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Posted by 4.6 EATIN GM'S (Member # 1633) on :
 
what channel and time is it on? i have comcast if someone can tell me what channel
 
Posted by BUKSING (Member # 6594) on :
 
ch.5 @ 9pm
 
Posted by 4.6 EATIN GM'S (Member # 1633) on :
 
thanks [patriot]
 
Posted by SIKLEEN/GT (Member # 2695) on :
 
CBS... at 9pm is what it says on my guide although the fights started a while ago with the kimbo fight starting in a few min. I'm watching it on a Colorado CBS feed....
 
Posted by 68dustin (Member # 5388) on :
 
any links?
 
Posted by hidnn.o.s. (Member # 1219) on :
 
Links? Go to your tv, click 5, and you're linked [Wink]
 
Posted by 4.6 EATIN GM'S (Member # 1633) on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by hidnn.o.s.:
Links? Go to your tv, click 5, and you're linked [Wink]

lmfao
 
Posted by Luke87GT (Member # 21) on :
 
Kimbo is an absolute BULL. He has impressive strength and is a great striker, but he was in serious trouble a number of times in today's fight. Thompson gave him a lot of problems on the ground.

I also thought the fight was stopped prematurely. Thompson took some nasty shots at the end, had his ear burst, but was still standing. I think the ref could have let it go a little longer which would allow Kimbo to win more convincingly. The house seemed to be split about that fight considering that Thompson got the upper hand on the floor and it looked like the fight was close to stoppage in the 2nd round with Kimbo's head against the cage.

Although I am a Kimbo fan, given what he showed today on the ground, I am questioning just how much of a future he can have in MMA. Endurance looks like it is lacking as well.

Given Kimbo's strengths and weaknesses, I feel he'd be better suited as a heavyweight boxer.

[ June 01, 2008, 03:25 AM: Message edited by: Luke87GT ]
 
Posted by Dave50 (Member # 5238) on :
 
Kimbo is a bum... Scotts fight was stopped early, the girls fight was the best.
 
Posted by Jmir018 (Member # 1414) on :
 
anyone got a link? i just got home and missed the show.. i don't think i have cbs anyway..
 
Posted by WRS92GT (Member # 5008) on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by Luke87GT:
Kimbo is an absolute BULL. He has impressive strength and is a great striker, but he was in serious trouble a number of times in today's fight. Thompson gave him a lot of problems on the ground.

I also thought the fight was stopped prematurely. Thompson took some nasty shots at the end, had his ear burst, but was still standing. I think the ref could have let it go a little longer which would allow Kimbo to win more convincingly. The house seemed to be split about that fight considering that Thompson got the upper hand on the floor and it looked like the fight was close to stoppage in the 2nd round with Kimbo's head against the cage.

Although I am a Kimbo fan, given what he showed today on the ground, I am questioning just how much of a future he can have in MMA. Endurance looks like it is lacking as well.

Given Kimbo's strengths and weaknesses, I feel he'd be better suited as a heavyweight boxer.

Kimbo was absolutely OWNED on the ground. There were sooooo many holes in Kimbo's takedown defense and guard.

Granted Kimbo landed a few nice shots on Thompson's chin and face and yet Thompson weathered the Kimbo storm of fists. Kimbo's Muay Thai sucks dick period.

Also when Thompson had Kimbo locked in the standing guillotine choke I watched it four separate times and Kimbo tapped, although briefly he still did TAP on Thompson's upper arm. Yet the fucking moron ref "happened to not notice that little detail".

Kimbo got a harsh dose of reality and finally I've been proven right, that Kimbo isn't anything other than a HW boxer that would be better suited to boxing only. Could you imagine if Kimbo fought Giant Silva? Absolute ownage would ensue. Kimbo sucks.

Those fucking doctors were tools. They stopped Scott's fight waaaaaay too soon IMO. Scott was owning Robbie from within the Thai clinch IMO.
 
Posted by Luke87GT (Member # 21) on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by WRS92GT:
quote:
Originally posted by Luke87GT:
Kimbo is an absolute BULL. He has impressive strength and is a great striker, but he was in serious trouble a number of times in today's fight. Thompson gave him a lot of problems on the ground.

I also thought the fight was stopped prematurely. Thompson took some nasty shots at the end, had his ear burst, but was still standing. I think the ref could have let it go a little longer which would allow Kimbo to win more convincingly. The house seemed to be split about that fight considering that Thompson got the upper hand on the floor and it looked like the fight was close to stoppage in the 2nd round with Kimbo's head against the cage.

