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Posted by kingroy (Member # 7736) on :
 
Mickael Vick, Dogfighting - 23 months

Plaxico Buress, violation of New York's gun law -20 months

Lil Boosie, Drug possession - 2 years

Greg Skrepenak's, bribery - 2 years

William Viehi, released 650 mink in South Jordan, Utah - 2 years

Johannas Mehserle, Man slaughter - 2 years.

Something is definitly wrong with the system. But I guess it works for somebody.
 
Posted by 707notchback (Member # 7958) on :
 
fuck the system..basically you get off easy with a badge
 
Posted by WildFire532FB (Member # 1482) on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by 707notchback:
fuck the system..basically you get off easy with a badge

Micheal Vick had a badge?
 
Posted by 707notchback (Member # 7958) on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by WildFire532FB:
quote:
Originally posted by 707notchback:
fuck the system..basically you get off easy with a badge

Micheal Vick had a badge?
no the cop did..lol
 
Posted by WildFire532FB (Member # 1482) on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by 707notchback:
quote:
Originally posted by WildFire532FB:
quote:
Originally posted by 707notchback:
fuck the system..basically you get off easy with a badge

Micheal Vick had a badge?
no the cop did..lol
Yeah i know. Just showing you that your statement had nothing to do with what the post was about.
 
Posted by Krz88lx (Member # 4261) on :
 
Johannas Mehserle. And 2yrs only is some fucked up shit...
 
Posted by 707notchback (Member # 7958) on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by WildFire532FB:
quote:
Originally posted by 707notchback:
quote:
Originally posted by WildFire532FB:
quote:
Originally posted by 707notchback:
fuck the system..basically you get off easy with a badge

Micheal Vick had a badge?
no the cop did..lol
Yeah i know. Just showing you that your statement had nothing to do with what the post was about.
all the other crimes were very small to get damn near the same amount of time as the officers..all im sayin [Wink]
 
Posted by WildFire532FB (Member # 1482) on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by 707notchback:
quote:
Originally posted by WildFire532FB:
quote:
Originally posted by 707notchback:
quote:
Originally posted by WildFire532FB:
quote:
Originally posted by 707notchback:
fuck the system..basically you get off easy with a badge

Micheal Vick had a badge?
no the cop did..lol
Yeah i know. Just showing you that your statement had nothing to do with what the post was about.
all the other crimes were very small to get damn near the same amount of time as the officers..all im sayin [Wink]
I would have given Micheal Vick 5 years.
 
Posted by 90FoX (Member # 1974) on :
 
fuck vick and the NFL [Mad] [BS flag]
 
Posted by sydewayzLX50 (Member # 10217) on :
 
everybody talks about the officer and fails to realize that when a cop tells you to comply and you dont they have to prepare for worst case scenario. if he had listened to the officers he would still be alive today. we as society grant officers who at times put their lives at risk for us the authority to make split second decisions like mehserle did. unfortunately their decisions are not always correct. everyone gets caught up on black and white and the media feeds off this crap to sell papers and want to make it worse. witnesses even said that he genuinely looked suprised when the gun went off. bottom line is, people look at the controversy and lose focus on the reality of the situation. if he hadnt been causing trouble, or complied with authority in the first place, he would still be alive. god rest his soul i wish death upon nobody but he caused it. and i somewhat agree with the judges decision, maybe a little harsh but not ridiculous either. and the difference between vick and mehserle is that vick was intentionally killing in cold blood, even if its dogs. im sure people will hate me for this post, i am in no way a racist, i look at the situation not the persons background

[ November 05, 2010, 10:19 PM: Message edited by: sydewayzLX50 ]
 
Posted by Tashas_c0upe (Member # 8969) on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by sydewayzLX50:
everybody talks about the officer and fails to realize that when a cop tells you to comply and you dont they have to prepare for worst case scenario. if he had listened to the officers he would still be alive today. we as society grant officers who at times put their lives at risk for us the authority to make split second decisions like mehserle did. unfortunately their decisions are not always correct. everyone gets caught up on black and white and the media feeds off this crap to sell papers and want to make it worse. witnesses even said that he genuinely looked suprised when the gun went off. bottom line is, people look at the controversy and lose focus on the reality of the situation. if he hadnt been causing trouble, or complied with authority in the first place, he would still be alive. god rest his soul i wish death upon nobody but he caused it. and i somewhat agree with the judges decision, maybe a little harsh but not ridiculous either. and the difference between vick and mehserle is that vick was intentionally killing in cold blood, even if its dogs. im sure people will hate me for this post, i am in no way a racist, i look at the situation not the persons background

