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Posted by COBRAreflection (Member # 5247) on :
 
What round does Mosley go down in this one?
 
Posted by N8 (Member # 6048) on :
 
I am actually going to go with Sugar Shane on this one. I am going with the power, speed and savvy to pull through. But no doubt this will be a great fight. 2 action-packed fighters. There will be some knockdowns too.
 
Posted by cees87drop (Member # 4066) on :
 
I still can't believe cotto lost. Lol. I think it will go the whole 12.
 
Posted by EXcobra/LS1NOW (Member # 8408) on :
 
I just want to see a good fight.. but dont be suprised if mosley pulls it off.
 
Posted by COBRAreflection (Member # 5247) on :
 
Yeah I think it will be a great fight, for at least the first 6 rounds. After that I think Mosley's age will creep up and he'll be in trouble.
 
Posted by N8 (Member # 6048) on :
 
I dont think the age gap between these 2 is significant enough to tip the scales. The thing that would worry me for Shane is Margarito's pace and work rate. But on the other hand, Shane has a style that can break that pace. Elusive, fast and a historically hard puncher. He will hit Margarito easily. Common sense would say since Cotto beat Shane and Margarito beat Cotto. That Margarito would be the apparent. Good thing boxing does not go that way. Look at Hopkins, Pavlik and Taylor. Taylor beat Hopkins 2x's, Pavlik beats Taylor easily (2x's) One would expect Pavlik to punish B-Hop, but then Hopkins dismantles Pavlik (whom I picked to win among everyone saying I was a fool). So don't let the outcome of the Cotto v Marg fight sway you. Shane is a much better boxer than Marg. And has equal power. But if he gets caught slipping Marg will take advantage.

[ January 21, 2009, 04:21 PM: Message edited by: N8 ]
 
Posted by 91 5.0 5speed (Member # 1867) on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by N8:
I dont think the age gap between these 2 is significant enough to tip the scales. The thing that would worry me for Shane is Margarito's pace and work rate. But on the other hand, Shane has a style that can break that pace. Elusive, fast and a historically hard puncher. He will hit Margarito easily. Common sense would say since Cotto beat Shane and Margarito beat Cotto. That Margarito would be the apparent. Good thing boxing does not go that way. Look at Hopkins, Pavlik and Taylor. Taylor beat Hopkins 2x's, Pavlik beats Taylor easily (2x's) One would expect Pavlik to punish B-Hop, but then Hopkins dismantles Pavlik (whom I picked to win among everyone saying I was a fool). So don't let the outcome of the Cotto v Marg fight sway you. Shane is a much better boxer than Marg. And has equal power. But if he gets caught slipping Marg will take advantage.

If Shane stays on the outside and ACTUALLY boxes instead of trying to slug it out he has a "chance", based on Shanes recent fights I think margarito is going to whoop his ass! Shane likes to try and mix it up with people instead of using his superior boxing skills. He was getting outboxed by COTTO! Margarito is slow as hell but he will eventually catch Shane to the body with some hard shots and that will slow him down. I would not be suprised if Shane is stopped within 11 rounds.
 
Posted by 87#184saleen (Member # 6276) on :
 
when is the fight
 
Posted by N8 (Member # 6048) on :
 
This Saturday

Yea if Shane stoops to a lower level boxing wise, he could very well find his dick in the dirt. That I agree. but if both bring their historic games to the ring. I see Shane pulling this one out. Also Shanes conditioning is never in question. One thing I will say is dude is well trained/conditioned.

[ January 21, 2009, 05:05 PM: Message edited by: N8 ]
 
Posted by COBRAreflection (Member # 5247) on :
 
Yup sat night, 7pm on HBO- call your local cable company today! (Comcast told me to say that [Wink] )


I agree with 91 5.0 5speed. If shane fights the way he did against Cotto and recent matches-he's dooooomed!
Although I thought the Cotto v Mosley fight could have been a draw.

[ January 21, 2009, 08:07 PM: Message edited by: COBRAreflection ]
 
Posted by N8 (Member # 6048) on :
 
I told ya'll....Shane put on a boxing clinic on Margarito. Not sure why he didn't do that with Cotto. But this was a old fashioned beat down. He made Margarito look very average. A skilled boxer against a pressure brawler will almost always go with the skilled fighter.

I wish I was a betting man. I would have won hella cash.
 
Posted by EXcobra/LS1NOW (Member # 8408) on :
 
Yup sure did but he didnt get down like that on cotto cause thats to totally different boxing styles but I wouldnt mind a cotto an mosley 2!
 
Posted by 5.0_707 (Member # 5893) on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by N8:

I wish I was a betting man. I would have won hella cash.

heard the odds were something like 4 to 1...woulda been a nice pay day! [Whoo Whooooo!]
 
Posted by East Bay 50 (Member # 8081) on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by N8:
I told ya'll....Shane put on a boxing clinic on Margarito. Not sure why he didn't do that with Cotto. But this was a old fashioned beat down. He made Margarito look very average. A skilled boxer against a pressure brawler will almost always go with the skilled fighter.

I wish I was a betting man. I would have won hella cash.

I'm glad Moseley won. I thought he was over the hill based on his last performances and was sure margarito was gonna whoop him. Moseley finally used his god given skills and did not try and slug it out. What I found interesting is that they caught margariot CHEATING! before the match. Mosely's trainer caught Margarito"s camp trying to put a plaster like substance inside his wraps! [Eek!] They made him take it out and put it in a ziploc bag as evedence! Maybe that is why margarito could not hurt Shanelast night and maybe that is the reason why he had Cotto so hurt. I will find the article and post it up
 
Posted by East Bay 50 (Member # 8081) on :
 
http://sports.espn.go.com/sports/boxing/news/story?id=3858368


Here is the Story of Margarito trying to CHEAT! this makes me wonder about the victory over Cotto and all his other ones. I think he should be fined and suspended for this shit!
 
Posted by COBRAreflection (Member # 5247) on :
 
Well, I have to hand it to you N8. Mosley looked real good. I don't think anyone expected for the fight to go the way it did. I could have pictured a decision win, but not a knockout. Margarito looked confused and frustrated as Mosley never gave him any room or a chance to get in his rhythm.

As for the substance...
Well this isn't anything new. It's happened before and will continue to happen as people are always looking for any slight advantage. Shane was also a part of a controversy with the BALCO case. ALso makes you wonder how some of these "older" fighters and athletes all of sudden look so great.

We could question the Cotto fight, except that I don't think this substance could have been used on Margarito's chin. Cotto lost his legs and his power at the end in that fight.
But nonetheless, Margarito needs to be fined and suspended.

[ January 25, 2009, 01:16 PM: Message edited by: COBRAreflection ]
 
Posted by N8 (Member # 6048) on :
 
Yea that plaster thing has been going on for a while. One boxer even killed another in the ring because of that tactic. If I find the article I'll post it.

When the Shane of the past shows up. Not many people can deal with him. His like a smaller Roy Jones with a better chin and better power. Some of those shot Margarito took was tremendous. I knew Shane would hit him at will, because Marg is so damn slow and one dimensional. Shane v Cotto 2, would be a nice draw. But word on the street is Cotto has been shook of his confidence after getting battered by losing to Marg.
 




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