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Posted by rmadison007 (Member # 8670) on :
 
http://bleacherreport.com/articles/324097-international-boxing-fans-the-boxing-worlds-necessary-evil

very entertaining article
 
Posted by slowback67 (Member # 6348) on :
 
This might get ugly...
 
Posted by N8 (Member # 6048) on :
 
LMAO....I got hella popcorn ready..

quote:
They are some of the most annoying fans the boxing world has ever seen. On top of it all, they are probably the least knowledgeable boxing fans in the world.
This is lightweight true though. The article honestly holds a lot truth to it. But...still...popcorn in hand.
 
Posted by gtowned. (Member # 8156) on :
 
i thought it was gonna be  -
 
Posted by N8 (Member # 6048) on :
 
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Originally posted by gtowned.:
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OMMFG.LMMFAO...THAT IS HILARIOUS. that image is hella funny. Took me a while to see what it was lmao....

HAHAHAHAHA, that just made my day...I cant stop laughing

[ January 12, 2010, 12:30 AM: Message edited by: N8 ]
 
Posted by Rigo5.0 (Member # 5247) on :
 
Who cares whether they're "true" fans of boxing or not. There are a lot of fans in many sports who are not "true" fans. For example: I run across a lot of "so-called" Cowboys fans. They haven't seen a game since 2007; Still think T.O. is on the squad; Don't really understand the game. But in the end, they are still fans. It is a little frustrating to try and have a conversation about the particular sport/subject with those type of fans, but let's remember that we don't commit to all sports. I like boxing and basketball a lot too, but I'm def not a "true" fan.
Boxing also happens to be a sport that doesn't have too many true fans. I have Black friends that root for Black fighters just because they're Black. I have family members and friends that root for Mexican fighters just because they're Mexican. Filipinos, Italians, and so forth, do the same.
I don't buy that some of you here that criticize Filipinos don't do the same.
 
Posted by 50Reasons (Member # 6452) on :
 
Yea PAC fans don't want to face the truth R O I D S
 
Posted by S4OSHUS (Member # 2918) on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by Rigo5.0:
Who cares whether they're "true" fans of boxing or not. There are a lot of fans in many sports who are not "true" fans. For example: I run across a lot of "so-called" Cowboys fans. They haven't seen a game since 2007; Still think T.O. is on the squad; Don't really understand the game. But in the end, they are still fans. It is a little frustrating to try and have a conversation about the particular sport/subject with those type of fans, but let's remember that we don't commit to all sports. I like boxing and basketball a lot too, but I'm def not a "true" fan.
Boxing also happens to be a sport that doesn't have too many true fans. I have Black friends that root for Black fighters just because they're Black. I have family members and friends that root for Mexican fighters just because they're Mexican. Filipinos, Italians, and so forth, do the same.
I don't buy that some of you here that criticize Filipinos don't do the same.

exactly [patriot]
 
Posted by SydeWaySix (Member # 3596) on :
 
I think all these fucks that keep hating are just jealous and somewhat RACIST! Yea, you may not be dropping racial names towards filipinos or anything, but its just hard to believe for most of the haters that Pac is a small ass FILIPINO whoopin ass! Roids or not, if he wins, you hate...if he loses, you hate. Why cant you just realize he's a raw ass fighter whos faster than all the shit heads that YOU'RE rooting for! Its hella annoying hearing and reading this shit..bet your ass wouldnt say it to his face though!

And to put the cherry on top, yea, maybe we're not "true boxing fans" [Roll Eyes] but who the fuck is? N8? who else???? You guys are just jealous of the pride that we have in our country cuz you can't say the same!!!! [dance]
 
Posted by SIC66 (Member # 7269) on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by SydeWaySix:
I think all these fucks that keep hating are just jealous and somewhat RACIST! Yea, you may not be dropping racial names towards filipinos or anything, but its just hard to believe for most of the haters that Pac is a small ass FILIPINO whoopin ass! Roids or not, if he wins, you hate...if he loses, you hate. Why cant you just realize he's a raw ass fighter whos faster than all the shit heads that YOU'RE rooting for! Its hella annoying hearing and reading this shit..bet your ass wouldnt say it to his face though!

And to put the cherry on top, yea, maybe we're not "true boxing fans" [Roll Eyes] but who the fuck is? N8? who else???? You guys are just jealous of the pride that we have in our country cuz you can't say the same!!!! [dance]

couldn't agree with you more... these motherf***ers always got some negative shit to say. even if pac is on roids, it doesn't mean he can win them all. you know how you know they're HATERS, cuz they don't have anything positive to say about it at all. it's always excuses all the time. and then they turn it into a race thing. BITCH PLEASE...
 
Posted by SIC66 (Member # 7269) on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by 50Reasons:
Yea PAC fans don't want to face the truth R O I D S

roids w/out proof... yea okay... you ain't sayin shit about mayweather using Xylocaine?

look it up.

http://hometestingblog.testcountry.com/?p=6051
 
Posted by gtowned. (Member # 8156) on :
 
how are people gonna use the racist card.im pretty sure the whole sport is made up of minorities at this point.
 