YOU MUST HAVE NOT SEEN THE VIDEO AND IF YOU HAVE YOU ARE BLIND... WHAT MORE DOES AN OFFICER NEED??? HE HAD HIS BACK UP THERE, OSCAR WAS ALREADY ON THE GROUND WITH MEHSERLE'S KNEE ON HIS KNECK WHY EVEN TASE HIM FOR THERE WAS NO NEED... AND AIN'T NO WAY A GUN WEIGHS AS MUCH AS A 9MM HE KNEW WTF HE WAS DOING...
 
Posted by Mineralgt (Member # 9909) on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by sydewayzLX50:
everybody talks about the officer and fails to realize that when a cop tells you to comply and you dont they have to prepare for worst case scenario. if he had listened to the officers he would still be alive today. we as society grant officers who at times put their lives at risk for us the authority to make split second decisions like mehserle did. unfortunately their decisions are not always correct. everyone gets caught up on black and white and the media feeds off this crap to sell papers and want to make it worse. witnesses even said that he genuinely looked suprised when the gun went off. bottom line is, people look at the controversy and lose focus on the reality of the situation. if he hadnt been causing trouble, or complied with authority in the first place, he would still be alive. god rest his soul i wish death upon nobody but he caused it. and i somewhat agree with the judges decision, maybe a little harsh but not ridiculous either. and the difference between vick and mehserle is that vick was intentionally killing in cold blood, even if its dogs. im sure people will hate me for this post, i am in no way a racist, i look at the situation not the persons background

Im am behind you 100% for this very well said bro
[worship]
 
Posted by hidnn.o.s. (Member # 1219) on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by sydewayzLX50:
everybody talks about the officer and fails to realize that when a cop tells you to comply and you dont they have to prepare for worst case scenario. if he had listened to the officers he would still be alive today. we as society grant officers who at times put their lives at risk for us the authority to make split second decisions like mehserle did. unfortunately their decisions are not always correct. everyone gets caught up on black and white and the media feeds off this crap to sell papers and want to make it worse. witnesses even said that he genuinely looked suprised when the gun went off. bottom line is, people look at the controversy and lose focus on the reality of the situation. if he hadnt been causing trouble, or complied with authority in the first place, he would still be alive. god rest his soul i wish death upon nobody but he caused it. and i somewhat agree with the judges decision, maybe a little harsh but not ridiculous either. i am in no way a racist, i look at the situation not the persons background

VERY WELL SAID [patriot]
 
Posted by sydewayzLX50 (Member # 10217) on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by Tashas_c0upe:
quote:
Originally posted by sydewayzLX50:
everybody talks about the officer and fails to realize that when a cop tells you to comply and you dont they have to prepare for worst case scenario. if he had listened to the officers he would still be alive today. we as society grant officers who at times put their lives at risk for us the authority to make split second decisions like mehserle did. unfortunately their decisions are not always correct. everyone gets caught up on black and white and the media feeds off this crap to sell papers and want to make it worse. witnesses even said that he genuinely looked suprised when the gun went off. bottom line is, people look at the controversy and lose focus on the reality of the situation. if he hadnt been causing trouble, or complied with authority in the first place, he would still be alive. god rest his soul i wish death upon nobody but he caused it. and i somewhat agree with the judges decision, maybe a little harsh but not ridiculous either. and the difference between vick and mehserle is that vick was intentionally killing in cold blood, even if its dogs. im sure people will hate me for this post, i am in no way a racist, i look at the situation not the persons background

YOU MUST HAVE NOT SEEN THE VIDEO AND IF YOU HAVE YOU ARE BLIND... WHAT MORE DOES AN OFFICER NEED??? HE HAD HIS BACK UP THERE, OSCAR WAS ALREADY ON THE GROUND WITH MEHSERLE'S KNEE ON HIS KNECK WHY EVEN TASE HIM FOR THERE WAS NO NEED... AND AIN'T NO WAY A GUN WEIGHS AS MUCH AS A 9MM HE KNEW WTF HE WAS DOING...
so just taking a wild guess here...i guess you were right there when all this happened and saw first hand to be talking like this, right? if you werent then i would suggest you dont speak on it because you dont know what was going on or what was in the minds of grant or mehserle at the time of the shooting, oh and about that video it was a blurry piece of crap video that you can hardly tell whats goin on

