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Posted by 87GTCOBRA (Member # 7845) on
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ANYWAYS SO I GET UP AT 530 THIS MORNING AND IM WATCH THE NEWS. THEY SHOULD PEOPLE IN OAKLAND PROTESTING THE JUSTICE FOR LOVELL MIXION ( THE OBE WHO SHOT THE COPS) THE MARCHED THREW EAST OAKLAND WANTING JUSTICE TO BE DONE? ![[Confused]](confused.gif)
Posted by 87GTCOBRA (Member # 7845) on
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ha typein little fast. the showed people in oakland marching and protesting justice for this guy? what justice is to be done agianst oakland police.
Posted by Platinum Detail (Member # 8026) on
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from a diff point of view this case was bad but cops have killed inocent people before or killed people that did not deserve it. they are just tired of it and feel they need to stand up for what they nelive in. probly the wrong time but....
Posted by 306Coupe (Member # 4988) on
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possible if you keep the spotlight on Oakland, OPD won't seek revenge.
Posted by 90gtvert (Member # 8697) on
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Fucking idiots.
Posted by 427 StRoKeR 94 GT (Member # 8722) on
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Wtf is wrong with those people dude got what he Deserved
Posted by 532Fastback (Member # 1482) on
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They want justice for a rapist cop killer?
These people are a joke
Posted by 90gtvert (Member # 8697) on
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I wonder how many of them would end up in jail if the police searched them and ran a background check.
Posted by warhorse58gt (Member # 7702) on
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Originally posted by 306Coupe:
possible if you keep the spotlight on Oakland, OPD won't seek revenge.
maybe it's the good people of oakland time, to seek revenage on people that rape 12 year old girls.. just a thought.
Posted by slowback67 (Member # 6348) on
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Originally posted by warhorse58gt:
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Originally posted by 306Coupe:
possible if you keep the spotlight on Oakland, OPD won't seek revenge.
maybe it's the good people of oakland time, to seek revenage on people that rape 12 year old girls.. just a thought.
yep the good people of Oakland need to ban together and work with OPD to get these criminals off the streets and keep them I'm jail.
Posted by slowback67 (Member # 6348) on
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did anyone catch why mixons sister or cousin was arested ?
Please tell me she's not the one who called the cops
Posted by 87GTCOBRA (Member # 7845) on
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SHE GOT A DRUG CHARGE OR SOMETHING LIKE THAT
Posted by 70mach351 (Member # 7528) on
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Posted by NOTCHED UP ^___^ (Member # 6371) on
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Originally posted by 306Coupe:
possible if you keep the spotlight on Oakland, OPD won't seek revenge.
i too agree he got wat he deserved but only HE knows is own stupid reasoning 4 doin it. but like wat 306coupe is sayin could possibly be right i been in oakland all my life and done seen and been around alot of shit not proud of it but ppl make mistakes and i STAY gettin pulled over in my stang and now every time a cop gets killed they be a holes for at least a month. They cover there badges and really harass ppl they pull over. Trust me i've been thru it more than my share. Now this recent incident to be honest wit u i am a lil nervous to get stopped right now. So maybe keepin the spotlight on them may jus help
Posted by 306Coupe (Member # 4988) on
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Originally posted by slowback67:
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Originally posted by warhorse58gt:
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Originally posted by 306Coupe:
possible if you keep the spotlight on Oakland, OPD won't seek revenge.
maybe it's the good people of oakland time, to seek revenage on people that rape 12 year old girls.. just a thought.
yep the good people of Oakland need to ban together and work with OPD to get these criminals off the streets and keep them I'm jail.
Community doesn't trust the police, including myself. There are a long list of reason I don't trust them and a big reason for that is they don't live in Oakland so they don't really care much about the city. Do you think a person chooses to be an Oakland police officer to make a difference? Or could it be that on an average they are paid over 100k and starting salary is 77k?
I feel the police needs to come around and walk the beat to show the community they care and that they are there for them. In alot of the others cities you actually see the police talking to the residences
[ March 26, 2009, 01:53 PM: Message edited by: 306Coupe ]
Posted by 90gtvert (Member # 8697) on
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Originally posted by NOTCHED UP ^___^:
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Originally posted by 306Coupe:
possible if you keep the spotlight on Oakland, OPD won't seek revenge.
i too agree he got wat he deserved but only HE knows is own stupid reasoning 4 doin it. but like wat 306coupe is sayin could possibly be right i been in oakland all my life and done seen and been around alot of shit not proud of it but ppl make mistakes and i STAY gettin pulled over in my stang and now every time a cop gets killed they be a holes for at least a month. They cover there badges and really harass ppl they pull over. Trust me i've been thru it more than my share. Now this recent incident to be honest wit u i am a lil nervous to get stopped right now. So maybe keepin the spotlight on them may jus help
So if its gets that bad in Oakland, why not move to somewhere where there is less of this? Better to raise a family in an envirmoment where this does not happen, so that hatred of the police is not bred into the next generation.