Posted by rmadison007 (Member # 8670) on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by SIC66:
quote:
Originally posted by 50Reasons:
Yea PAC fans don't want to face the truth R O I D S

roids w/out proof... yea okay... you ain't sayin shit about mayweather using Xylocaine?

look it up.

http://hometestingblog.testcountry.com/?p=6051

Last time you brought that up, I asked if you could provide the original article from 2002 that wrote that Mayweather used Xylocaine? There is not one that is why no crediable website or sports channel has said anything about it...If you are going to criticize riod accusations with other false accusations what is the point? Credible people and credible websites having made the accusations, not blogs...do better homework...
 
Posted by SIC66 (Member # 7269) on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by gtowned.:
how are people gonna use the racist card.im pretty sure the whole sport is made up of minorities at this point.

people here are bringing it up. saying that "you must be filipino to be a fan". pac fans are not just filipinos, but some folks here tend to go that route. that's where the race shit comes from. ignorant asses.
 
Posted by macthizzle (Member # 3492) on :
 
I DONT CARE IF HE IS BLACK WHITE PURPLE OR GREEN PACQUIAO IS A CHEATER THAT HASNT GOT CAUGHT YET [patriot] [patriot]
 
Posted by rmadison007 (Member # 8670) on :
 
Sic66 - 90% of Pacquiao fans are filipino...then you add the majority of american boxing fans that do not like Mayweather and you have 10 times more Mayweather haters than Pacquiao Haters...But at this point it is pointless for the Pacquiao Fans to cheer for Pacquiao to win boxing matches becasue it would be like cheering for Barry Bonds to break the Home Run Record...It doesn't matter because we all suspect that you are cheating and until you proves us wrong, your cheating!...

SydeWaySix - Could you imagine how different this situation would have gone if it was Hatton complaining about Pacquiao using roids and you lived in Britain...you would probably have to move to the Philipines...The fact is that if american fans were as loyal as most international fans, than Pacquiao would have had no choice but to take the test and validate his accomplishments or never fight in america again...Mayweather is treated like this generation Jack Johnson...And Manny is treated like Barry Bonds.
 
Posted by Luke87GT (Member # 21) on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by bleacherreport:
Almost every international boxer who comes to the United States is seen as someone who has the chance to bring pride to their country; which basically equates to a lot of fans who really don't know anything about the sport buying tickets for the fight and ordering those pay-per-views.

When Manny Pacquiao fights, it is the Philippines fighting.

When Ricky Hatton fights, it is Great Britain who is fighting.

When Miguel Cotto fights, it is Puerto Rico who is fighting.

When any great Mexican fights, it is Mexico fighting.


As I said before, you can't blame people for having national pride. And it seems that the poorer the nation, the louder people scream and grasp for the opportunity to gain attention and noteriety. It's normal...

I'll throw another guy on that list above too. Andrew Golota. The Polish community was buzzing!

Of course, looking from the outside, it can be extremely annoying. I do think that the following comment is out of line...

quote:
Originally posted by bleacherreport:
They are some of the most annoying fans the boxing world has ever seen. On top of it all, they are probably the least knowledgeable boxing fans in the world.

Most annoying fans of the moment? Absolutely. Most annoying fans the boxing world has ever seen? That is going too far.

Let the better boxer win if this fight happens!

Cheers!
 
Posted by BATMOBILE (Member # 6239) on :
 
Im a true boxing fan so you can add me to the mix... Yeah I do side with Puerto Rican fighters cuz that is what I am but I am also a boxing fan. I watch all fights.. ESPN fights, Mexican station fights, classic fights.. I watch them all. I watch boxing so much that every female Ive ever been with gets anoyed and says "how many times are you gonna watch that same fight" lol or "You say that thats one of the greatest fights you've ever seen to every fight you watch" hahaha. I dont hate on any particular fighter.. but when my guy is fighting someone all of a sudden that other guy becomes the target. It pisses me off that fans say "who cares if Pacquiao is on roids, ur mad cuz he whooped you fighters *ss..." Are you serious? Where is the pride in that? I am a huge Cotto, Felix Trinidad, Juanma, Lakers and 49ers fan. Everyone who's known me since i was little knows this about me. I stick thru my teams no mattter what. I stick with the crappy niners and the Lakers werent so hot in the early 90's after Magic left but I will tell you what... If I heard that Montana, Magic, Trinidad, Cotto... was on Roids I'd be devastated and would feel cheated... I know I wouldn't say "so what, we whooped your *ss" Real Talk...
 