[ November 05, 2010, 10:53 PM: Message edited by: sydewayzLX50 ]
 
Posted by Tashas_c0upe (Member # 8969) on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by sydewayzLX50:
quote:
Originally posted by Tashas_c0upe:
quote:
Originally posted by sydewayzLX50:
everybody talks about the officer and fails to realize that when a cop tells you to comply and you dont they have to prepare for worst case scenario. if he had listened to the officers he would still be alive today. we as society grant officers who at times put their lives at risk for us the authority to make split second decisions like mehserle did. unfortunately their decisions are not always correct. everyone gets caught up on black and white and the media feeds off this crap to sell papers and want to make it worse. witnesses even said that he genuinely looked suprised when the gun went off. bottom line is, people look at the controversy and lose focus on the reality of the situation. if he hadnt been causing trouble, or complied with authority in the first place, he would still be alive. god rest his soul i wish death upon nobody but he caused it. and i somewhat agree with the judges decision, maybe a little harsh but not ridiculous either. and the difference between vick and mehserle is that vick was intentionally killing in cold blood, even if its dogs. im sure people will hate me for this post, i am in no way a racist, i look at the situation not the persons background

YOU MUST HAVE NOT SEEN THE VIDEO AND IF YOU HAVE YOU ARE BLIND... WHAT MORE DOES AN OFFICER NEED??? HE HAD HIS BACK UP THERE, OSCAR WAS ALREADY ON THE GROUND WITH MEHSERLE'S KNEE ON HIS KNECK WHY EVEN TASE HIM FOR THERE WAS NO NEED... AND AIN'T NO WAY A GUN WEIGHS AS MUCH AS A 9MM HE KNEW WTF HE WAS DOING...
so just taking a wild guess here...i guess you were right there when all this happened and saw first hand to be talking like this, right? if you werent then i would suggest you dont speak on it because you dont know what was going on or what was in the minds of grant or mehserle at the time of the shooting, oh and about that video it was a blurry piece of crap video that you can hardly tell whats goin on
deff wasn't there bt did see the video when oscar grant was still alive and non resistant weather he was non resistant at first doesn't matter video shows and states that oscar was on the ground with his hands behind his back handcuffed this shit was an execution and wrong.. you folks have your opinions on this situation as i do mine, and i see it as murder point blank

[ November 05, 2010, 11:00 PM: Message edited by: Tashas_c0upe ]
 
Posted by hidnn.o.s. (Member # 1219) on :
 
Well, point blank, YOU SEE IT WRONG! Execution... Gimme a break [Roll Eyes] [Roll Eyes] [Roll Eyes] [Roll Eyes] [Roll Eyes] [Roll Eyes] [Roll Eyes] [Roll Eyes]
 
Posted by Tashas_c0upe (Member # 8969) on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by hidnn.o.s.:
Well, point blank, YOU SEE IT WRONG! Execution... Gimme a break [Roll Eyes] [Roll Eyes] [Roll Eyes] [Roll Eyes] [Roll Eyes] [Roll Eyes] [Roll Eyes] [Roll Eyes]

LIKE I SSAID EXECUTION SOME ONE ON THEY'RE STOMACH HANDCUFFED AND GETTING SHOT IS CALLED EXECUTION [Roll Eyes] [Roll Eyes] [Roll Eyes] [Roll Eyes] [Roll Eyes]

[ November 05, 2010, 11:04 PM: Message edited by: Tashas_c0upe ]
 
Posted by fasthatch (Member # 7277) on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by sydewayzLX50:
everybody talks about the officer and fails to realize that when a cop tells you to comply and you dont they have to prepare for worst case scenario. if he had listened to the officers he would still be alive today. we as society grant officers who at times put their lives at risk for us the authority to make split second decisions like mehserle did. unfortunately their decisions are not always correct. everyone gets caught up on black and white and the media feeds off this crap to sell papers and want to make it worse. witnesses even said that he genuinely looked suprised when the gun went off. bottom line is, people look at the controversy and lose focus on the reality of the situation. if he hadnt been causing trouble, or complied with authority in the first place, he would still be alive. god rest his soul i wish death upon nobody but he caused it. and i somewhat agree with the judges decision, maybe a little harsh but not ridiculous either. and the difference between vick and mehserle is that vick was intentionally killing in cold blood, even if its dogs. im sure people will hate me for this post, i am in no way a racist, i look at the situation not the persons background