Although I am a Kimbo fan, given what he showed today on the ground, I am questioning just how much of a future he can have in MMA. Endurance looks like it is lacking as well.

Given Kimbo's strengths and weaknesses, I feel he'd be better suited as a heavyweight boxer.

Those fucking doctors were tools. They stopped Scott's fight waaaaaay too soon IMO. Scott was owning Robbie from within the Thai clinch IMO.
I hated to see that fight stopped, but what is a professional doctor supposed to do when the fighter says to them twice "I can't see a thing!"

YOU HAVE TO STOP THE FIGHT. There is too much liability for that doctor to let it go.

Tip for fighters: IF A DOCTOR IS EXAMINING YOU AND TRYING TO DECIDE WHETHER OR NOT TO STOP A FIGHT, DO NOT TELL THEM HOW FUCKED UP YOU ARE IF YOU WANT THE FIGHT TO CONTINUE, LOL

Nuff said!
 
Posted by Dave50 (Member # 5238) on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by Luke87GT:
quote:
Originally posted by WRS92GT:
quote:
Originally posted by Luke87GT:
Kimbo is an absolute BULL. He has impressive strength and is a great striker, but he was in serious trouble a number of times in today's fight. Thompson gave him a lot of problems on the ground.

I also thought the fight was stopped prematurely. Thompson took some nasty shots at the end, had his ear burst, but was still standing. I think the ref could have let it go a little longer which would allow Kimbo to win more convincingly. The house seemed to be split about that fight considering that Thompson got the upper hand on the floor and it looked like the fight was close to stoppage in the 2nd round with Kimbo's head against the cage.

Although I am a Kimbo fan, given what he showed today on the ground, I am questioning just how much of a future he can have in MMA. Endurance looks like it is lacking as well.

Given Kimbo's strengths and weaknesses, I feel he'd be better suited as a heavyweight boxer.

Those fucking doctors were tools. They stopped Scott's fight waaaaaay too soon IMO. Scott was owning Robbie from within the Thai clinch IMO.
I hated to see that fight stopped, but what is a professional doctor supposed to do when the fighter says to them twice "I can't see a thing!"

YOU HAVE TO STOP THE FIGHT. There is too much liability for that doctor to let it go.

Tip for fighters: IF A DOCTOR IS EXAMINING YOU AND TRYING TO DECIDE WHETHER OR NOT TO STOP A FIGHT, DO NOT TELL THEM HOW FUCKED UP YOU ARE IF YOU WANT THE FIGHT TO CONTINUE, LOL

Nuff said!

He had 5 mins to recover. He just wanted his 5 mins, if he tells the doc he can see just fine would he get his 5 mins? It wasnt up to the doc to step in for a fowl it was the refs job.
 
Posted by Luke87GT (Member # 21) on :
 
well you certainly got a point there.
Should have gotten his 5 minutes before answering that question about the vision.
 
Posted by WRS92GT (Member # 5008) on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by Luke87GT:
quote:
Originally posted by WRS92GT:
quote:
Originally posted by Luke87GT:
Kimbo is an absolute BULL. He has impressive strength and is a great striker, but he was in serious trouble a number of times in today's fight. Thompson gave him a lot of problems on the ground.

I also thought the fight was stopped prematurely. Thompson took some nasty shots at the end, had his ear burst, but was still standing. I think the ref could have let it go a little longer which would allow Kimbo to win more convincingly. The house seemed to be split about that fight considering that Thompson got the upper hand on the floor and it looked like the fight was close to stoppage in the 2nd round with Kimbo's head against the cage.

Although I am a Kimbo fan, given what he showed today on the ground, I am questioning just how much of a future he can have in MMA. Endurance looks like it is lacking as well.

Given Kimbo's strengths and weaknesses, I feel he'd be better suited as a heavyweight boxer.

Those fucking doctors were tools. They stopped Scott's fight waaaaaay too soon IMO. Scott was owning Robbie from within the Thai clinch IMO.
I hated to see that fight stopped, but what is a professional doctor supposed to do when the fighter says to them twice "I can't see a thing!"

YOU HAVE TO STOP THE FIGHT. There is too much liability for that doctor to let it go.

Tip for fighters: IF A DOCTOR IS EXAMINING YOU AND TRYING TO DECIDE WHETHER OR NOT TO STOP A FIGHT, DO NOT TELL THEM HOW FUCKED UP YOU ARE IF YOU WANT THE FIGHT TO CONTINUE, LOL

Nuff said!