Posted by SIC66 (Member # 7269) on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by BATMOBILE:
Im a true boxing fan so you can add me to the mix... Yeah I do side with Puerto Rican fighters cuz that is what I am but I am also a boxing fan. I watch all fights.. ESPN fights, Mexican station fights, classic fights.. I watch them all. I watch boxing so much that every female Ive ever been with gets anoyed and says "how many times are you gonna watch that same fight" lol or "You say that thats one of the greatest fights you've ever seen to every fight you watch" hahaha. I dont hate on any particular fighter.. but when my guy is fighting someone all of a sudden that other guy becomes the target. It pisses me off that fans say "who cares if Pacquiao is on roids, ur mad cuz he whooped you fighters *ss..." Are you serious? Where is the pride in that? I am a huge Cotto, Felix Trinidad, Juanma, Lakers and 49ers fan. Everyone who's known me since i was little knows this about me. I stick thru my teams no mattter what. I stick with the crappy niners and the Lakers werent so hot in the early 90's after Magic left but I will tell you what... If I heard that Montana, Magic, Trinidad, Cotto... was on Roids I'd be devastated and would feel cheated... I know I wouldn't say "so what, we whooped your *ss" Real Talk...

i watch boxing a lot too. i actually like cotto. i was one of the people who thought pac might lose. i am loyal to my teams too, regardless of the situation. but to discredit pac w/out proof is just being ignorant and jumping in the band wagon. people tend to make excuses whenever he wins. everytime he fights, peopel always sya he's gonna get his ass whoop by this guy and that guy. after he wins, he won because of all this and that. that's when the excuses seems to come out. but people just can't accept the fact the he is a pretty good and exciting fighter.
 
Posted by SIC66 (Member # 7269) on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by rmadison007:
quote:
Originally posted by SIC66:
quote:
Originally posted by 50Reasons:
Yea PAC fans don't want to face the truth R O I D S

roids w/out proof... yea okay... you ain't sayin shit about mayweather using Xylocaine?

look it up.

http://hometestingblog.testcountry.com/?p=6051

Last time you brought that up, I asked if you could provide the original article from 2002 that wrote that Mayweather used Xylocaine? There is not one that is why no crediable website or sports channel has said anything about it...If you are going to criticize riod accusations with other false accusations what is the point? Credible people and credible websites having made the accusations, not blogs...do better homework...
okay. then where's your proof that pac is on roids? now you go do your homework... show me some proof not accusations...
 
Posted by BATMOBILE (Member # 6239) on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by SIC66:
quote:
Originally posted by BATMOBILE:
Im a true boxing fan so you can add me to the mix... Yeah I do side with Puerto Rican fighters cuz that is what I am but I am also a boxing fan. I watch all fights.. ESPN fights, Mexican station fights, classic fights.. I watch them all. I watch boxing so much that every female Ive ever been with gets anoyed and says "how many times are you gonna watch that same fight" lol or "You say that thats one of the greatest fights you've ever seen to every fight you watch" hahaha. I dont hate on any particular fighter.. but when my guy is fighting someone all of a sudden that other guy becomes the target. It pisses me off that fans say "who cares if Pacquiao is on roids, ur mad cuz he whooped you fighters *ss..." Are you serious? Where is the pride in that? I am a huge Cotto, Felix Trinidad, Juanma, Lakers and 49ers fan. Everyone who's known me since i was little knows this about me. I stick thru my teams no mattter what. I stick with the crappy niners and the Lakers werent so hot in the early 90's after Magic left but I will tell you what... If I heard that Montana, Magic, Trinidad, Cotto... was on Roids I'd be devastated and would feel cheated... I know I wouldn't say "so what, we whooped your *ss" Real Talk...

i watch boxing a lot too. i actually like cotto. i was one of the people who thought pac might lose. i am loyal to my teams too, regardless of the situation. but to discredit pac w/out proof is just being ignorant and jumping in the band wagon. people tend to make excuses whenever he wins. everytime he fights, peopel always sya he's gonna get his ass whoop by this guy and that guy. after he wins, he won because of all this and that. that's when the excuses seems to come out. but people just can't accept the fact the he is a pretty good and exciting fighter.
I hear what you saying but doesn't it kinda look like he is guilty with how he is handling it?
 
Posted by N8 (Member # 6048) on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by SIC66:
quote:
Originally posted by BATMOBILE:
Im a true boxing fan so you can add me to the mix... Yeah I do side with Puerto Rican fighters cuz that is what I am but I am also a boxing fan. I watch all fights.. ESPN fights, Mexican station fights, classic fights.. I watch them all. I watch boxing so much that every female Ive ever been with gets anoyed and says "how many times are you gonna watch that same fight" lol or "You say that thats one of the greatest fights you've ever seen to every fight you watch" hahaha. I dont hate on any particular fighter.. but when my guy is fighting someone all of a sudden that other guy becomes the target. It pisses me off that fans say "who cares if Pacquiao is on roids, ur mad cuz he whooped you fighters *ss..." Are you serious? Where is the pride in that? I am a huge Cotto, Felix Trinidad, Juanma, Lakers and 49ers fan. Everyone who's known me since i was little knows this about me. I stick thru my teams no mattter what. I stick with the crappy niners and the Lakers werent so hot in the early 90's after Magic left but I will tell you what... If I heard that Montana, Magic, Trinidad, Cotto... was on Roids I'd be devastated and would feel cheated... I know I wouldn't say "so what, we whooped your *ss" Real Talk...