very well said sir some people would like to blame others for there faults
 
Posted by sydewayzLX50 (Member # 10217) on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by Tashas_c0upe:
quote:
Originally posted by sydewayzLX50:
quote:
Originally posted by Tashas_c0upe:
quote:
Originally posted by sydewayzLX50:
everybody talks about the officer and fails to realize that when a cop tells you to comply and you dont they have to prepare for worst case scenario. if he had listened to the officers he would still be alive today. we as society grant officers who at times put their lives at risk for us the authority to make split second decisions like mehserle did. unfortunately their decisions are not always correct. everyone gets caught up on black and white and the media feeds off this crap to sell papers and want to make it worse. witnesses even said that he genuinely looked suprised when the gun went off. bottom line is, people look at the controversy and lose focus on the reality of the situation. if he hadnt been causing trouble, or complied with authority in the first place, he would still be alive. god rest his soul i wish death upon nobody but he caused it. and i somewhat agree with the judges decision, maybe a little harsh but not ridiculous either. and the difference between vick and mehserle is that vick was intentionally killing in cold blood, even if its dogs. im sure people will hate me for this post, i am in no way a racist, i look at the situation not the persons background

YOU MUST HAVE NOT SEEN THE VIDEO AND IF YOU HAVE YOU ARE BLIND... WHAT MORE DOES AN OFFICER NEED??? HE HAD HIS BACK UP THERE, OSCAR WAS ALREADY ON THE GROUND WITH MEHSERLE'S KNEE ON HIS KNECK WHY EVEN TASE HIM FOR THERE WAS NO NEED... AND AIN'T NO WAY A GUN WEIGHS AS MUCH AS A 9MM HE KNEW WTF HE WAS DOING...
so just taking a wild guess here...i guess you were right there when all this happened and saw first hand to be talking like this, right? if you werent then i would suggest you dont speak on it because you dont know what was going on or what was in the minds of grant or mehserle at the time of the shooting, oh and about that video it was a blurry piece of crap video that you can hardly tell whats goin on
deff wasn't there bt did see the video when oscar grant was still alive and non resistant weather he was non resistant at first doesn't matter video shows and states that oscar was on the ground with his hands behind his back handcuffed this shit was an execution and wrong.. you folks have your opinions on this situation as i do mine, and i see it as murder point blank
they were trying to cuff him when he got shot he hadnt been cuffed yet
 
Posted by N8 (Member # 6048) on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by sydewayzLX50:
everybody talks about the officer and fails to realize that when a cop tells you to comply and you dont they have to prepare for worst case scenario. if he had listened to the officers he would still be alive today. we as society grant officers who at times put their lives at risk for us the authority to make split second decisions like mehserle did. unfortunately their decisions are not always correct. everyone gets caught up on black and white and the media feeds off this crap to sell papers and want to make it worse. witnesses even said that he genuinely looked suprised when the gun went off. bottom line is, people look at the controversy and lose focus on the reality of the situation. if he hadnt been causing trouble, or complied with authority in the first place, he would still be alive. god rest his soul i wish death upon nobody but he caused it. and i somewhat agree with the judges decision, maybe a little harsh but not ridiculous either. and the difference between vick and mehserle is that vick was intentionally killing in cold blood, even if its dogs. im sure people will hate me for this post, i am in no way a racist, i look at the situation not the persons background

this is pretty lame IMO, but it is safe enough to make me say "fair enough".

You guys be easy, have a drink and relax. Its water under the bridge now.
 
Posted by sydewayzLX50 (Member # 10217) on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by N8:
quote:
Originally posted by sydewayzLX50:
everybody talks about the officer and fails to realize that when a cop tells you to comply and you dont they have to prepare for worst case scenario. if he had listened to the officers he would still be alive today. we as society grant officers who at times put their lives at risk for us the authority to make split second decisions like mehserle did. unfortunately their decisions are not always correct. everyone gets caught up on black and white and the media feeds off this crap to sell papers and want to make it worse. witnesses even said that he genuinely looked suprised when the gun went off. bottom line is, people look at the controversy and lose focus on the reality of the situation. if he hadnt been causing trouble, or complied with authority in the first place, he would still be alive. god rest his soul i wish death upon nobody but he caused it. and i somewhat agree with the judges decision, maybe a little harsh but not ridiculous either. and the difference between vick and mehserle is that vick was intentionally killing in cold blood, even if its dogs. im sure people will hate me for this post, i am in no way a racist, i look at the situation not the persons background

this is pretty lame IMO, but it is safe enough to make me say "fair enough".

