This is topic deal with 1320master in forum General Talk at Northern California Ford Owners  .


To visit this topic, use this URL:
https://californiafords.com/cgi-bin/ultimatebb.cgi?ubb=get_topic;f=1;t=030358

---

Posted by asskickn88 (Member # 4957) on :
 
A couple weeks ago I picked up a 351 engine that was posted here as a roller motor. I got the motor to my shop and a couple days later my friend started pulling it apart for me. He called me at work and told me it didnt have a roller cam. I called Mark, told him what I was told about the motor and the I would check myself to make sure it wasnt a roller block. I inspected it and found its in fact not a roller cam motor as it was being sold as. I made 3 calls to him and left 3 messages, got no calls back. I asked a mutual friend to contact him and have him call me, he never did. I sent him a PM here and got one back saying "Sorry that it wasn't a roller block what do you want me to do its still a good engine you can still put a retro roller kit in it.". I returned the PM saying that it would cost me too much to convert it and never got a response. I know its a 351 but its not what was posted and I'm not going to put a flat tappet motor in my truck or spend a ton of money to convert it by buying special lifters or cam. I could have gotten a non roller motor months ago and cheaper but I passed to get a roller block. I didnt buy this motor to spend the time to try and resell it to hopefully make most of the money back, thats just bullshit. Sorry for the long post but I feel people should know about the bad deals that happen as well as the good ones.

Here is a link to the original post, the title and description was deleted after the contact about the engine not being what was posted. web page

[ August 29, 2007, 11:09 PM: Message edited by: asskickn88 ]
 

---

Posted by Eddie510- (Member # 2354) on :
 
good luck , hope everything works out and he responds
 

---

Posted by asskickn88 (Member # 4957) on :
 
I waited a week since my last message was read to hear back but nothing. There are a few people on here that I feel I can trust buying from and thought he was one of them..... just sucks to find out like this that he's not.
 

---

Posted by RED@7kVERT *8850GT* (Member # 5909) on :
 
um...he should prolly make it right. thats some shady shit.....
 

---

Posted by 89point. (Member # 6078) on :
 
you dont deserve that shit bro, we have met up plenty of times with good deals and your a good guy, he needs to make that shit right for you.
 

---

Posted by solbrothers (Member # 7524) on :
 
damn that's really messed up. glad all the business ive done with people on this site has gone well.
 

---

Posted by SmokinLX (Member # 1684) on :
 
Yeah that does'nt sound rite . You deserve a refund!
 

---

Posted by asskickn88 (Member # 4957) on :
 
Thanks guys, I appreciate the support. I'm sure quite a few people have had good deals with Mark and thats great, I didnt. I really dont think he intentionally sold me the motor knowing it wasnt a roller, I just think after posting it as one he should at least try and make it right. I always try to be fair and understanding with people because my reputation is on the line. If I sold something and it turned out to not be what I said it was I would make it right, no ifs ands or buts about it.
 

---

Posted by hidnn.o.s. (Member # 1219) on :
 
This is bullshit. He should come to you, pick up the motor and give you a full refund. If he does anything less HE SHOULD BE IP BANNED IMMEDIATELY.

Mods, no thoughts on this with the evidence we have?
 

---

Posted by Dag302 (Member # 4682) on :
 
Most people know I am very good friends with asskickn. I also have had many good dealings with 1320master. That is one reason why Jeff jumped at buying this motor. It was from a guy I had very good dealings with and had future dealings planned. This situation blew me away. I kept telling Jeff he would take care of it. He waited days back for a phone call and then basically has been told to deal with it. I am glad he finally posted this up. He gave more than enough time to hear back and set something up. Jeff is very fair and would have worked with him on this in the beginning. Now he is just stuck with a motor we could of got at pick n pull.

[ August 28, 2007, 09:52 PM: Message edited by: Dag302 ]
 

---

Posted by asskickn88 (Member # 4957) on :
 
I'm not asking to have him banned, at this point I dont expect him to do anything about this situation either. I just want to warn people to check out your parts carefully before picking them up, the person might not really know what they are selling is what they say it is. This is the first time I've had to call someone out on a shitty deal and hopefully the last. Anyone out there that I have sold parts to or helped out know that I go above and beyond to be fair.

[ August 28, 2007, 09:54 PM: Message edited by: asskickn88 ]
 

---

Posted by 66backinblack (Member # 5372) on :
 
damn another bad deal, that sucks man. its not cheap converting those things to rollers either, ive been there and done that
 

---

Posted by Bizob (Member # 3768) on :
 
Dude thats not right. I hope this all gets sorted out and you get your money back. Him telling you to just "deal with it" is complete BS.
 