i watch boxing a lot too. i actually like cotto. i was one of the people who thought pac might lose. i am loyal to my teams too, regardless of the situation. but to discredit pac w/out proof is just being ignorant and jumping in the band wagon. people tend to make excuses whenever he wins. everytime he fights, peopel always sya he's gonna get his ass whoop by this guy and that guy. after he wins, he won because of all this and that. that's when the excuses seems to come out. but people just can't accept the fact the he is a pretty good and exciting fighter.
My whole gripe is just take a step back and look at him like a normal fighter. Not a national icon. When you do that you will be able to see through the media smokescreen. Floyd fights for checks and he at times cripples the sport with that attitude. Manny has been fighting fighters and placing them at an unfair disadvantage. Thus crippling the sport. The PEDs thing, is one of those it is easy to prove wrong things. And he chose to run from it. So it is his fault he is looked at in this light. Just like it is Floyds fault he is looked at as a person that ducks good fighters. Just call it what it is, and that is what Manny fans cannot do. Like if someone came up and asked you if you were gay in front of 30 friends. If your answer was, "well I dont know, what are you, why do you want to know". Everything but saying "no". Well a good 25 of those 30 friends will go spread the word that you are gay. Why? Because it would have been very easy to just say "no". For Manny it would have been easier to just take the tests and fight. He took a blood test for Hatton. So his whole defense went out the window right there.
 
Posted by BATMOBILE (Member # 6239) on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by N8:
quote:
Originally posted by SIC66:
quote:
Originally posted by BATMOBILE:
Im a true boxing fan so you can add me to the mix... Yeah I do side with Puerto Rican fighters cuz that is what I am but I am also a boxing fan. I watch all fights.. ESPN fights, Mexican station fights, classic fights.. I watch them all. I watch boxing so much that every female Ive ever been with gets anoyed and says "how many times are you gonna watch that same fight" lol or "You say that thats one of the greatest fights you've ever seen to every fight you watch" hahaha. I dont hate on any particular fighter.. but when my guy is fighting someone all of a sudden that other guy becomes the target. It pisses me off that fans say "who cares if Pacquiao is on roids, ur mad cuz he whooped you fighters *ss..." Are you serious? Where is the pride in that? I am a huge Cotto, Felix Trinidad, Juanma, Lakers and 49ers fan. Everyone who's known me since i was little knows this about me. I stick thru my teams no mattter what. I stick with the crappy niners and the Lakers werent so hot in the early 90's after Magic left but I will tell you what... If I heard that Montana, Magic, Trinidad, Cotto... was on Roids I'd be devastated and would feel cheated... I know I wouldn't say "so what, we whooped your *ss" Real Talk...

i watch boxing a lot too. i actually like cotto. i was one of the people who thought pac might lose. i am loyal to my teams too, regardless of the situation. but to discredit pac w/out proof is just being ignorant and jumping in the band wagon. people tend to make excuses whenever he wins. everytime he fights, peopel always sya he's gonna get his ass whoop by this guy and that guy. after he wins, he won because of all this and that. that's when the excuses seems to come out. but people just can't accept the fact the he is a pretty good and exciting fighter.
My whole gripe is just take a step back and look at him like a normal fighter. Not a national icon. When you do that you will be able to see through the media smokescreen. Floyd fights for checks and he at times cripples the sport with that attitude. Manny has been fighting fighters and placing them at an unfair disadvantage. Thus crippling the sport. The PEDs thing, is one of those it is easy to prove wrong things. And he chose to run from it. So it is his fault he is looked at in this light. Just like it is Floyds fault he is looked at as a person that ducks good fighters. Just call it what it is, and that is what Manny fans cannot do. Like if someone came up and asked you if you were gay in front of 30 friends. If your answer was, "well I dont know, what are you, why do you want to know". Everything but saying "no". Well a good 25 of those 30 friends will go spread the word that you are gay. Why? Because it would have been very easy to just say "no". For Manny it would have been easier to just take the tests and fight. He took a blood test for Hatton. So his whole defense went out the window right there.
NICE!!! AGREE
 
Posted by rmadison007 (Member # 8670) on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by SIC66:
quote:
Originally posted by rmadison007:
quote:
Originally posted by SIC66:
quote:
Originally posted by 50Reasons:
Yea PAC fans don't want to face the truth R O I D S

roids w/out proof... yea okay... you ain't sayin shit about mayweather using Xylocaine?

look it up.

http://hometestingblog.testcountry.com/?p=6051

Last time you brought that up, I asked if you could provide the original article from 2002 that wrote that Mayweather used Xylocaine? There is not one that is why no crediable website or sports channel has said anything about it...If you are going to criticize riod accusations with other false accusations what is the point? Credible people and credible websites having made the accusations, not blogs...do better homework...
okay. then where's your proof that pac is on roids? now you go do your homework... show me some proof not accusations...
Never said he was on roids, but based on the way he has handle this situation it leads to believe that he hiding something, I suspect he is using PEDs...His personality outside the ring as a stand up citizen and gentlemen does not match with the personality being shown in reference to the accusations related to PEDs...Several credible analyst and experts have put their reputations on the line to call Manny out suggesting that he is using PEDS...In the media, you guilty until proven innocent...ask Mark Mcgwire...There were only suspicion until he admitted it...same with Roger Clemens and Barry Bonds...Neither have been proven PEDs user, but their arrogance and the overwelming suspicion of their accomplishment have made them guilty...Only Pacquiao fans are questions Mayweather's use of painkillers...Everyone is questioning Pacquiao use of PEDs...If you are clean, take the test and prove you are clean...
 