Mike
Posted by 1FAST89GT (Member # 5071) on
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Originally posted by 306Coupe:
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Originally posted by slowback67:
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Originally posted by warhorse58gt:
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Originally posted by 306Coupe:
possible if you keep the spotlight on Oakland, OPD won't seek revenge.
maybe it's the good people of oakland time, to seek revenage on people that rape 12 year old girls.. just a thought.
yep the good people of Oakland need to ban together and work with OPD to get these criminals off the streets and keep them I'm jail.
Community doesn't trust the police, including myself. There are a long list of reason I don't trust them and a big reason for that is they don't live in Oakland so they don't really care much about the city. Do you think a person chooses to be an Oakland police officer to make a difference? Or could it be that on an average they are paid over 100k and starting salary is 77k?
I feel the police needs to come around and walk the beat to show the community they care and that they are there for them. In alot of the others cities you actually see the police talking to the residences
u don't live in oakland either. so why do u care? i would be more worried about Benicia police than opd for u.
Posted by NOTCHED UP ^___^ (Member # 6371) on
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Originally posted by 306Coupe:
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Originally posted by slowback67:
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Originally posted by warhorse58gt:
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Originally posted by 306Coupe:
possible if you keep the spotlight on Oakland, OPD won't seek revenge.
maybe it's the good people of oakland time, to seek revenage on people that rape 12 year old girls.. just a thought.
yep the good people of Oakland need to ban together and work with OPD to get these criminals off the streets and keep them I'm jail.
Community doesn't trust the police, including myself. There are a long list of reason I don't trust them and a big reason for that is they don't live in Oakland so they don't really care much about the city. Do you think a person chooses to be an Oakland police officer to make a difference? Or could it be that on an average they are paid over 100k and starting salary is 77k?
I feel the police needs to come around and walk the beat to show the community they care and that they are there for them. In alot of the others cities you actually see the police talking to the residences
+1 its not my city that that i get harrassed but it is 90% of the time. like wen i be in brentwood ive seen officers out walkin arounf on bikes etc. hell i even got stppped and we talked about cars fpr at least 30 mins. popped the hood everything. so to me that jus shows not all cops are out to get u jus CERTAIN ones dont giv a shit about the so called city they protect and serve
Posted by gtowned. (Member # 8156) on
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Originally posted by 90gtvert:
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Originally posted by NOTCHED UP ^___^:
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Originally posted by 306Coupe:
possible if you keep the spotlight on Oakland, OPD won't seek revenge.
i too agree he got wat he deserved but only HE knows is own stupid reasoning 4 doin it. but like wat 306coupe is sayin could possibly be right i been in oakland all my life and done seen and been around alot of shit not proud of it but ppl make mistakes and i STAY gettin pulled over in my stang and now every time a cop gets killed they be a holes for at least a month. They cover there badges and really harass ppl they pull over. Trust me i've been thru it more than my share. Now this recent incident to be honest wit u i am a lil nervous to get stopped right now. So maybe keepin the spotlight on them may jus help
So if its gets that bad in Oakland, why not move to somewhere where there is less of this? Better to raise a family in an envirmoment where this does not happen, so that hatred of the police is not bred into the next generation.
Mike
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Posted by 306Coupe (Member # 4988) on
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Originally posted by 1FAST89GT:
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Originally posted by 306Coupe:
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Originally posted by slowback67:
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Originally posted by warhorse58gt:
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Originally posted by 306Coupe:
possible if you keep the spotlight on Oakland, OPD won't seek revenge.
maybe it's the good people of oakland time, to seek revenage on people that rape 12 year old girls.. just a thought.
yep the good people of Oakland need to ban together and work with OPD to get these criminals off the streets and keep them I'm jail.
Community doesn't trust the police, including myself. There are a long list of reason I don't trust them and a big reason for that is they don't live in Oakland so they don't really care much about the city. Do you think a person chooses to be an Oakland police officer to make a difference? Or could it be that on an average they are paid over 100k and starting salary is 77k?
I feel the police needs to come around and walk the beat to show the community they care and that they are there for them. In alot of the others cities you actually see the police talking to the residences
u don't live in oakland either. so why do u care? i would be more worried about Benicia police than opd for u.
Just because I don't live there anymore doesn't mean I shouldn't care about the city I've grown up in. And yes I've been harassed by Benicia police when I drove my mustang or caprice, I've never been pulled over in my 05 Camry
I thought this was a post about solutions? At least that's what I orginally read
Posted by slowback67 (Member # 6348) on
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306 coupe
wow so your telling me the only reason my brother became an Oakland officer is so he could make good money? That kind of remark is a slap in the face to every cop that goes to work to make the streets a safer place... I had said in an previous post that some cops can be dicks(think on page 3) I went on to say if you had to deal with people like this it would change the way you feel.