I just talked to Scott's older brother (my best friend) and Scott could see fine according to Scott. You heard it from the horse's mouth. He wanted to continue as did Lawler. Scott told Brandon (his brother) his eye was sratchy feeling for a couple of minutes but that was it.

For shit like that (accidents) a fighter has up to 5 minutes to regain their wits so to speak and Scott was clearly fucked out of his 5 minutes.
 
Posted by Dave50 (Member # 5238) on :
 
Forget the horses mouth stories always change anyhow! Fact is after 5 mins of recovery ask the fighter if he can see. "a fowl is a fowl" no doc is gonna stop a fight for a growing strike.
 
Posted by 89 FAKE SNAKE (Member # 4531) on :
 
FUCK TIVO....SHIT STOPEd recordin when they stopped the lawler fight...fuckkkkkk [Mad]
 
Posted by warhorse58gt (Member # 7702) on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by WRS92GT:
quote:
Originally posted by Luke87GT:
Kimbo is an absolute BULL. He has impressive strength and is a great striker, but he was in serious trouble a number of times in today's fight. Thompson gave him a lot of problems on the ground.

I also thought the fight was stopped prematurely. Thompson took some nasty shots at the end, had his ear burst, but was still standing. I think the ref could have let it go a little longer which would allow Kimbo to win more convincingly. The house seemed to be split about that fight considering that Thompson got the upper hand on the floor and it looked like the fight was close to stoppage in the 2nd round with Kimbo's head against the cage.

Although I am a Kimbo fan, given what he showed today on the ground, I am questioning just how much of a future he can have in MMA. Endurance looks like it is lacking as well.

Given Kimbo's strengths and weaknesses, I feel he'd be better suited as a heavyweight boxer.

Kimbo was absolutely OWNED on the ground. There were sooooo many holes in Kimbo's takedown defense and guard.

Granted Kimbo landed a few nice shots on Thompson's chin and face and yet Thompson weathered the Kimbo storm of fists. Kimbo's Muay Thai sucks dick period.

Also when Thompson had Kimbo locked in the standing guillotine choke I watched it four separate times and Kimbo tapped, although briefly he still did TAP on Thompson's upper arm. Yet the fucking moron ref "happened to not notice that little detail".

Kimbo got a harsh dose of reality and finally I've been proven right, that Kimbo isn't anything other than a HW boxer that would be better suited to boxing only. Could you imagine if Kimbo fought Giant Silva? Absolute ownage would ensue. Kimbo sucks.

Those fucking doctors were tools. They stopped Scott's fight waaaaaay too soon IMO. Scott was owning Robbie from within the Thai clinch IMO.

man were you just high or a kimbo hater? he did just fine in the first round on the ground. he got taken down but got right back up. the 2nd round is when he started to poop out. and get worked on the ground. he needs more cardio work thats for sure! and shit i think he looked good for this being his 3 pro fight.. people seem to over look that part. who doesn't have holes in their game after 3 fights? lets see this guy in 2 years after about 6-8 fights. then try to talk some shit on him. and funny when the ref asked kimbo if he was alright. he gave the thumbs up from the choke. so i'm thinkin he wasn't in very much trouble. but kimbo haters will still hate no matter how good he looks or who he beats...and lets not talk about your giant silva. who can't get anything done.. last fight silva looked good for 3 rounds then got handed his ass in 1 move.... kimbo looks better & better after every fight. he is still a noob. but he will be around for a long time. [patriot]
 
Posted by NavidR (Member # 3164) on :
 
I quess it was a good fight but I missed it, from what I real looks like Kimbo WON AGAIN!

Like I SAID IT ONCE I'LL SAY IT AGAIN GO KIMBO! now can a brother get a link to the fight, I can't find any!
 
Posted by NavidR (Member # 3164) on :
 
I just saw the fight, My hat goes out to thompson. But either way he started to bleed big time and thats the end.

People are saying there is a five minute recovery time??? what is that all about?
 
Posted by WRS92GT (Member # 5008) on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by warhorse58gt:
quote:
Originally posted by WRS92GT:
quote:
Originally posted by Luke87GT:
Kimbo is an absolute BULL. He has impressive strength and is a great striker, but he was in serious trouble a number of times in today's fight. Thompson gave him a lot of problems on the ground.

I also thought the fight was stopped prematurely. Thompson took some nasty shots at the end, had his ear burst, but was still standing. I think the ref could have let it go a little longer which would allow Kimbo to win more convincingly. The house seemed to be split about that fight considering that Thompson got the upper hand on the floor and it looked like the fight was close to stoppage in the 2nd round with Kimbo's head against the cage.