Posted by SIC66 (Member # 7269) on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by BATMOBILE:
quote:
Originally posted by N8:
quote:
Originally posted by SIC66:
quote:
Originally posted by BATMOBILE:
Im a true boxing fan so you can add me to the mix... Yeah I do side with Puerto Rican fighters cuz that is what I am but I am also a boxing fan. I watch all fights.. ESPN fights, Mexican station fights, classic fights.. I watch them all. I watch boxing so much that every female Ive ever been with gets anoyed and says "how many times are you gonna watch that same fight" lol or "You say that thats one of the greatest fights you've ever seen to every fight you watch" hahaha. I dont hate on any particular fighter.. but when my guy is fighting someone all of a sudden that other guy becomes the target. It pisses me off that fans say "who cares if Pacquiao is on roids, ur mad cuz he whooped you fighters *ss..." Are you serious? Where is the pride in that? I am a huge Cotto, Felix Trinidad, Juanma, Lakers and 49ers fan. Everyone who's known me since i was little knows this about me. I stick thru my teams no mattter what. I stick with the crappy niners and the Lakers werent so hot in the early 90's after Magic left but I will tell you what... If I heard that Montana, Magic, Trinidad, Cotto... was on Roids I'd be devastated and would feel cheated... I know I wouldn't say "so what, we whooped your *ss" Real Talk...

i watch boxing a lot too. i actually like cotto. i was one of the people who thought pac might lose. i am loyal to my teams too, regardless of the situation. but to discredit pac w/out proof is just being ignorant and jumping in the band wagon. people tend to make excuses whenever he wins. everytime he fights, peopel always sya he's gonna get his ass whoop by this guy and that guy. after he wins, he won because of all this and that. that's when the excuses seems to come out. but people just can't accept the fact the he is a pretty good and exciting fighter.
My whole gripe is just take a step back and look at him like a normal fighter. Not a national icon. When you do that you will be able to see through the media smokescreen. Floyd fights for checks and he at times cripples the sport with that attitude. Manny has been fighting fighters and placing them at an unfair disadvantage. Thus crippling the sport. The PEDs thing, is one of those it is easy to prove wrong things. And he chose to run from it. So it is his fault he is looked at in this light. Just like it is Floyds fault he is looked at as a person that ducks good fighters. Just call it what it is, and that is what Manny fans cannot do. Like if someone came up and asked you if you were gay in front of 30 friends. If your answer was, "well I dont know, what are you, why do you want to know". Everything but saying "no". Well a good 25 of those 30 friends will go spread the word that you are gay. Why? Because it would have been very easy to just say "no". For Manny it would have been easier to just take the tests and fight. He took a blood test for Hatton. So his whole defense went out the window right there.
NICE!!! AGREE
i see it for what it is. i too wish he just took the test, but we all know it would not end there. mayweather's team will come up with something else. also,he does not dictate the rules. let's see if he asks his next fight to take te test. he was willing to take the test after the fight. if there was something, it would show. so, it's like someoned calling someone's mom a whore, so she must be one until she proves she's not. it goes both ways. but to accuse w/out proof is ridiculous. why don't you see it for what it is too. mayweather is finding ways to duck the fight. it is also determined that any epo is determined in urine.

http://www.wada-ama.org/rtecontent/document/QA_EPO_Detection_En.pdf

in the end, i see this as a plot to get people interested in this fight so much, so they can all make millions out of all of us...

[ January 12, 2010, 01:42 PM: Message edited by: SIC66 ]
 
Posted by rmadison007 (Member # 8670) on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by N8:
quote:
Originally posted by SIC66:
quote:
Originally posted by BATMOBILE:
Im a true boxing fan so you can add me to the mix... Yeah I do side with Puerto Rican fighters cuz that is what I am but I am also a boxing fan. I watch all fights.. ESPN fights, Mexican station fights, classic fights.. I watch them all. I watch boxing so much that every female Ive ever been with gets anoyed and says "how many times are you gonna watch that same fight" lol or "You say that thats one of the greatest fights you've ever seen to every fight you watch" hahaha. I dont hate on any particular fighter.. but when my guy is fighting someone all of a sudden that other guy becomes the target. It pisses me off that fans say "who cares if Pacquiao is on roids, ur mad cuz he whooped you fighters *ss..." Are you serious? Where is the pride in that? I am a huge Cotto, Felix Trinidad, Juanma, Lakers and 49ers fan. Everyone who's known me since i was little knows this about me. I stick thru my teams no mattter what. I stick with the crappy niners and the Lakers werent so hot in the early 90's after Magic left but I will tell you what... If I heard that Montana, Magic, Trinidad, Cotto... was on Roids I'd be devastated and would feel cheated... I know I wouldn't say "so what, we whooped your *ss" Real Talk...