I personally never got the chance to meet these men but I have heard good stories about them...they were all "good" cops to my knowlege.
not all people become cops for the money... Or the power... It may suprise you but some do it because they war to make a
Difference and stand up for what's right and punish those who seek to harm people... I know my brother is one of them..that's all I can say now cause I'm about to break down again. ![[Whoo Whooooo!]](graemlins/woowoo.gif)
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[ March 26, 2009, 02:32 PM: Message edited by: slowback67 ]
Posted by 306Coupe (Member # 4988) on
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Originally posted by slowback67:
306 coupe
wow so your telling me the only reason my brother became an Oakland officer is so he could make good money? That kind of remark is a slap in the face to every cop that goes to work to make the streets a safer place... I had said in an previous post that some cops can be dicks(think on page 3) I went on to say if you had to deal with people like this it would change the way you feel.
I personally never got the chance to meet these men but I have heard good stories about them...they were all "good" cops to my knowlege.
not all people become cops for the money... Or the power... It may suprise you but some do it because they war to make a
Difference and stand up for what's right and punish those who seek to harm people... I know my brother is one of them..that's all I can say now cause I'm about to break down again.
Sorry but through my experiences with the Oakland PD, I've came across a handful of decent police. Of course I am only speaking for myself and I haven't dealt with ever OPD. The idea of making the streets a better place cannot be done by one police office, it has to do with the policies in place and manner in which they are enforced. Most of the people on this forum feelings towards the people who live in Oalkand are forged from what you see on T.V. or the few people you have dealt with. The same would go for the residence in oakland and their feelings towards the OPD.
I do believe there are some cops who become police officers to better the community but they are very limited to what they , themselves can accomplish.
My suggestion to making oakland a safer place still stands to have police officers assigned to certain areas and have them interact more
Posted by N8 (Member # 6048) on
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Originally posted by 1FAST89GT:
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Originally posted by 306Coupe:
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Originally posted by slowback67:
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Originally posted by warhorse58gt:
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Originally posted by 306Coupe:
possible if you keep the spotlight on Oakland, OPD won't seek revenge.
maybe it's the good people of oakland time, to seek revenage on people that rape 12 year old girls.. just a thought.
yep the good people of Oakland need to ban together and work with OPD to get these criminals off the streets and keep them I'm jail.
Community doesn't trust the police, including myself. There are a long list of reason I don't trust them and a big reason for that is they don't live in Oakland so they don't really care much about the city. Do you think a person chooses to be an Oakland police officer to make a difference? Or could it be that on an average they are paid over 100k and starting salary is 77k?
I feel the police needs to come around and walk the beat to show the community they care and that they are there for them. In alot of the others cities you actually see the police talking to the residences
u don't live in oakland either. so why do u care? i would be more worried about Benicia police than opd for u.
I do not live there as well anymore. But Oakland was a second home for me. And I was heavily involved in donating my time to the youths at one point. It is a real troubled city on a whole scale. There is racial divide, economic divide, civil divide, and a justice divide. It is a mess. Most officers do not relate to the residents and most resident do not trust the officers. That is a serious divide, which leads to senseless protests, frivolous law suits, wrongful deaths, harrasment....you name it Oakland has it going on.
In New Orleans they had officers taking up residence in the community they patrolled. But all that made them do is become the heavy weights in the dope game in that given area. It really has to come from the top on down to the police to have that trust and security restored.
Posted by Hozr (Member # 6196) on
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I say fuck it. The people of Oakland don't want the police, fine, they should pull out because their lives aren't worth it. Build a wall around that dump and show it on TV like the game show it will become. If the people want to step up and fix it themselves they will, or it will become a smoldering heap within a year. Either way, problem solved.
The hypocrisy in Oakland is amazing. Cop shoots a kind and the people blame the cops. Kid shoots 4 cops and people blame the cops.....? WTF
I was at the East Sub Station a few weeks ago and was amazed at the absolute lawlessness of the people; zero respect for everyone and everything including themselves. I'm actually amazed at what the citizens put up with down there.
Why would you want to live there? Why would you want to live like that? Why does OPD put up with it when they know they can't win? These are serious questions that I can't begin to fathom the answers too.
RIP to four fallen officers. Remember, don't put yourself in bad situations and bad things won't happen to you.
Posted by InkedWhiteboy (Member # 8724) on
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Bottom line to end this dispute between you fellas is that there are good officers and bad officers, just like there are good citizens and bad citizens. Imagine the world we live in without any type of piece officer in it. We would live in chaos and disaster. Trust me I am a tatted up whiteboy and I get my fair share of harrasment as well I have been cuffed and held at gunpoint while they search my ride and say it was just a big misunderstanding. It is B.S. but in the end the first person to always be there if we are in and auto accident in a Police officer, they are always the ones that put there ass on the line reguardless of the situation. Bottom line I am thankful for the good ones and the bad ones have Karma in there future. God bless the families of the fallen officers from this week, and we may never know the true details but to protest one persons death to the four lives that were lost to his seems a bit hypocritical to me..