You guys be easy, have a drink and relax. Its water under the bridge now.

would you mind to elaborate why this is "lame"?
 
Posted by N8 (Member # 6048) on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by sydewayzLX50:
quote:
Originally posted by N8:
quote:
Originally posted by sydewayzLX50:
everybody talks about the officer and fails to realize that when a cop tells you to comply and you dont they have to prepare for worst case scenario. if he had listened to the officers he would still be alive today. we as society grant officers who at times put their lives at risk for us the authority to make split second decisions like mehserle did. unfortunately their decisions are not always correct. everyone gets caught up on black and white and the media feeds off this crap to sell papers and want to make it worse. witnesses even said that he genuinely looked suprised when the gun went off. bottom line is, people look at the controversy and lose focus on the reality of the situation. if he hadnt been causing trouble, or complied with authority in the first place, he would still be alive. god rest his soul i wish death upon nobody but he caused it. and i somewhat agree with the judges decision, maybe a little harsh but not ridiculous either. and the difference between vick and mehserle is that vick was intentionally killing in cold blood, even if its dogs. im sure people will hate me for this post, i am in no way a racist, i look at the situation not the persons background

this is pretty lame IMO, but it is safe enough to make me say "fair enough".

You guys be easy, have a drink and relax. Its water under the bridge now.

would you mind to elaborate why this is "lame"?
nah, do not really want to start an argument. Lets just say, there is more to consider than just what you are saying. But ultimately it is your opinion and for that I say "fair enough". Like I said earlier, once a person has on the rose colored glass there is no taking them off.
 
Posted by fasthatch (Member # 7277) on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by N8:
quote:
Originally posted by sydewayzLX50:
quote:
Originally posted by N8:
quote:
Originally posted by sydewayzLX50:
everybody talks about the officer and fails to realize that when a cop tells you to comply and you dont they have to prepare for worst case scenario. if he had listened to the officers he would still be alive today. we as society grant officers who at times put their lives at risk for us the authority to make split second decisions like mehserle did. unfortunately their decisions are not always correct. everyone gets caught up on black and white and the media feeds off this crap to sell papers and want to make it worse. witnesses even said that he genuinely looked suprised when the gun went off. bottom line is, people look at the controversy and lose focus on the reality of the situation. if he hadnt been causing trouble, or complied with authority in the first place, he would still be alive. god rest his soul i wish death upon nobody but he caused it. and i somewhat agree with the judges decision, maybe a little harsh but not ridiculous either. and the difference between vick and mehserle is that vick was intentionally killing in cold blood, even if its dogs. im sure people will hate me for this post, i am in no way a racist, i look at the situation not the persons background

this is pretty lame IMO, but it is safe enough to make me say "fair enough".

You guys be easy, have a drink and relax. Its water under the bridge now.

would you mind to elaborate why this is "lame"?
nah, do not really want to start an argument. Lets just say, there is more to consider than just what you are saying. But ultimately it is your opinion and for that I say "fair enough". Like I said earlier, once a person has on the rose colored glass there is no taking them off.
pot meet the kettle
 
Posted by cali95gt (Member # 8940) on :
 
For all the people crying murder, Go write a letter or something... It's over and done with.. there is nothing we can do..

Honestly, No cop in his right mind would purposely shoot someone in front of witnesses.. that's just plain stupidity, they would atleast do it with no witnesses around...

I have no feelings on this subject anyway it goes.. this guy will always have to look over his shoulder and has had his livihood taken away from him..

If he honestly did do this on purpose than let the man upstairs take care of it
 
Posted by N8 (Member # 6048) on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by cali95gt:
For all the people crying murder, Go write a letter or something... It's over and done with.. there is nothing we can do..

Honestly, No cop in his right mind would purposely shoot someone in front of witnesses.. that's just plain stupidity, they would atleast do it with no witnesses around...

I have no feelings on this subject anyway it goes.. this guy will always have to look over his shoulder and has had his livihood taken away from him..