i watch boxing a lot too. i actually like cotto. i was one of the people who thought pac might lose. i am loyal to my teams too, regardless of the situation. but to discredit pac w/out proof is just being ignorant and jumping in the band wagon. people tend to make excuses whenever he wins. everytime he fights, peopel always sya he's gonna get his ass whoop by this guy and that guy. after he wins, he won because of all this and that. that's when the excuses seems to come out. but people just can't accept the fact the he is a pretty good and exciting fighter.
My whole gripe is just take a step back and look at him like a normal fighter. Not a national icon. When you do that you will be able to see through the media smokescreen. Floyd fights for checks and he at times cripples the sport with that attitude. Manny has been fighting fighters and placing them at an unfair disadvantage. Thus crippling the sport. The PEDs thing, is one of those it is easy to prove wrong things. And he chose to run from it. So it is his fault he is looked at in this light. Just like it is Floyds fault he is looked at as a person that ducks good fighters. Just call it what it is, and that is what Manny fans cannot do. Like if someone came up and asked you if you were gay in front of 30 friends. If your answer was, "well I dont know, what are you, why do you want to know". Everything but saying "no". Well a good 25 of those 30 friends will go spread the word that you are gay. Why? Because it would have been very easy to just say "no". For Manny it would have been easier to just take the tests and fight. He took a blood test for Hatton. So his whole defense went out the window right there.
Exactly
 
Posted by Rigo5.0 (Member # 5247) on :
 
I watch a lot of sports news on TV, matter of fact all of them! I read a lot of articles online on a daily basis as well. 90% of what I have read thus far, is calling this another Mayweather duck! And I have YET to hear anything on TV saying that PAQ is under investigation for PED's. If this acquisition is so credible, why isn't the media all over this??? Doesn't make sense being that they were all over Bonds, McGuire, A-rod and so forth.
It's another duck by Mayweather and his crack-head lookin' daddy!
 
Posted by N8 (Member # 6048) on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by Rigo5.0:
I watch a lot of sports news on TV, matter of fact all of them! I read a lot of articles online on a daily basis as well. 90% of what I have read thus far, is calling this another Mayweather duck! And I have YET to hear anything on TV saying that PAQ is under investigation for PED's. If this acquisition is so credible, why isn't the media all over this??? Doesn't make sense being that they were all over Bonds, McGuire, A-rod and so forth.
It's another duck by Mayweather and his crack-head lookin' daddy!

How is requesting a simple ass test a duck? He didnt know Manny alergic to needles. but what was a duck attempt is that Manny's camp place a really absurd stipulation out there for 10 million per pound over 147 for either fighter. That request was admittedly sent out because they thought Mayweather would not go for it. This came from their camp. So if I want to fight you and I say "If you want to fight me, we have to do it on hot coals". That is so ridiculous you would instantly think "this dude dont really want to fight". But if you in turn said "OK". See now I am stuck. This is what essentially happened to Manny. Manny saw how Mayweather paid the 60k to Marquez and came through and blew out a fighter that gave Manny all he can handle. So if like I said take step back and withdraw your fanhood. you can form a non-biased opinion. And dont forget, Mayweather is not the first to accuse Manny of PEDs. He is just the one who has done it with enough star-power to make it viable. So essentially Manny is suing his star power. Just try it. Take a step back. Read, Watch, Pay attention to everyones posturing and statements. Then evaluate by simile, metaphor, personification what ever you want to use. And you will see that Manny is full shit.
 
Posted by rmadison007 (Member # 8670) on :
 
How is exactly is it a duck? Mayweather has gone on the record saying he wants to fight Pacquiao...Every fighter who has been interviewed about the situation said that they would have no problem testing for a fight and do not understand why Pacquiao would be walking away from a fight over that unless he is dirty...No investigation, but continous coverage about accusations from mutiple sources stating the Pacquiao is on PEDs...Why do you think Pacquiao new opponent has the same promoter as him?...No PEDs testing...You would think he could have negogiated a fight with another fighter who would allow him to dictate the terms of the testing, but nope, just fight someone without testing...Also what about Pacquiao choice to fight Cotto over Moseley because Cotto style was easier...remember they were in negogiations before the Cotto fight...Avoiding a suspected PEDs user isn't bad, just smart...People Floyd has recently avoided fighting...Mosely, Margatito, Pacquiao, and Cotto...The only clean one is Cotto and he fought all three and look what happened to his legacy...He could have lost to all three and all are suspected cheater...This shit is getting old!
 
Posted by Rigo5.0 (Member # 5247) on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by N8:
quote:
Originally posted by Rigo5.0:
I watch a lot of sports news on TV, matter of fact all of them! I read a lot of articles online on a daily basis as well. 90% of what I have read thus far, is calling this another Mayweather duck! And I have YET to hear anything on TV saying that PAQ is under investigation for PED's. If this acquisition is so credible, why isn't the media all over this??? Doesn't make sense being that they were all over Bonds, McGuire, A-rod and so forth.
It's another duck by Mayweather and his crack-head lookin' daddy!