Although I am a Kimbo fan, given what he showed today on the ground, I am questioning just how much of a future he can have in MMA. Endurance looks like it is lacking as well.

Given Kimbo's strengths and weaknesses, I feel he'd be better suited as a heavyweight boxer.

Kimbo was absolutely OWNED on the ground. There were sooooo many holes in Kimbo's takedown defense and guard.

Granted Kimbo landed a few nice shots on Thompson's chin and face and yet Thompson weathered the Kimbo storm of fists. Kimbo's Muay Thai sucks dick period.

Also when Thompson had Kimbo locked in the standing guillotine choke I watched it four separate times and Kimbo tapped, although briefly he still did TAP on Thompson's upper arm. Yet the fucking moron ref "happened to not notice that little detail".

Kimbo got a harsh dose of reality and finally I've been proven right, that Kimbo isn't anything other than a HW boxer that would be better suited to boxing only. Could you imagine if Kimbo fought Giant Silva? Absolute ownage would ensue. Kimbo sucks.

Those fucking doctors were tools. They stopped Scott's fight waaaaaay too soon IMO. Scott was owning Robbie from within the Thai clinch IMO.

man were you just high or a kimbo hater? he did just fine in the first round on the ground. he got taken down but got right back up. the 2nd round is when he started to poop out. and get worked on the ground. he needs more cardio work thats for sure! and shit i think he looked good for this being his 3 pro fight.. people seem to over look that part. who doesn't have holes in their game after 3 fights? lets see this guy in 2 years after about 6-8 fights. then try to talk some shit on him. and funny when the ref asked kimbo if he was alright. he gave the thumbs up from the choke. so i'm thinkin he wasn't in very much trouble. but kimbo haters will still hate no matter how good he looks or who he beats...and lets not talk about your giant silva. who can't get anything done.. last fight silva looked good for 3 rounds then got handed his ass in 1 move.... kimbo looks better & better after every fight. he is still a noob. but he will be around for a long time. [patriot]
Nope sorry not high. I'll happily say that I'm a Kimbo hater though. He's bad for the sport as a whole in my opinion. He has zero disapline in MARTIAL ARTS. He's a fucking backyard brawler that looks like he's barely evolved from swinging from tree to tree looking for his next meal.

James Thompson was brought in to be just another "can" for Kimbo to play with and had the ear issue not played into account Thompson would have won that fight. Now could you imagine bringing in someone of decent or high caliber to fight Kimbo? Arlovski? Even though I can't stand him Tim Sylvia? Either of those fuckers would take Kimbo's dumb reggin ass back to coconutville.

Now if you want to talk about an "even" matchup experience wise Kimbo ought to call out Brock Lesnar. One's a NCAA championship wrestler and the other an extremely heavy handed boxer. Both have little MMA experience but big hopes of becoming the next big thing.
 
Posted by Eddie510- (Member # 2354) on :
 
are they going to replay today?
 
Posted by East Bay 50 (Member # 8081) on :
 
Why does everyone hate on Kimbo so much? He is just a guy trying to make some money the best legal way he knows how. People say "put him in the ring with a top UFC heavyweight and watch Kimbo get his ass kicked" That is so stupid, do some of you guys know anything about MMA or any type of paid combat sport in general? You doubt feed steak to a baby and you do not put a beginer in the ring with a seasoned vet.


OF course Kimbo has alot of work to do, he is still learning. Alot of the UFC guys are jealous because Kimbo makes more per fight than they do (In some cases). The object of the game is to make money. I see Kimbo fighting about 6-7 more bums until he gets a "mega fight". The purpose of the mega fight will be for Kimbo to "cash his chips in" and make enough to retire on. Just like in boxing, you feed a fighter bums so that you can get a guy some experience and build his name up with the public. Right now a large majority of the public knows who Kimbo is and are will be willing to shell out money for his next fight. I think he is improving and predict he will do more groudwork in his next fight but he still has a long ways to go. Lesnar was an idiot for fighting Mir and got submitted just like everyone predicted
 
Posted by N8 (Member # 6048) on :
 
The guy is sort of a phenom, which is why I suspect he is subjected to so much unfair scrutiny. Raw talent and ability he has, but it still needs to be honed. Its that way in any sport. The greats pay dues. Kimbo is at sort of a advantage/disadvantage. He is old to be just starting, but possesses more natural ability than the big guns that has been doing it a while. Not to mention his market draw. So his clock is ticking, plus he is dealing with high expectations and the money/marketing machine at the same time. And it isn't fair that he is being dubbed the Tyson of MMA. I think we all expect too much too fast and the money may come faster which may be good or bad for Kimbo. But I know one thing He wont have to say "N*gga's gotta eat" much more, because he is eating like a mofo now.
 