Posted by 427 StRoKeR 94 GT (Member # 8722) on
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Well said ^ ^^
Posted by slowback67 (Member # 6348) on
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Originally posted by InkedWhiteboy:
Bottom line to end this dispute between you fellas is that there are good officers and bad officers, just like there are good citizens and bad citizens. Imagine the world we live in without any type of piece officer in it. We would live in chaos and disaster. Trust me I am a tatted up whiteboy and I get my fair share of harrasment as well I have been cuffed and held at gunpoint while they search my ride and say it was just a big misunderstanding. It is B.S. but in the end the first person to always be there if we are in and auto accident in a Police officer, they are always the ones that put there ass on the line reguardless of the situation. Bottom line I am thankful for the good ones and the bad ones have Karma in there future. God bless the families of the fallen officers from this week, and we may never know the true details but to protest one persons death to the four lives that were lost to his seems a bit hypocritical to me..
Posted by AL STOCK (Member # 1852) on
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Originally posted by slowback67:
I had said in an previous post that some cops can be dicks(think on page 3) I went on to say if you had to deal with people like this it would change the way you feel.
Had to deal with people will change your attitude? Being an Officer, you are sworn to be honest, and to protect and serve your community. Now if your attitude changes as you work, then you aren't fit for your job. I suggest a change of profession.
Posted by AL STOCK (Member # 1852) on
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Originally posted by InkedWhiteboy:
Bottom line to end this dispute between you fellas is that there are good officers and bad officers, just like there are good citizens and bad citizens. Imagine the world we live in without any type of piece officer in it. We would live in chaos and disaster. Trust me I am a tatted up whiteboy and I get my fair share of harrasment as well I have been cuffed and held at gunpoint while they search my ride and say it was just a big misunderstanding. It is B.S. but in the end the first person to always be there if we are in and auto accident in a Police officer, they are always the ones that put there ass on the line reguardless of the situation. Bottom line I am thankful for the good ones and the bad ones have Karma in there future. God bless the families of the fallen officers from this week, and we may never know the true details but to protest one persons death to the four lives that were lost to his seems a bit hypocritical to me..
Posted by hawaii5.0 (Member # 4675) on
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I've been harrased by cops on many occassions just for being a young black male but I'm not going to start shooting and killing cops to get justice...one thing has absolutely nothing to do with the other...OPD does have a history but that doesn't mean these cops deserved what happened...The thing that concerns me the most is the fact that these people are rallying behind a known rapist...everyone has a sister, cousin, neice, aunt or whatever and they still want to seek justice for this piece of shit...but whatever to each their own...just my .02
Posted by N8 (Member # 6048) on
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Originally posted by InkedWhiteboy:
Bottom line to end this dispute between you fellas is that there are good officers and bad officers, just like there are good citizens and bad citizens. Imagine the world we live in without any type of piece officer in it. We would live in chaos and disaster. Trust me I am a tatted up whiteboy and I get my fair share of harrasment as well I have been cuffed and held at gunpoint while they search my ride and say it was just a big misunderstanding. It is B.S. but in the end the first person to always be there if we are in and auto accident in a Police officer, they are always the ones that put there ass on the line reguardless of the situation. Bottom line I am thankful for the good ones and the bad ones have Karma in there future. God bless the families of the fallen officers from this week, and we may never know the true details but to protest one persons death to the four lives that were lost to his seems a bit hypocritical to me..
If you notice the ones not understanding or having a complaint are either A) not from there. or B) Not from there and dont plan to go there. So it is very easy to have a "moral of the story" or a "bottom line" type resolution. But believe me fellas. It is not that cut and dry. And no one ever said that they did not want the police. They want fair treatment by the police. And that is not too much to ask in my opinion.
In the end we all have opinions and not saying mine is right. But just think about the other half of the coin and maybe that will help calm all the "Oakland residents are trash" statements. Also I to think to protest this is really ridiculous. But most feel "hell the score is like 16-4". Which is wrong to think that way, but you can't really blame them. (oh and 16 is a made up number. just used to drive a point home)
Posted by 90gtvert (Member # 8697) on
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Originally posted by N8:
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Originally posted by InkedWhiteboy:
Bottom line to end this dispute between you fellas is that there are good officers and bad officers, just like there are good citizens and bad citizens. Imagine the world we live in without any type of piece officer in it. We would live in chaos and disaster. Trust me I am a tatted up whiteboy and I get my fair share of harrasment as well I have been cuffed and held at gunpoint while they search my ride and say it was just a big misunderstanding. It is B.S. but in the end the first person to always be there if we are in and auto accident in a Police officer, they are always the ones that put there ass on the line reguardless of the situation. Bottom line I am thankful for the good ones and the bad ones have Karma in there future. God bless the families of the fallen officers from this week, and we may never know the true details but to protest one persons death to the four lives that were lost to his seems a bit hypocritical to me..
If you notice the ones not understanding or having a complaint are either A) not from there. or B) Not from there and dont plan to go there. So it is very easy to have a "moral of the story" or a "bottom line" type resolution. But believe me fellas. It is not that cut and dry. And no one ever said that they did not want the police. They want fair treatment by the police. And that is not too much to ask in my opinion.