How is requesting a simple ass test a duck? He didnt know Manny alergic to needles. but what was a duck attempt is that Manny's camp place a really absurd stipulation out there for 10 million per pound over 147 for either fighter. That request was admittedly sent out because they thought Mayweather would not go for it. This came from their camp. So if I want to fight you and I say "If you want to fight me, we have to do it on hot coals". That is so ridiculous you would instantly think "this dude dont really want to fight". But if you in turn said "OK". See now I am stuck. This is what essentially happened to Manny. Manny saw how Mayweather paid the 60k to Marquez and came through and blew out a fighter that gave Manny all he can handle. So if like I said take step back and withdraw your fanhood. you can form a non-biased opinion. And dont forget, Mayweather is not the first to accuse Manny of PEDs. He is just the one who has done it with enough star-power to make it viable. So essentially Manny is suing his star power. Just try it. Take a step back. Read, Watch, Pay attention to everyones posturing and statements. Then evaluate by simile, metaphor, personification what ever you want to use. And you will see that Manny is full shit.
I'm not even of fan of PAQ, I just call by what I see. The articles that I have read as I have posted on here, as well as other members, state that PAQ agreed to do at least 3 blood tests. I'm sure you watch ESPN and other sports shows... How many times have you heard a mentioning that Manny is being considered as a PED user?
My point really is that something is not right on the reports or claims on whole test thing. If it were, the media would eat this up!!! They wouldn't be able to stop talking about it with as much success as Manny has had. All the strutinizing on Manny is really from members on this board!
For all I know Manny is on roids but, there isn't enough info or enough credible sources to jusitfy right now that he is a cheater.

[ January 12, 2010, 02:19 PM: Message edited by: Rigo5.0 ]
 
Posted by N8 (Member # 6048) on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by Rigo5.0:
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Originally posted by N8:
quote:
Originally posted by Rigo5.0:
I watch a lot of sports news on TV, matter of fact all of them! I read a lot of articles online on a daily basis as well. 90% of what I have read thus far, is calling this another Mayweather duck! And I have YET to hear anything on TV saying that PAQ is under investigation for PED's. If this acquisition is so credible, why isn't the media all over this??? Doesn't make sense being that they were all over Bonds, McGuire, A-rod and so forth.
It's another duck by Mayweather and his crack-head lookin' daddy!

How is requesting a simple ass test a duck? He didnt know Manny alergic to needles. but what was a duck attempt is that Manny's camp place a really absurd stipulation out there for 10 million per pound over 147 for either fighter. That request was admittedly sent out because they thought Mayweather would not go for it. This came from their camp. So if I want to fight you and I say "If you want to fight me, we have to do it on hot coals". That is so ridiculous you would instantly think "this dude dont really want to fight". But if you in turn said "OK". See now I am stuck. This is what essentially happened to Manny. Manny saw how Mayweather paid the 60k to Marquez and came through and blew out a fighter that gave Manny all he can handle. So if like I said take step back and withdraw your fanhood. you can form a non-biased opinion. And dont forget, Mayweather is not the first to accuse Manny of PEDs. He is just the one who has done it with enough star-power to make it viable. So essentially Manny is suing his star power. Just try it. Take a step back. Read, Watch, Pay attention to everyones posturing and statements. Then evaluate by simile, metaphor, personification what ever you want to use. And you will see that Manny is full shit.
I'm not even of fan of PAQ, I just call by what I see. The articles that I have read as I have posted on here, as well as other members, state that PAQ agreed to do at least 3 blood tests. I'm sure you watch ESPN and other sports shows... How many times have you heard a mentioning that Manny is not being considered as a PED user?
My point really is that something is not right on the reports or claims on whole test thing. If it were, the media would eat this up!!! They wouldn't be able to stop talking about it with as much success as Manny has had. All the strutinizing on Manny is really from members on this board!
For all I know Manny is on roids but, there isn't enough info or enough credible sources to jusitfy right now that he is a cheater.

oh believe they are chompin at the bit. The media will let you build yourself up to the stratosphere.

He agreed to 3 tests. At the kick off press conference January, 30 days before the fight February and one right after. And not to be random. Every sanctioning organization involved with testing said that would be totally ineffective. So in essence he did not agree to fair competition.

But what is funny is Mayweather proposed 14 days before and he can pick the agency and he said no. but that is exactly what he did for Hatton, 14 days before. But I think the test was for hepatitis or something or other so he wasnt trippin. Analyze all news sources and supporting reports and you will start to see that Manny is guilty. Even now his camp is fighting Clottey and they are saying that how unfair a catch weight would be for Clottey. Well why did you do a catch weight for Cotto?
 
Posted by rmadison007 (Member # 8670) on :
 
Pacquiao has agreed to this
3 Blood tests and unlimited random urine testing
1st test 60 days before the fight
2nd test 24 days before the fight
3rd test immediately after the fight

When his testing protocal was reviewed by the CEO Olympic Drug Testing Commitee as well as the Nevada Boxig Commission Doctors they all said that the would make the testing ineffective and useless...

Once that information came out Pacquiao then went one to say well then I will only do blood testing if it is required by the Nevada Boxing Commission to Box in Nevada...He already knew that the commission would not have time to create blood testing protocal in time for a March fight so he was basically saying he was not going to do testing....