If he honestly did do this on purpose than let the man upstairs take care of it

This +500

Also like I said he left a mess behindfor other officers still on the force will have to deal with. I have a homie that is BART PD and he works the rough leg. Now he has to be on his toes that much more. Sad, because he is one of the good ones, that tries to really serve and protect.
 
Posted by uncle bill (Member # 3953) on :
 
n8 you like to use that "rose colored glass" phrase alot. and youre right. but you know what? you have your rose colored glasses on too
 
Posted by onesicklx (Member # 285) on :
 
oakland is wack, they shoulda burn that bitch down...the real Gs are in LA... [Big Grin]
 
Posted by N8 (Member # 6048) on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by uncle bill:
n8 you like to use that "rose colored glass" phrase alot. and youre right. but you know what? you have your rose colored glasses on too

not really, I am not sheeple. And I see things for the face value as well as the perceived value. That is the opposite of Rose colored glasses. I look beyond bias.
 
Posted by 90GT510 (Member # 9199) on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by Tashas_c0upe:
quote:
Originally posted by sydewayzLX50:
everybody talks about the officer and fails to realize that when a cop tells you to comply and you dont they have to prepare for worst case scenario. if he had listened to the officers he would still be alive today. we as society grant officers who at times put their lives at risk for us the authority to make split second decisions like mehserle did. unfortunately their decisions are not always correct. everyone gets caught up on black and white and the media feeds off this crap to sell papers and want to make it worse. witnesses even said that he genuinely looked suprised when the gun went off. bottom line is, people look at the controversy and lose focus on the reality of the situation. if he hadnt been causing trouble, or complied with authority in the first place, he would still be alive. god rest his soul i wish death upon nobody but he caused it. and i somewhat agree with the judges decision, maybe a little harsh but not ridiculous either. and the difference between vick and mehserle is that vick was intentionally killing in cold blood, even if its dogs. im sure people will hate me for this post, i am in no way a racist, i look at the situation not the persons background

YOU MUST HAVE NOT SEEN THE VIDEO AND IF YOU HAVE YOU ARE BLIND... WHAT MORE DOES AN OFFICER NEED??? HE HAD HIS BACK UP THERE, OSCAR WAS ALREADY ON THE GROUND WITH MEHSERLE'S KNEE ON HIS KNECK WHY EVEN TASE HIM FOR THERE WAS NO NEED... AND AIN'T NO WAY A GUN WEIGHS AS MUCH AS A 9MM HE KNEW WTF HE WAS DOING...
Finally someone with common sense
 
Posted by AL STOCK (Member # 1852) on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by 90GT510:
quote:
Originally posted by Tashas_c0upe:
quote:
Originally posted by sydewayzLX50:

YOU MUST HAVE NOT SEEN THE VIDEO AND IF YOU HAVE YOU ARE BLIND... WHAT MORE DOES AN OFFICER NEED??? HE HAD HIS BACK UP THERE, OSCAR WAS ALREADY ON THE GROUND WITH MEHSERLE'S KNEE ON HIS KNECK WHY EVEN TASE HIM FOR THERE WAS NO NEED... AND AIN'T NO WAY A GUN WEIGHS AS MUCH AS A 9MM HE KNEW WTF HE WAS DOING...
Finally someone with common sense
[patriot] [patriot] [patriot]

Again, let KARMA handle that cop from now. He will eventually get his [Smile]
 
Posted by copcar (Member # 10113) on :
 
No expert here but a taser is neither the same weight nor feel of a pistol, do know that. I also thought that in firearm training one is taught to unholster, position, safety off, target lock and fire. Seems like alot of steps to quickly go through before sending burniing lead into somebody. And since when are they holstered in the same position? The only tasers i have seen are holstered opposite the firearm, maybe personal preference?? Shit, what kind of training did this guy get? Are the standards that low??

What I don't understand is, I have no idea why the officer apprehended the suspect in the first place. The media has done a fantastic job telling us what happened but not why. Maybe I missed something but I never heard what caused this in the first place.
 
Posted by Slowback67 (Member # 6348) on :
 
"What I don't understand is, I have no idea why the officer apprehended the suspect in the first place. The media has done a fantastic job telling us what happened but not why. Maybe I missed something but I never heard what caused this in the first place."

