowered fan activation temperatures done via HP Tuners. Factory programming is otherwise untouched.

-Hinson subframe mounts and bump steer correction

-2 ½” mandrel-bent true dual exhaust system using factory F-body cats, Edelbrock stainless mufflers

-3.90 rear end

-stock functioning power steering

-AFCO aluminum radiator

-SPAL 2360cfm puller fan

-custom made 4” cold air intake with K&N filter

-Aeromotive A1000-6 fuel pressure regulator with braided SS lines

-bin mounted battery, behind driver, 0 gauge cables

-Lokar throttle cable

-new pillow ball bushings

-the sale includes a replacement dash and glove box all in excellent condition to replace the gauge-relieved dash that you see in the pics

-sale includes a full set of Carbotech Bobcat brake pads, never installed

-all of the gauges and electronics work other than what is described below

In addition to the paint deficiencies noted above, here are some other items that I want to disclose:



-needs new tires

-speedo not connected

-A/C is not connected (I never installed a condenser after the swap), the LS1 still has the compressor installed

-missing rear divider and strut tower bar (I cannot find these items and I have looked everywhere???…assume they are missing). The driver’s side armrest lid is missing and the pillar post upholstery has been cut.

-ABS dash light is flashing, have never looked into this

-MIL is on – this is due to EVAP tank pressure sensor not being connected. I never deleted this code as I had intended to use all of the factory EVAP sensors. This is an easy code delete if one desires.

-the factory Mazda oil pressure sender has quit working (just like all the others…) since I first did the conversion. I have recently verified that the LS1 is running 50+ psi at idle via a mechanical gauge.

-the hatch is either from a non-touring car, or a previous owner ran a spoiler which I do not have

-the posts for the headlight pop up switch appear to have broken (see pic) on the backside of the dash surround. The headlights operate perfectly through the regular column switch.

-the car is NOT smog-legal in California and there is no BAR sticker. It is currently non-op’d and there are no fees due at the DMV. AFAIK, a single exhaust, EVAP tank pressure, AIR, stock air intake and a Corvette FPR are all that would be required to get through a BAR referee, but I haven’t really looked into this in greater detail.

In summary, this is a turn-key, running , driving car that is a plain Jane conversion with a low mileage drivetrain and a really nice exhaust system using factory cats which will make a smog-legal conversion easy to do, if one desires. The engine and transmission have never been seperated, I have literally never turned a bolt on the intake or exhaust manifolds, accessories, etc. Drive it as is, or build it as you see fit. I have disclosed the car’s condition, features and defects to the best of my knowledge. There are more than 60 pictures posted at http://www.flickr.com/photos/48294349@N05/sets/72157623602431508/. Price is $11,900.
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at that price i dont think u can find a better deal but the reality is you'd probably spend another 3-5k to finish it up which then makes is another "project" lol. ive talked myself out of this project many times already and have decided to pass for something either completed or that "other" car ive always wanted.

rx7's are about 2600lbs stock so w/ the ls1 maybe its +200lbs which will throw off the 50/50 weigh ratio.

[ December 09, 2010, 11:04 AM: Message edited by: venomous99 ]
 

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Posted by 94 N.C.F. GT (Member # 3946) on :
 
Twin turbo terminator ftw
 

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Posted by cali95gt (Member # 8940) on :
 
the new 4v 5.0 would be nice..
 

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Posted by NastyFastNotch (Member # 8230) on :
 

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Originally posted by venomous99:
skip the mustang platform altogether..
a crazy idea ive been considering is picking up a 93 or 94 rx7 w/ an ls1 or better conversion.

light car with a pretty damn stout motor.

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Originally posted by cali95gt:
the new 4v 5.0 would be nice..

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Posted by BobbyLight_08svt (Member # 9548) on :
 
keep the mustang with a 302 in and buy an old school chevy if you want to do a LS swap
 

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Posted by 90fox5.0 (Member # 9338) on :
 

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Originally posted by BladeX10:
ls1 would be cool and different

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+1 supercharged ls1 would bee nice
 

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Posted by 94 N.C.F. GT (Member # 3946) on :
 

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Originally posted by cali95gt:
the new 4v 5.0 would be nice..

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you said money is not a worry so this would be perfect
keep it ford powered
 

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Posted by venomous99 (Member # 1917) on :
 

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Originally posted by NastyFastNotch:

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Originally posted by venomous99:
skip the mustang platform altogether..
a crazy idea ive been considering is picking up a 93 or 94 rx7 w/ an ls1 or better conversion.

light car with a pretty damn stout motor.

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my buddy in hayward has 1993 rx7 with a built LS2 h/c/i and that thing hauls ass!!! almost scary

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man...i want one. too bad th
e ones i see for sale locally are overpriced given whats needed to finish them up and the ls1/t56 combo. an ls2 rx7 is insane.
 

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Posted by 90fox5.0 (Member # 9338) on :
 
Just like my sig said built ford tough with chevy stuff
 

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Posted by Slowback67 (Member # 6348) on :
 
Why not build a 351 stroker and call it a day?
 

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Posted by 90fox5.0 (Member # 9338) on :
 
Do soming like this looks real good http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=youtube_gdata_player&v=qMRvg_p6K54
 

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Posted by 510cpskid (Member # 8277) on :
 
damn cafords is gonna have more tranni's than sf
 

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Posted by NEIGHT (Member # 8741) on :
 

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Originally posted by Slowback67:
Why not build a 351 stroker and call it a day?

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Originally posted by 50Reasons:
Realy mess with people and do a ls3 in a 03' cobra and sell the cobra stuff that would really mess with peoples heads

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Originally posted by venomous99:

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Originally posted by NastyFastNotch:

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Originally posted by venomous99:
skip the mustang platform altogether..
a crazy idea ive been considering is picking up a 93 or 94 rx7 w/ an ls1 or better conversion.

light car with a pretty damn stout motor.