Posted by RioredGT (Member # 2300) on :
 
What do you guys think of a Brett Rogers vs Kimbo fight? I've been reading that at the after fight press-conference Rogers called Kimbo out and started a bit of an altercation. I thought it was funny to see Rogers being walked to the ring by Big Black. [Big Grin]
 
Posted by Dave50 (Member # 5238) on :
 
Ive always been a slight fan of Kimbo's but being trained for the last year by Bas he doesnt really have an excuse to be gassing like he did. Tons of fighters were just cut by the UFC for lacking conditioning its bad for the sport. If theyre gonna be pros atleast be able to fight out your rounds. That whole event was amatuer night from the fighters, refs and docs. It was a pathetic display. Except for the girls!
 
Posted by SmokinLX (Member # 1684) on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by 68dustin:
any links?

http://www.mmatko.com/2008/06/01/

Here are some link's to the fight and some other stuff that happened after the fight [patriot]
 
Posted by WRS92GT (Member # 5008) on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by Dave50:
Ive always been a slight fan of Kimbo's but being trained for the last year by Bas he doesnt really have an excuse to be gassing like he did. Tons of fighters were just cut by the UFC for lacking conditioning its bad for the sport. If theyre gonna be pros atleast be able to fight out your rounds. That whole event was amatuer night from the fighters, refs and docs. It was a pathetic display. Except for the girls!

I think the UFC just had way too many sheep in the lion's den (no pun intended). Cutting fighters like Travis Lutter makes sense and then again it doesn't at the same time. Lutter showed HORRIBLE cardio against Rich Franklin as did Franklin for a fucking 3 round fight. Christ halfway through the second round both fighters looked gased to fuck. I'm sorry but when your meals are put on table by fighting you train you fucking ass off in every way possible.

Kimbo looked gased after being taken to the ground the second or third time. You're correct in saying that after a year with Rutten Kimbo should have the cardio to keep up a 15 minute fight. If he's "the next big thing" he should be pushing himself to fight 30 minutes so that there would be no question he could go 25 minutes without running on E.

I think Brett Rogers would be a great matchup for Kimbo honestly. I'd give the ground game to Rogers and the striking to Kimbo.


For all of you fucking Kimbo ball huggers......why shouldn't Kimbo fight someone worthy? Why should he be continued to fight these fucking "cans" that he runs through (minus Thompson)? You all seem to think he'll be the next badass on the HW block. Look at ANY HW fighter and you'll see that pretty much all them have trained in a specific disapline for many, many years to get where they are. Albeit BJJ, Muay Thai, wrestling or boxing, they have vast experience in one or more forms. Rutten is working with not much higher than a Chimpanzee that has vicious KO power and a pea sized brain.

So with that being said please feel free to post up whom you think Kimbo should fight since "he's a baby to MMA". Just an FYI Brock Lesnar was given a former world HW champion in his debut fight. I didn't hear anyone complaining about that shit.

[ June 02, 2008, 01:49 AM: Message edited by: WRS92GT ]
 
Posted by N8 (Member # 6048) on :
 
quote:
For all of you fucking Kimbo ball huggers......why shouldn't Kimbo fight someone worthy? Why should he be continued to fight these fucking "cans" that he runs through (minus Thompson)? You all seem to think he'll be the next badass on the HW block. Look at ANY HW fighter and you'll see that pretty much all them have trained in a specific disapline for many, many years to get where they are. Albeit BJJ, Muay Thai, wrestling or boxing, they have vast experience in one or more forms.
Read this part of your quote closely. You just sat there and typed for about 5-10 minutes, only to contradict and answer your own question at the same time. Were you drunk when you posted that?

Personally I think it would be an insult to the big guys in the sport to put Kimbo against them so soon. He has paid no dues and doesn't possess the required skill to compete with these guys. Although it would be a big payday at this point since his drawing power seems tremendous (he was a presenter at the CMA...lol). But it would be huge black eye and blow to MMA's credibility to do so. You don't see amatuers go pro one day then next week take on Oscar De la hoya? Why should it be any different for MMA? You see a guy that is a great prospect, he gets the buzz, gets the gas station attendants proves his self along the way. Then he gets bigger venues. It is how it is, how it was and how it should be.