What most people don't understand is that 90% of the mainstream media despises Mayweather. Many writers and blogger do not like Mayweather in contrast to Pacquiao based on their completely different attitudes and lifestyles. This is the real reason he is not being thrown under the bus yet because the last thing a Mayweather hater wants is to make Mayweather look like he is doing the right thing...That why 90% of the articles you read are blaming Mayweather...Read this article which appropriately analyzes who is to blame for this fight not happening...

http://bleacherreport.com/articles/324401-fight-jacking-the-sad-fiasco-that-was-mayweather-pacquiao

Bottomline, this situation and conversation would be mute, if Pacquiao really wanted to fight Mayweather...With Pacquiao gentlemen qualities outside the ring that his fans rave about and him consistingly saying he fights for his fans...then exactly when did his fans say "Forget Mayweather the undefeated P4P #2, Fight Clottey an unranked P4P, who lost to Cotto who you just destroyed"...Yeah that what we want to see Manny...
 
Posted by blackfifty (Member # 9023) on :
 
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Originally posted by SydeWaySix:
I think all these fucks that keep hating are just jealous and somewhat RACIST! Yea, you may not be dropping racial names towards filipinos or anything, but its just hard to believe for most of the haters that Pac is a small ass FILIPINO whoopin ass! Roids or not, if he wins, you hate...if he loses, you hate. Why cant you just realize he's a raw ass fighter whos faster than all the shit heads that YOU'RE rooting for! Its hella annoying hearing and reading this shit..bet your ass wouldnt say it to his face though!

And to put the cherry on top, yea, maybe we're not "true boxing fans" [Roll Eyes] but who the fuck is? N8? who else???? You guys are just jealous of the pride that we have in our country cuz you can't say the same!!!! [dance]

I know your frustrated bro but tone it down a bit. Why get mad about someones opinion. I myself am a true boxing fan not because i watch it but because i've been boxing since i was about eleven, and like n8 said boxing is suffering alot because of mayweather and pacquiao not being able to resolve their problems and in essence being too picky about who they fight and the stipulations of the fight. They're both great fighters but they're no way near the class of Hagler, Hearns, Joe Louis, Marciano, Duran, Cesar Chavez. Because they dont fight the best its sad and not to take away from any of their accomplishments but people need to stop saying that theyre the best of all time, just in this era.
 
Posted by blackfifty (Member # 9023) on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by SIC66:
quote:
Originally posted by SydeWaySix:
I think all these fucks that keep hating are just jealous and somewhat RACIST! Yea, you may not be dropping racial names towards filipinos or anything, but its just hard to believe for most of the haters that Pac is a small ass FILIPINO whoopin ass! Roids or not, if he wins, you hate...if he loses, you hate. Why cant you just realize he's a raw ass fighter whos faster than all the shit heads that YOU'RE rooting for! Its hella annoying hearing and reading this shit..bet your ass wouldnt say it to his face though!

And to put the cherry on top, yea, maybe we're not "true boxing fans" [Roll Eyes] but who the fuck is? N8? who else???? You guys are just jealous of the pride that we have in our country cuz you can't say the same!!!! [dance]

couldn't agree with you more... these motherf***ers always got some negative shit to say. even if pac is on roids, it doesn't mean he can win them all. you know how you know they're HATERS, cuz they don't have anything positive to say about it at all. it's always excuses all the time. and then they turn it into a race thing. BITCH PLEASE...
Man if everyone had your opinion and said steriods was ok Jose Canseco, Mark Mcgwire, and Barry Bonds will all be in the hall of fame [Roll Eyes]
 
Posted by N8 (Member # 6048) on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by blackfifty:
quote:
Originally posted by SydeWaySix:
I think all these fucks that keep hating are just jealous and somewhat RACIST! Yea, you may not be dropping racial names towards filipinos or anything, but its just hard to believe for most of the haters that Pac is a small ass FILIPINO whoopin ass! Roids or not, if he wins, you hate...if he loses, you hate. Why cant you just realize he's a raw ass fighter whos faster than all the shit heads that YOU'RE rooting for! Its hella annoying hearing and reading this shit..bet your ass wouldnt say it to his face though!

And to put the cherry on top, yea, maybe we're not "true boxing fans" [Roll Eyes] but who the fuck is? N8? who else???? You guys are just jealous of the pride that we have in our country cuz you can't say the same!!!! [dance]

I know your frustrated bro but tone it down a bit. Why get mad about someones opinion. I myself am a true boxing fan not because i watch it but because i've been boxing since i was about eleven, and like n8 said boxing is suffering alot because of mayweather and pacquiao not being able to resolve their problems and in essence being too picky about who they fight and the stipulations of the fight. They're both great fighters but they're no way near the class of Hagler, Hearns, Joe Louis, Marciano, Duran, Cesar Chavez. Because they dont fight the best its sad and not to take away from any of their accomplishments but people need to stop saying that theyre the best of all time, just in this era.
I would beat the living snot out of Manny Pacquaio...lmao.

True boxing fans know what the real is. It seems like hate because he represents a country to you. Personally if he just fought how everyone else did he would by far be my fav boxer. but I box and I know first have what a couple pounds here and there would do to a boxer. So I speak from perspective of fan of boxing not of mayweather or manny.

As for racist, my best damn friend of over 20 years is filipino. The only filipino I know that survived in uptown New Orleans...lol. And now fights for our country. So go somewhere with the bullshit. I probably been to phillipnies more than most Filipinos dammit. And know more cuss word in Filipino too...lol. Calm down man. Aint nobody hatin because his nationality.
 




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