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my buddy in hayward has 1993 rx7 with a built LS2 h/c/i and that thing hauls ass!!! almost scary

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man...i want one. too bad th
e ones i see for sale locally are overpriced given whats needed to finish them up and the ls1/t56 combo. an ls2 rx7 is insane.

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Originally posted by 50Reasons:
Realy mess with people and do a ls3 in a 03' cobra and sell the cobra stuff that would really mess with peoples heads

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+100000 I would bee hell weak if some one did this u know how many cafords ppl would hate on it lmao

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I'd kick them in the head to straighten them out
 

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Posted by venomous99 (Member # 1917) on :
 
rx7 w/ an ls6
as much as i like lsx motors, id prefer putting it in anything other than a mustang just cuz these are rival cars.



 

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Posted by Nastysvt (Member # 6431) on :
 

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Originally posted by NEIGHT:
Only respect I have for chevys is their old schools other than that they should be driven from the dealer to the junk yard ya dig

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Originally posted by Nastysvt:

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Originally posted by NEIGHT:
Only respect I have for chevys is their old schools other than that they should be driven from the dealer to the junk yard ya dig

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what about the Z06s and ZR1's..I hope you jus forgot them and not calling it junk too..

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Theres only few that have exceptions I just didn't wanna list them only maros would be old school and 2010
 

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Posted by BULLITTMAN (Member # 8468) on :
 
If money is not a problem I say go Coyote 5.0, if not go with the Cobra 4V ...
 

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Posted by 99 blue bird (Member # 10367) on :
 

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Originally posted by 90fox5.0:
Do soming like this looks real good http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=youtube_gdata_player&v=qMRvg_p6K54

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Originally posted by NEIGHT:
Only respect I have for chevys is their old schools other than that they should be driven from the dealer to the junk yard ya dig

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Originally posted by 510cpskid:
damn cafords is gonna have more tranni's than sf

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Posted by 98z28 (Member # 8408) on :
 
Ls1 no question about it!!
 

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Posted by Sonic96GT (Member # 9594) on :
 
Yea. I'm not a big fan on ls motors in mustangs. But I could care less. It's your own decision. Go with what you want, who cares what others think. It'll problably be a lot cheaper than building a 347 or 351 since there are so many ls motors around. But to answer your question it really depends on your future plans. If you plan to go boost, a 03/04 cobra block comes forged. If you want to make a N/A monster the the ls1 would be a better choice.
 

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Posted by Luke87GT (Member # 21) on :
 
Alex, that red LS1 RX7 is a cool project no doubt. However, it looks like it will need little nick-nacks addressed here and there, paint, suspension work, and wheels at a minimum. I think when it's all said and done and you have it where you would want it, you would also easily be $8-10K deep on top of the purchase price.

That car also screams hack job to me. You'd be discovering surprises for months to come imho.
 

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Posted by Luke87GT (Member # 21) on :
 
But man, LS1 RX7 is pretty badass!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ybPYjU1Be_M

The shape of these cars is stunning!







http://209.177.55.37/images/rx7/94fdls1/ramonclean2.jpg

Alex, what about buying a engineless E46 shell and doing an LS6/T56 BMW!

http://www.engineswapdepot.com/?p=590



Alex, if you pulled this off, you would be my hero, lol http://www.heiser.net/projects/RX-7.0.html

[ December 10, 2010, 02:52 AM: Message edited by: Luke87GT ]
 

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Posted by ISP89LX (Member # 8949) on :
 
Just out of curiosity are there any good reputable shops in the bay area that can do a termi swap in a fox? I'm curious what would kinda be the price range for that?
 

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Posted by fastgms-lsnova (Member # 9411) on :
 
Doing a garbed 383 cam only ls1 coupe rite now. Like the foxbody style and know a lil about the ls motors. Backed by a glide should be fun.. I say ls motor all the way the k member tranny mount and motor mount is 5hun it's not that bad..
 

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Posted by ISP89LX (Member # 8949) on :
 

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Originally posted by fastgms-lsnova:
Doing a garbed 383 cam only ls1 coupe rite now. Like the foxbody style and know a lil about the ls motors. Backed by a glide should be fun.. I say ls motor all the way the k member tranny mount and motor mount is 5hun it's not that bad..

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Originally posted by fastgms-lsnova:
Doing a garbed 383 cam only ls1 coupe rite now. Like the foxbody style and know a lil about the ls motors. Backed by a glide should be fun.. I say ls motor all the way the k member tranny mount and motor mount is 5hun it's not that bad..

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I've seen them pull some good numbers for sure in coupes, I would love to see the car when its done, lmk.

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Originally posted by ISP89LX:

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Originally posted by fastgms-lsnova:
Doing a garbed 383 cam only ls1 coupe rite now. Like the foxbody style and know a lil about the ls motors. Backed by a glide should be fun.. I say ls motor all the way the k member tranny mount and motor mount is 5hun it's not that bad..

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I've seen them pull some good numbers for sure in coupes, I would love to see the car when its done, lmk.

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Originally posted by fastgms-lsnova:

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Originally posted by ISP89LX:

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Originally posted by fastgms-lsnova:
Doing a garbed 383 cam only ls1 coupe rite now. Like the foxbody style and know a lil about the ls motors. Backed by a glide should be fun.. I say ls motor all the way the k member tranny mount and motor mount is 5hun it's not that bad..

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I've seen them pull some good numbers for sure in coupes, I would love to see the car when its done, lmk.

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O if your from sj you'll see me breaking in the motor real soon. Hopfully within the month.. You'll see a nice big
FAST GM'S sticker on the back

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