In the end we all have opinions and not saying mine is right. But just think about the other half of the coin and maybe that will help calm all the "Oakland residents are trash" statements. Also I to think to protest this is really ridiculous. But most feel "hell the score is like 16-4". Which is wrong to think that way, but you can't really blame them. (oh and 16 is a made up number. just used to drive a point home)
People need to leave then, so they provide a better enviroment for there kids. Yes, it may be your "home" but at some point you need to do whats right for yourself and your family.
All we here is Oakland is so horrible this, the cops are so horrible that. Well there is always greener grass, all it takes is will power and determination to better your situations and surroundings.
Mike
Posted by N8 (Member # 6048) on
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Originally posted by 90gtvert:
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Originally posted by N8:
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Originally posted by InkedWhiteboy:
Bottom line to end this dispute between you fellas is that there are good officers and bad officers, just like there are good citizens and bad citizens. Imagine the world we live in without any type of piece officer in it. We would live in chaos and disaster. Trust me I am a tatted up whiteboy and I get my fair share of harrasment as well I have been cuffed and held at gunpoint while they search my ride and say it was just a big misunderstanding. It is B.S. but in the end the first person to always be there if we are in and auto accident in a Police officer, they are always the ones that put there ass on the line reguardless of the situation. Bottom line I am thankful for the good ones and the bad ones have Karma in there future. God bless the families of the fallen officers from this week, and we may never know the true details but to protest one persons death to the four lives that were lost to his seems a bit hypocritical to me..
If you notice the ones not understanding or having a complaint are either A) not from there. or B) Not from there and dont plan to go there. So it is very easy to have a "moral of the story" or a "bottom line" type resolution. But believe me fellas. It is not that cut and dry. And no one ever said that they did not want the police. They want fair treatment by the police. And that is not too much to ask in my opinion.
In the end we all have opinions and not saying mine is right. But just think about the other half of the coin and maybe that will help calm all the "Oakland residents are trash" statements. Also I to think to protest this is really ridiculous. But most feel "hell the score is like 16-4". Which is wrong to think that way, but you can't really blame them. (oh and 16 is a made up number. just used to drive a point home)
People need to leave then, so they provide a better enviroment for there kids. Yes, it may be your "home" but at some point you need to do whats right for yourself and your family.
All we here is Oakland is so horrible this, the cops are so horrible that. Well there is always greener grass, all it takes is will power and determination to better your situations and surroundings.
Mike
Again you make it sound so easy. I was fortunate to do it and it took basketball mixed with my own volition. But it really isnt that easy. Again you wont understand it until you live it. Hell if it weren't for my aunt I would probably be still in The Boot.
[ March 26, 2009, 06:24 PM: Message edited by: N8 ]
Posted by 90gtvert (Member # 8697) on
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Originally posted by N8:
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Originally posted by 90gtvert:
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Originally posted by N8:
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Originally posted by InkedWhiteboy:
Bottom line to end this dispute between you fellas is that there are good officers and bad officers, just like there are good citizens and bad citizens. Imagine the world we live in without any type of piece officer in it. We would live in chaos and disaster. Trust me I am a tatted up whiteboy and I get my fair share of harrasment as well I have been cuffed and held at gunpoint while they search my ride and say it was just a big misunderstanding. It is B.S. but in the end the first person to always be there if we are in and auto accident in a Police officer, they are always the ones that put there ass on the line reguardless of the situation. Bottom line I am thankful for the good ones and the bad ones have Karma in there future. God bless the families of the fallen officers from this week, and we may never know the true details but to protest one persons death to the four lives that were lost to his seems a bit hypocritical to me..
If you notice the ones not understanding or having a complaint are either A) not from there. or B) Not from there and dont plan to go there. So it is very easy to have a "moral of the story" or a "bottom line" type resolution. But believe me fellas. It is not that cut and dry. And no one ever said that they did not want the police. They want fair treatment by the police. And that is not too much to ask in my opinion.
In the end we all have opinions and not saying mine is right. But just think about the other half of the coin and maybe that will help calm all the "Oakland residents are trash" statements. Also I to think to protest this is really ridiculous. But most feel "hell the score is like 16-4". Which is wrong to think that way, but you can't really blame them. (oh and 16 is a made up number. just used to drive a point home)
People need to leave then, so they provide a better enviroment for there kids. Yes, it may be your "home" but at some point you need to do whats right for yourself and your family.
All we here is Oakland is so horrible this, the cops are so horrible that. Well there is always greener grass, all it takes is will power and determination to better your situations and surroundings.
Mike
Again you make it sound so easy. I was fortunate to do it and it took basketball mixed with my own volition. But it really isnt that easy. Again you wont understand it until you live it. Hell if it weren't for my aunt I would probably be still in The Boot.
Hey N8,
Your right, to me it is that easy. All the stuff you earn and did because you wanted it bad enough right? You had the willpower and motivation to do it. I do not look on that as fortunate. You busted your ass to be where you are at today. Fortunate is to win the lotto. Hard work and determiniation will get you where you need to go.