It is not about being a Kimbo fan or a hater. If you are a fan of the sport you understand what it takes to get to the top. He has what it takes, but it needs cultivating. Just like all sports.
 
Posted by East Bay 50 (Member # 8081) on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by WRS92GT:
quote:
Originally posted by Dave50:
Ive always been a slight fan of Kimbo's but being trained for the last year by Bas he doesnt really have an excuse to be gassing like he did. Tons of fighters were just cut by the UFC for lacking conditioning its bad for the sport. If theyre gonna be pros atleast be able to fight out your rounds. That whole event was amatuer night from the fighters, refs and docs. It was a pathetic display. Except for the girls!

I think the UFC just had way too many sheep in the lion's den (no pun intended). Cutting fighters like Travis Lutter makes sense and then again it doesn't at the same time. Lutter showed HORRIBLE cardio against Rich Franklin as did Franklin for a fucking 3 round fight. Christ halfway through the second round both fighters looked gased to fuck. I'm sorry but when your meals are put on table by fighting you train you fucking ass off in every way possible.

Kimbo looked gased after being taken to the ground the second or third time. You're correct in saying that after a year with Rutten Kimbo should have the cardio to keep up a 15 minute fight. If he's "the next big thing" he should be pushing himself to fight 30 minutes so that there would be no question he could go 25 minutes without running on E.

I think Brett Rogers would be a great matchup for Kimbo honestly. I'd give the ground game to Rogers and the striking to Kimbo.


For all of you fucking Kimbo ball huggers......why shouldn't Kimbo fight someone worthy? Why should he be continued to fight these fucking "cans" that he runs through (minus Thompson)? You all seem to think he'll be the next badass on the HW block. Look at ANY HW fighter and you'll see that pretty much all them have trained in a specific disapline for many, many years to get where they are. Albeit BJJ, Muay Thai, wrestling or boxing, they have vast experience in one or more forms. Rutten is working with not much higher than a Chimpanzee that has vicious KO power and a pea sized brain.

So with that being said please feel free to post up whom you think Kimbo should fight since "he's a baby to MMA". Just an FYI Brock Lesnar was given a former world HW champion in his debut fight. I didn't hear anyone complaining about that shit.

See my previous post. Lesnar and his handlers were fools for letting him fight Mir. You can't take a rookie and put them in the ring with a seasoned vet. You run the risk of ruining a rookie fighters confidence among other things when they get exposed really bad. You are SUPPOSE to feed rookie fighters cans in order to build their confidence and improve their skill.
 
Posted by 532Fastback (Member # 1482) on :
 
i heard kimbo sucked ass.
 
Posted by Luke87GT (Member # 21) on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by N8:
quote:
For all of you fucking Kimbo ball huggers......why shouldn't Kimbo fight someone worthy? Why should he be continued to fight these fucking "cans" that he runs through (minus Thompson)? You all seem to think he'll be the next badass on the HW block. Look at ANY HW fighter and you'll see that pretty much all them have trained in a specific disapline for many, many years to get where they are. Albeit BJJ, Muay Thai, wrestling or boxing, they have vast experience in one or more forms.
Read this part of your quote closely. You just sat there and typed for about 5-10 minutes, only to contradict and answer your own question at the same time. Were you drunk when you posted that?

Personally I think it would be an insult to the big guys in the sport to put Kimbo against them so soon. He has paid no dues and doesn't possess the required skill to compete with these guys. Although it would be a big payday at this point since his drawing power seems tremendous (he was a presenter at the CMA...lol). But it would be huge black eye and blow to MMA's credibility to do so. You don't see amatuers go pro one day then next week take on Oscar De la hoya? Why should it be any different for MMA? You see a guy that is a great prospect, he gets the buzz, gets the gas station attendants proves his self along the way. Then he gets bigger venues. It is how it is, how it was and how it should be.

It is not about being a Kimbo fan or a hater. If you are a fan of the sport you understand what it takes to get to the top. He has what it takes, but it needs cultivating. Just like all sports.

Bingo, everyone has to pay their dues and proove themselves before they get to fight the top contenders since that is where the money is at.

Kimbo is a rookie, and he is treated as such imho. If he proves himself, wins some fights, he will continue to slowly fight more and more formidable opponents and the money will increase.

Until then, lets take him for what he is... A beginner who is trying to become somebody, just like many others in the sport. Why are people faulting him for that? The guy is humble and acknowledges he has a long way to go. I am neutral but at the same time anxious to see how things pan out for him.