^ He was fighting on the BART train and causing alot of problems..... When the police arived he was acting a fool. The video cameras came out hoping for another Rodney King tape. ( Because we ALL know cops are dirty )

To make matters worse..... after Grant was killed, another
outstading member of Oakland named Lovelle Mixon
decided to kill four Oakland officers. Mixon and others felt grant was murdered in cold blood and that the cops had their "KARMA" comming. [Frown]

Seeing as their were 2 great Oakland residents killed to 4
cops, I'd say let's just call it truths. Many people have been
affected by the these tragic events. Let's just all try and learn
from this and hope we can stop history from repeating itself.

Just my .02

[ November 06, 2010, 03:02 AM: Message edited by: Slowback67 ]
 
Posted by 51505.0 (Member # 1904) on :
 
Let's first take some english courses so we can learn how to express ourselves and not sound retarded. I would sure hope a 9mm, which I believe is a gun, weighs and much as a regular gun lol. They are the same, right or am I wrong. Read you post.

We should just kill all the cops, give everyone in Oakland crack and guns. In two years it will be over and we can rebuild. The shit is done, go take an english course and relax.

Lets just all get hyphy and just do what it do bay style. This shit is stupid
 
Posted by bigjerry (Member # 6033) on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by sydewayzLX50:
everybody talks about the officer and fails to realize that when a cop tells you to comply and you dont they have to prepare for worst case scenario. if he had listened to the officers he would still be alive today. we as society grant officers who at times put their lives at risk for us the authority to make split second decisions like mehserle did. unfortunately their decisions are not always correct. everyone gets caught up on black and white and the media feeds off this crap to sell papers and want to make it worse. witnesses even said that he genuinely looked suprised when the gun went off. bottom line is, people look at the controversy and lose focus on the reality of the situation. if he hadnt been causing trouble, or complied with authority in the first place, he would still be alive. god rest his soul i wish death upon nobody but he caused it. and i somewhat agree with the judges decision, maybe a little harsh but not ridiculous either. and the difference between vick and mehserle is that vick was intentionally killing in cold blood, even if its dogs. im sure people will hate me for this post, i am in no way a racist, i look at the situation not the persons background

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Posted by General Butt Naked (Member # 4831) on :
 
A innocent man died for no reason. Only a self righteous moron would blame him in any way for the how he was killed.
 
Posted by hidnn.o.s. (Member # 1219) on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by General Butt Naked:
A innocent man died for no reason. Only a self righteous moron would blame him in any way for the how he was killed.

[Roll Eyes]

Innocent man......... [Roll Eyes] [Roll Eyes] [Roll Eyes] [Roll Eyes] [Roll Eyes] [Roll Eyes] [Roll Eyes]
 
Posted by Duncan Motors (Member # 7045) on :
 
the police department should of sufferd for there low class training of this moron, that < accidentally?> shot the guy laying on his stomach while many officers where kneeing him in the back. i think cops are for the better, but they just hire any young gun with a chip on his shoulder.i def think police should undergo a lot more training before there loose on the streets.
 
Posted by kingroy (Member # 7736) on :
 
The argument is old. Good guy vs. Bad guy, cop vs. Citizen, white vs. Black, suburbs vs. Oakland. Same shit different day. Fact is, a cop shot a guy in the back, went to court and convicted. Sentenced for 2 years with timed served. How each of us feel about it is our own opinion which comes from experiences in our life. So please, save the oakland vs suburbs, black vs. White, good vs bad, and cop vs. Citizen debate because its not getting anywhere. Explain this to me: how can someone that kills a guy by shooting him in the back get the same amount of time as a guy that shots himself in the foot. Or a guy that releases 650 minks into the street, or a guy that bribes another, or lastly a guy that's carrying drugs? I don't get it, taking another life is the ultimate sin. Either his sentencing was too short, or the others were too long. Bottom line is, they weren't equal.

Question, how much time you think will I get if I killed a spectator on accident racing my car at the street races?
 
Posted by 1RaW93SvT (Member # 9151) on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by sydewayzLX50:
everybody talks about the officer and fails to realize that when a cop tells you to comply and you dont they have to prepare for worst case scenario. if he had listened to the officers he would still be alive today. we as society grant officers who at times put their lives at risk for us the authority to make split second decisions like mehserle did. unfortunately their decisions are not always correct. everyone gets caught up on black and white and the media feeds off this crap to sell papers and want to make it worse. witnesses even said that he genuinely looked suprised when the gun went off. bottom line is, people look at the controversy and lose focus on the reality of the situation. if he hadnt been causing trouble, or complied with authority in the first place, he would still be alive. god rest his soul i wish death upon nobody but he caused it. and i somewhat agree with the judges decision, maybe a little harsh but not ridiculous either. and the difference between vick and mehserle is that vick was intentionally killing in cold blood, even if its dogs. im sure people will hate me for this post, i am in no way a racist, i look at the situation not the persons background