If more people had the will and determination to do what you did, there would be less occurances of this.
Posted by N8 (Member # 6048) on
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Originally posted by 90gtvert:
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Originally posted by N8:
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Originally posted by 90gtvert:
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Originally posted by N8:
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Originally posted by InkedWhiteboy:
Bottom line to end this dispute between you fellas is that there are good officers and bad officers, just like there are good citizens and bad citizens. Imagine the world we live in without any type of piece officer in it. We would live in chaos and disaster. Trust me I am a tatted up whiteboy and I get my fair share of harrasment as well I have been cuffed and held at gunpoint while they search my ride and say it was just a big misunderstanding. It is B.S. but in the end the first person to always be there if we are in and auto accident in a Police officer, they are always the ones that put there ass on the line reguardless of the situation. Bottom line I am thankful for the good ones and the bad ones have Karma in there future. God bless the families of the fallen officers from this week, and we may never know the true details but to protest one persons death to the four lives that were lost to his seems a bit hypocritical to me..
If you notice the ones not understanding or having a complaint are either A) not from there. or B) Not from there and dont plan to go there. So it is very easy to have a "moral of the story" or a "bottom line" type resolution. But believe me fellas. It is not that cut and dry. And no one ever said that they did not want the police. They want fair treatment by the police. And that is not too much to ask in my opinion.
In the end we all have opinions and not saying mine is right. But just think about the other half of the coin and maybe that will help calm all the "Oakland residents are trash" statements. Also I to think to protest this is really ridiculous. But most feel "hell the score is like 16-4". Which is wrong to think that way, but you can't really blame them. (oh and 16 is a made up number. just used to drive a point home)
People need to leave then, so they provide a better enviroment for there kids. Yes, it may be your "home" but at some point you need to do whats right for yourself and your family.
All we here is Oakland is so horrible this, the cops are so horrible that. Well there is always greener grass, all it takes is will power and determination to better your situations and surroundings.
Mike
Again you make it sound so easy. I was fortunate to do it and it took basketball mixed with my own volition. But it really isnt that easy. Again you wont understand it until you live it. Hell if it weren't for my aunt I would probably be still in The Boot.
Hey N8,
Your right, to me it is that easy. All the stuff you earn and did because you wanted it bad enough right? You had the willpower and motivation to do it. I do not look on that as fortunate. You busted your ass to be where you are at today. Fortunate is to win the lotto. Hard work and determiniation will get you where you need to go.
If more people had the will and determination to do what you did, there would be less occurances of this.
Actually I was blessed with good jumping ability and a killer crossover. So yea I cultivated it, but not everyone has a talent that can exploited. Not everyone's grandmother can put them AAU basketball. Not everyones aunt facilitates a cross country move for her nephews. Hell not everyone has a good family support structure. So I wouldn't give myself 100% of the credit. I cannot put words to it, but the streets have a uncanny knack for locking folks in and creating a sense of comfort in a rather uncomfortable place. Like the old saying goes, "Poverty is paradise". Go figure.
Posted by 90gtvert (Member # 8697) on
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Originally posted by N8:
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Originally posted by 90gtvert:
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Originally posted by N8:
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Originally posted by 90gtvert:
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Originally posted by N8:
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Originally posted by InkedWhiteboy:
Bottom line to end this dispute between you fellas is that there are good officers and bad officers, just like there are good citizens and bad citizens. Imagine the world we live in without any type of piece officer in it. We would live in chaos and disaster. Trust me I am a tatted up whiteboy and I get my fair share of harrasment as well I have been cuffed and held at gunpoint while they search my ride and say it was just a big misunderstanding. It is B.S. but in the end the first person to always be there if we are in and auto accident in a Police officer, they are always the ones that put there ass on the line reguardless of the situation. Bottom line I am thankful for the good ones and the bad ones have Karma in there future. God bless the families of the fallen officers from this week, and we may never know the true details but to protest one persons death to the four lives that were lost to his seems a bit hypocritical to me..
If you notice the ones not understanding or having a complaint are either A) not from there. or B) Not from there and dont plan to go there. So it is very easy to have a "moral of the story" or a "bottom line" type resolution. But believe me fellas. It is not that cut and dry. And no one ever said that they did not want the police. They want fair treatment by the police. And that is not too much to ask in my opinion.
In the end we all have opinions and not saying mine is right. But just think about the other half of the coin and maybe that will help calm all the "Oakland residents are trash" statements. Also I to think to protest this is really ridiculous. But most feel "hell the score is like 16-4". Which is wrong to think that way, but you can't really blame them. (oh and 16 is a made up number. just used to drive a point home)
People need to leave then, so they provide a better enviroment for there kids. Yes, it may be your "home" but at some point you need to do whats right for yourself and your family.
All we here is Oakland is so horrible this, the cops are so horrible that. Well there is always greener grass, all it takes is will power and determination to better your situations and surroundings.