Kimbo has incredible strength and is a great striker. He also has a very questionable ground game and unimpressive stamina.

With that said, enjoy the .gif [Big Grin]

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[ June 03, 2008, 12:07 AM: Message edited by: Luke87GT ]
 
Posted by WRS92GT (Member # 5008) on :
 
I personally can't stand Liddell but he has a great point about Kimbo.

"It's real hard to have your posse film you knocking guys out in under 2 minutes in boatyards.....and it's completely another thing to step into a cage with another human being for 15 to 25 minutes and give your all."

With that being said Thompson was the clear winner in my mind. Kimbo won by default which is not a victory in my book. Apparently Gary "The Italian Jew" Shaw see's things a bit differently.

If I were Bas Rutten I would be "100 miles and runnin" away from Kimblow and his bitch posse of Angela Davis afro wearing motherfuckers. Bas should stick to Legends in LA and keep his name respectable like Couture has. Kimbo originally wanted Couture as his mentor. Do you see Randy anywhere around?............

"Bueller......Bueller......Bueller......Bueller?"
"Hello, is this thing on?"


PS It would seem that even fighters from within Kimbo's own organization see through the bullshit and what I've already stated......

http://www.ultimate-fighter.ca/Forum/viewtopic.php?id=15294

[ June 03, 2008, 04:00 AM: Message edited by: WRS92GT ]
 
Posted by N8 (Member # 6048) on :
 
WRS

I think you are more Kimbo hater than a true fan of MMA. If you were a fan of MMA you would realize his potential (keyword being potential). You would realize his potential value to the sport and its success and appeal. And you wold realize that the guy has a true God given talent as brutal as it is the dude is good at what he does. He is humble, dedicated and a true student to the game. To me those are the perfect ingredients of a legend in any sport. Now he may fall off at any time, who knows. but as it stands now, the dude is not half bad. I can tell you one thing. I never heard of MMA or any of its fighters until Kimbo happened. So there is a pleasant side effect to all of this.

And why do you hate Kimbo so much. You almost sound like you know him and are jealous. Top it off, I didnt see anyone here touting Kimbo as the next best thing. But merely admiring what he is currently doing. Seems you want to more throw insults his way than face facts.


lol...I watched the video. And what did that prove? The dude is a potential opponent. He is supposed to talk smack. I thought maybe you had a good video for me. I know one thing, who ever this dude is (an I never heard of him until now) can thank Kimbo for getting his name out there. Win or lose, he should give part of his purse to Kimbo.

[ June 03, 2008, 09:39 AM: Message edited by: N8 ]
 
Posted by Luke87GT (Member # 21) on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by N8:
I never heard of MMA or any of its fighters until Kimbo happened. So there is a pleasant side effect to all of this.

Bingo again. Last Saturday's event on basic cable was a great thing for MMA exposure. It introduced the sport to a lot of people who had no clue about MMA. It was a successful event despite the stoppages.

In fact, I myself watched the fights with a few people who had never seen MMA before and now are interested to see the next high dollar MMA event.

Good or bad, Kimbo is reconizable and can bring many would-be fans into the sport.
 
Posted by N8 (Member # 6048) on :
 
Anyone ever notice that Kimbo rarely and I mean rarely even blinks when punches are being thrown at him or he is getting hit? And how precise his punches are? I think in a past life this dude was a gladiator or something.

And was that dudes ear like that before he got into the ring? That looks really nasty and painful. I thought cauliflower ear was only something that happened in cartoons.
 
Posted by Luke87GT (Member # 21) on :
 
Kimbo has a huge melon.

In all my years playing sports (football, boxing, etc), it was always the guys with the biggest dome that were the hardest hitters in football and could take the best punches in boxing. Just an observation lol.

The biggest head in all of football history was owned by Jack Tatum and we all know he had the reputation for being one of the hardest hitters in league history.

Kimbo's melon is HUGE, lol. The man can take a punch, no doubt.

LOL

And the califlower ear is a very common thing in collegiate wrestling.

[ June 03, 2008, 10:27 AM: Message edited by: Luke87GT ]
 
Posted by Eddie510- (Member # 2354) on :
 
same here, never was really into mma, some of my friends were. I always seen this big ass black dude on youtube fucking dudes up. and now i cant wait till the next one, im ordering!!lol so it is good for them. Im not really a fan of him but shit its entertainment [Whoo Whooooo!]
 