[worship] [worship] [worship] this sums it up for sure!!! [patriot] [patriot]

also if the officer was blk also there would not be so much bullshit going on!! [patriot] [patriot]
 
Posted by Nastysvt (Member # 6431) on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by copcar:
No expert here but a taser is neither the same weight nor feel of a pistol, do know that. I also thought that in firearm training one is taught to unholster, position, safety off, target lock and fire. Seems like alot of steps to quickly go through before sending burniing lead into somebody. And since when are they holstered in the same position? The only tasers i have seen are holstered opposite the firearm, maybe personal preference?? Shit, what kind of training did this guy get? Are the standards that low??

What I don't understand is, I have no idea why the officer apprehended the suspect in the first place. The media has done a fantastic job telling us what happened but not why. Maybe I missed something but I never heard what caused this in the first place.

very well said..also, the police were called because he was trying to "pocket check" people on the bart and start trouble..so when he was on the ground, why wasnt Mesherle, or any of the other officers going for the cuffs? He wasnt going anywhere with 2 big guys on him an police surrounding the area [Confused]
 
Posted by fasthatch (Member # 7277) on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by kingroy:


Question, how much time you think will I get if I killed a spectator on accident racing my car at the street races?

if you stayed after the accident you would get about 2 years if you ran after there more charges you could get about 7 years
 
Posted by Nastysvt (Member # 6431) on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by fasthatch:
quote:
Originally posted by kingroy:


Question, how much time you think will I get if I killed a spectator on accident racing my car at the street races?

if you stayed after the accident you would get about 2 years if you ran after there more charges you could get about 7 years
I jus seen on CNN yesterday, a girl was in court for a hit and run in which 5 people died. She later turned herself in but was convicted to 36 years
 
Posted by 51505.0 (Member # 1904) on :
 
Kingroy you dont sound like an idiot so Ill answer your question about times. Lets start with drugs. I guarantee if you got caught with drugs, possession or sales for the first time, you wont get shit. We all know that, so lets not argue that point, but if youve been arrested a million times, on probation, with time over your head, or strikes on your records, they will throw the book at you, its called progression. No one I know has got 15 years for simple drug possession their first time. Second, I saw a guy get 2.5 years in prison for drunk driving the wrong way on a city street and killing someone. Now is that fair either, I say no, was he reckless in his actions, yes. He got 2.5 years. I could go on and on. All these situations are different and if you have ever dealt with the court systems you know they are very very lienient toward everyone. I know guys that have done 4 years in prision for a cold blooded murder. I dont see everyone running around breaking windows because of that, and that kinda shit happens everyday. Finally I will finish with this, The family sued for 25 million. If my mom got killed on that platform, I bet you I would get 25 million. His daughter got 1.3 or 1.7 million, you tell me why it was so low. Cause in a court of law, especially a civil court of law, they take "what your worth" on paper and thats what they come up with. What Im trying to say is if he was a great, fatherly figure that did everything right in his life and led that perfect life that all these people say he did, his family would have had 25 million. Since he wasnt it went down to 1.3-1.7. This is coming from a lawyer. Have a great day just figure Id speak some facts, with evidence behind them and not, the white cop was a racist his whole life and always wanted to kill a black man type of shit.

[ November 07, 2010, 12:11 PM: Message edited by: 51505.0 ]
 
Posted by cali95gt (Member # 8940) on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by kingroy:
Either his sentencing was too short, or the others were too long. Bottom line is, they weren't equal.


Come on your black right? life isn't fair, you should know this by now [Big Grin] ...Just keep your head down and comply with officers of the law..

To be honest.. If you don't comply with a police officer or even talk some smack back to them then please be prepared for anything... I usually just go along with what they are saying and look, I'm still alive [patriot]
 
Posted by asskickn88 (Member # 4957) on :
 
If Grant was killed by some guy who caught him stealing his car you'd all be cheering but since it was a cop that killed him your all mad. It was a fucked up situation but the guy had a serious criminal history and because he was fucking around on the train in the first place combined with him resisting this happened. Its just too bad no one will admit they are only mad because the guy was a cop.
 




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