Mike
Again you make it sound so easy. I was fortunate to do it and it took basketball mixed with my own volition. But it really isnt that easy. Again you wont understand it until you live it. Hell if it weren't for my aunt I would probably be still in The Boot.
Hey N8,
Your right, to me it is that easy. All the stuff you earn and did because you wanted it bad enough right? You had the willpower and motivation to do it. I do not look on that as fortunate. You busted your ass to be where you are at today. Fortunate is to win the lotto. Hard work and determiniation will get you where you need to go.
If more people had the will and determination to do what you did, there would be less occurances of this.
Actually I was blessed with good jumping ability and a killer crossover. So yea I cultivated it, but not everyone has a talent that can exploited. Not everyone's grandmother can put them AAU basketball. Not everyones aunt facilitates a cross country move for her nephews. Hell not everyone has a good family support structure. So I wouldn't give myself 100% of the credit. I cannot put words to it, but the streets have a uncanny knack for locking folks in and creating a sense of comfort in a rather uncomfortable place. Like the old saying goes, "Poverty is paradise". Go figure.
You know N8 I never mind having a conversation with you on here, because it never gets out of hand (like another thread). You speak with extreme intelligence and I appreciate it. If I ever see you I'm buying you a beer lol
Posted by Pro71bird (Member # 7844) on
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Originally posted by Hozr:
I say fuck it. The people of Oakland don't want the police, fine, they should pull out because their lives aren't worth it. Build a wall around that dump and show it on TV like the game show it will become. If the people want to step up and fix it themselves they will, or it will become a smoldering heap within a year. Either way, problem solved.
The hypocrisy in Oakland is amazing. Cop shoots a kind and the people blame the cops. Kid shoots 4 cops and people blame the cops.....? WTF
I was at the East Sub Station a few weeks ago and was amazed at the absolute lawlessness of the people; zero respect for everyone and everything including themselves. I'm actually amazed at what the citizens put up with down there.
Why would you want to live there? Why would you want to live like that? Why does OPD put up with it when they know they can't win? These are serious questions that I can't begin to fathom the answers too.
RIP to four fallen officers. Remember, don't put yourself in bad situations and bad things won't happen to you.
+1 ....well said ! The morons that protest are part of the problem, they want to point fingers at everyone but themselves and will not work towards a solution.
If you take a stick and stir it into a pile of dog shit, the end result is it's still dog shit! Why not get rid of the dog shit and solve the problem?
Posted by Adam5.0 (Member # 6995) on
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bottom line is 99% of people that get pulled over or harassed by the police have done something to draw attention to themselves and get notice by the police. I here people say "I was just driving my stang and I get pulled " but your stang has blacked out tint all the way around or you were hauling ass in a 30mph zone. having black out tint for example just gives the police a reason to pull you over dont give them a reason and you wont get pulled over. and when you do get pulled over and the officer is being a dick asking you to see your hands and keep them on the steering wheel you have to understand at any time any one could try to blow your head off, just like this weekend. cops are trained to think that everyone is out to get you and kill you. this is what they have to do to survive and any one would do the same. on the street everyone can be a bad guy.
And if any one tries to say that the guy on bart who got killed didnt do anything he was probably packing dope in his butt because Bart is basically a drug train. and when your doing illegal stuff and something happens dont come crying to mommy if you get hurt.
whooo. vented
Posted by 306Coupe (Member # 4988) on
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Originally posted by Adam5.0:
And if any one tries to say that the guy on bart who got killed didnt do anything he was probably packing dope in his butt because Bart is basically a drug train. and when your doing illegal stuff and something happens dont come crying to mommy if you get hurt.
whooo. vented
Yeah you're one dumb fuck... Unless he shot someone nothing justifies shooting a handcuffed kid. You give those people in Oakland something to protest about by saying dumb shit like this
[ March 27, 2009, 02:05 AM: Message edited by: 306Coupe ]
Posted by jaejae (Member # 7958) on
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yea i get profiled because i dont wear small ass shirts or button ups..pulled over plenty of times for my black hoody and black tees..the "man" calls it criminal wear
Posted by Adam5.0 (Member # 6995) on
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Originally posted by 306Coupe:
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Originally posted by Adam5.0:
And if any one tries to say that the guy on bart who got killed didnt do anything he was probably packing dope in his butt because Bart is basically a drug train. and when your doing illegal stuff and something happens dont come crying to mommy if you get hurt.
whooo. vented
Yeah you're one dumb fuck... Unless he shot someone nothing justifies shooting a handcuffed kid. You give those people in Oakland something to protest about by saying dumb shit like this
ya ok. ya it sucks that he got shot, but dont sell drugs and fight with the police and you wont get shot. plain and simple. its the real world and shit happens. everyone is human and makes mistakes
Posted by 306Coupe (Member # 4988) on
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dude you sound dumber and dumber the more you talk."mistakes happens" tell that to his daughter.
Posted by Adam5.0 (Member # 6995) on
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Originally posted by 306Coupe:
dude you sound dumber and dumber the more you talk."mistakes happens" tell that to his daughter.
dont know what world you live in. but they do. its a fact. he wasnt thinking about his daughter when he decided to be a drug mule.