Posted by East Bay 50 (Member # 8081) on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by WRS92GT:
I personally can't stand Liddell but he has a great point about Kimbo.

"It's real hard to have your posse film you knocking guys out in under 2 minutes in boatyards.....and it's completely another thing to step into a cage with another human being for 15 to 25 minutes and give your all."

With that being said Thompson was the clear winner in my mind. Kimbo won by default which is not a victory in my book. Apparently Gary "The Italian Jew" Shaw see's things a bit differently.

If I were Bas Rutten I would be "100 miles and runnin" away from Kimblow and his bitch posse of Angela Davis afro wearing motherfuckers. Bas should stick to Legends in LA and keep his name respectable like Couture has. Kimbo originally wanted Couture as his mentor. Do you see Randy anywhere around?............

"Bueller......Bueller......Bueller......Bueller?"
"Hello, is this thing on?"


PS It would seem that even fighters from within Kimbo's own organization see through the bullshit and what I've already stated......

http://www.ultimate-fighter.ca/Forum/viewtopic.php?id=15294

Man, you really need to cut Kimbo some slack. He has only been doing MMA for a year or so and all you can do is talk about how limited he is and how much he sucks. Do I think he is the second coming of Rampage Jackson? of course not. His fights however are entertaining and the next free one that comes on TV i will be sure to watch. I think Kimbo made over 180k for his last fight with tank so I am sure he made a nice chunk of change for beating Thompson and as long as he keeps winning and I can be entertained for free I am happy. I wanna see you do one year of MMA and go up against some seasoned vets LOL!


P.S. UFC fed Chuck Liddell ALOT of bums for awhile also. granted Chuck is a hell of alot more skilled than Kimbo but UFC tried to milk Liddell for as long as possible. I feel that Liddell is over hyped form the way Rampage was able to body him with ONE punch! Not to mention how bad he beat up Liddel the first time they met.

[ June 04, 2008, 12:18 AM: Message edited by: East Bay 50 ]
 
Posted by AL STOCK (Member # 1852) on :
 
Most of you guys are correct about Kimbo, most of us didn't care for MMA or never heard of any of these MMA guys untill Kimbo came along.


Who the hell is this johnson clown? Got his ass handed to him from a backyard brawler..

GO KIMBO!! [patriot]


Even if Kimbo's loses a fight, doesn't change the fact that Kimbo has potential, talent and dedication.

Can't wait till his next match.
 
Posted by AL STOCK (Member # 1852) on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by East Bay 50:
quote:
Originally posted by WRS92GT:
I personally can't stand Liddell but he has a great point about Kimbo.

"It's real hard to have your posse film you knocking guys out in under 2 minutes in boatyards.....and it's completely another thing to step into a cage with another human being for 15 to 25 minutes and give your all."

With that being said Thompson was the clear winner in my mind. Kimbo won by default which is not a victory in my book. Apparently Gary "The Italian Jew" Shaw see's things a bit differently.

If I were Bas Rutten I would be "100 miles and runnin" away from Kimblow and his bitch posse of Angela Davis afro wearing motherfuckers. Bas should stick to Legends in LA and keep his name respectable like Couture has. Kimbo originally wanted Couture as his mentor. Do you see Randy anywhere around?............

"Bueller......Bueller......Bueller......Bueller?"
"Hello, is this thing on?"


PS It would seem that even fighters from within Kimbo's own organization see through the bullshit and what I've already stated......

http://www.ultimate-fighter.ca/Forum/viewtopic.php?id=15294

Man, you really need to cut Kimbo some slack. He has only been doing MMA for a year or so and all you can do is talk about how limited he is and how much he sucks. Do I think he is the second coming of Rampage Jackson? of course not. His fights however are entertaining and the next free one that comes on TV i will be sure to watch. I think Kimbo made over 180k for his last fight with tank so I am sure he made a nice chunk of change for beating Thompson and as long as he keeps winning and I can be entertained for free I am happy. I wanna see you do one year of MMA and go up against some seasoned vets LOL!


P.S. UFC fed Chuck Liddell ALOT of bums for awhile also. granted Chuck is a hell of alot more skilled than Kimbo but UFC tried to milk Liddell for as long as possible. I feel that Liddell is over hyped form the way Rampage was able to body him with ONE punch! Not to mention how bad he beat up Liddel the first time they met.

I wanna see you do one year of MMA and go up against some seasoned vets LOL!

^^ Can you say "BLOWN HEAD GASKET" HAHAHAH!!! [Wink]
 




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