Posted by 2stangs69-91 (Member # 1951) on
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Originally posted by AL STOCK:
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Originally posted by slowback67:
I had said in an previous post that some cops can be dicks(think on page 3) I went on to say if you had to deal with people like this it would change the way you feel.
Had to deal with people will change your attitude? Being an Officer, you are sworn to be honest, and to protect and serve your community. Now if your attitude changes as you work, then you aren't fit for your job. I suggest a change of profession.
that is a Very ignorant statement. Try living in the real world for a change
Posted by gtowned. (Member # 8156) on
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Originally posted by jaejae:
yea i get profiled because i dont wear small ass shirts or button ups..pulled over plenty of times for my black hoody and black tees..the "man" calls it criminal wear
wering all black and a hood is "criminal wear" i mean are you gonna wear nice bright clothes if you didnt want to be seen doin dirt
Posted by WIKDVNM (Member # 2805) on
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Originally posted by 427 StRoKeR 94 GT:
Wtf is wrong with those people dude got what he Deserved
+100000
Posted by 87GTCOBRA (Member # 7845) on
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FOR SURE N8 I WAS READING WHAT U HAD TO +1 I LOST BOTH MY PARENTS AND NEVER THOUGHT OF GOING ON A RAMPAGE OR BEING LOW LIFE I WORK EVERY FUCKIN DAY TO MAKE MY LIKE BETTER AND HAVE THE THINGS I HAVE. AND FOR PEOPLE TO BE A PIECE OF SHIT TO OTHER IS WRONG! SO VERY MUCH SAID LIFES A BITCH THEN U DIE. BUT LOOK ON THE BIGHTER SIDE ITS FRIDAY! I FINNA GET ME ABOUT 5 40OZ AND POUR ONE OUT FOR MY COPS AND POUR ABOUT 4 DOWN MY FACE AND N8 AND ALL MY FELLOW CA FORDS PEEPS AND BROTHERS AND SISTERS THIS BEER IS FOR YOU ![[worship]](graemlins/worship.gif)
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Posted by 306Coupe (Member # 4988) on
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Originally posted by Adam5.0:
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Originally posted by 306Coupe:
dude you sound dumber and dumber the more you talk."mistakes happens" tell that to his daughter.
dont know what world you live in. but they do. its a fact. he wasnt thinking about his daughter when he decided to be a drug mule.
I guess you can say the same for those cops?
Posted by slowback67 (Member # 6348) on
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Originally posted by 306Coupe:
dude you sound dumber and dumber the more you talk."mistakes happens" tell that to his daughter.
why wasn't he at home then? You know this guy wasn't a saint.
He had a checkered past... Not saying he had it comming but. Why was he out fighting in the Bart station anyways?
do you think people would have made as big deal if the guy was white? Would "you" have cared as much and defended the cop if he were black? Just wondering what you guys think.
Posted by 306Coupe (Member # 4988) on
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Originally posted by slowback67:
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Originally posted by 306Coupe:
dude you sound dumber and dumber the more you talk."mistakes happens" tell that to his daughter.
why wasn't he at home then? You know this guy wasn't a saint.
He had a checkered past... Not saying he had it comming but. Why was he out fighting in the Bart station anyways?
do you think people would have made as big deal if the guy was white? Would "you" have cared as much and defended the cop if he were black? Just wondering what you guys think.
He didnt have to be home, he is a grown ass man. I wouldn't of cared if he shot someone... He was handcuffed on the ground. If a police officer cannot perform under pressure, he shouldn't be a cop.
You can say the same for the cops then... they are officers, sometimes the get killed right?
Posted by N8 (Member # 6048) on
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Originally posted by 87GTCOBRA:
FOR SURE N8 I WAS READING WHAT U HAD TO +1 I LOST BOTH MY PARENTS AND NEVER THOUGHT OF GOING ON A RAMPAGE OR BEING LOW LIFE I WORK EVERY FUCKIN DAY TO MAKE MY LIKE BETTER AND HAVE THE THINGS I HAVE. AND FOR PEOPLE TO BE A PIECE OF SHIT TO OTHER IS WRONG! SO VERY MUCH SAID LIFES A BITCH THEN U DIE. BUT LOOK ON THE BIGHTER SIDE ITS FRIDAY! I FINNA GET ME ABOUT 5 40OZ AND POUR ONE OUT FOR MY COPS AND POUR ABOUT 4 DOWN MY FACE AND N8 AND ALL MY FELLOW CA FORDS PEEPS AND BROTHERS AND SISTERS THIS BEER IS FOR YOU
Well I got a nice bottle of Meyers Rum looking at a brotha, and the orange juice is getting jealous. So I am gonna get us all together and make it happen.
For everyone if we all follow this simple rule "Do unto others as you would have done onto you" Then and only then will stuff be 100% right. Which is why I treat everyone with respect. So if someone does some snake shit to me. I can feel good about flying that head ![[Razz]](tongue.gif)
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