---

Posted by adower (Member # 5955) on :
 
That sucks !!!! I bought my 93 cobra from asskickn and he went above and beyond to help me out with little problems here and there. Hopefully 1320 will fix this.
 

---

Posted by BlowN67 (Member # 4229) on :
 
hell nah I always thought u were an ass everytime i meet up with u u just tried to screw me...You got what u deserved .... LOL sounded good didnt it. hope it all works out for ya JEFF

[ August 29, 2007, 12:55 AM: Message edited by: BlowN67 ]
 

---

Posted by uh0h50 (Member # 3125) on :
 
another reason why this site needs a caution forum so we can help each other out... this kind of stuff is gettin a little more frequent. sorry to hear about your situation.
 

---

Posted by FoRdGiRl (Member # 6279) on :
 
damn that hella sucks you are a good dude and came through big time when i sold u the stang and were honest and did everythign u said u would plus more i really hope dude finds a way to make this right no need to make things bad w people theres enough shady people on this site.. i hope it works out good luck w everything
 

---

Posted by venomous99 (Member # 1917) on :
 
so where is this 1320master? i guess his silence says a lot.
 

---

Posted by asskickn88 (Member # 4957) on :
 
It does suck when this happens, I'm sure all the other people that wanted this motor are happy they didnt end up with it after all. I have had this happen to me in the past where I wanted something and someone else got it but then found out it was a shit deal. I do agree that we should have a feeback rating system here but in my case I dont think it would have helped, I cant think of anyone having a problem with him in the past. There are a people on here that I still trust without question though.
 

---

Posted by jmcclesk (Member # 1355) on :
 


[ August 29, 2007, 10:54 PM: Message edited by: jmcclesk ]
 

---

Posted by asskickn88 (Member # 4957) on :
 


[ August 29, 2007, 09:41 PM: Message edited by: asskickn88 ]
 

---

Posted by Dag302 (Member # 4682) on :
 


[ August 29, 2007, 08:54 PM: Message edited by: Dag302 ]
 

---

Posted by jmcclesk (Member # 1355) on :
 


[ August 29, 2007, 10:26 PM: Message edited by: jmcclesk ]
 

---

Posted by 1320MASTER (Member # 773) on :
 
asskickn88 check you pms
 

---

Posted by asskickn88 (Member # 4957) on :
 

quote:

---

Originally posted by jmcclesk:
For 20.00 i wasnt going to say any thing. here is my # if you want 916-289-7340. Call if you like. Mark has been on here a long time. Do a search I think this is the first time ANYONE has had a problem.

---

quote:

---

Originally posted by jmcclesk:
Thank you for calling asskicking88

---

quote:

---

Originally posted by 532Fastback:
That sucks, you should get a refund of your money since you thought you were buying a roller block and it was advertised as a roller block

---

One would think so, huh.....
 

---

Posted by asskickn88 (Member # 4957) on :
 
I wanted to say thanks for everyone that posted up in my favor on this issue. I pride myself on being fair with everyone I deal with and not starting or getting into shit with others. I didnt post this to start a bunch of trouble for anyone. I was pissed off but put a lot of time and thought into what I posted because I wanted to present the truth plain and simple. There are a ton of good members on this board and no matter what 1320MASTER is a respected member here and should be. He is an old school hot rodder and mechanic that has skills beyond mine. I never said he knowingly lied to me about the motor, I'm sure it was a mistake. I was upset about what had happened and just felt that things should have been handled differently than they are. I just want this thing to die, if something changes down the road I'll let everyone know. In this case it wont do any good to follow him around the board posting comments reguarding this deal. I've seen a few people that deserved it but not in this case. I got only one PM from him about this matter that was less than friendly but I figured out why and I understand. My truck will be back on the road shortly after I get the GT back up and going..... its all about having fun in my fast Fords, not arguing over bullshit!
 

---

Posted by rgtrahn (Member # 7133) on :
 

quote:

---

Originally posted by asskickn88:
I wanted to say thanks for everyone that posted up in my favor on this issue. I pride myself on being fair with everyone I deal with and not starting or getting into shit with others. I didnt post this to start a bunch of trouble for anyone. I was pissed off but put a lot of time and thought into what I posted because I wanted to present the truth plain and simple. There are a ton of good members on this board and no matter what 1320MASTER is a respected member here and should be. He is an old school hot rodder and mechanic that has skills beyond mine. I never said he knowingly lied to me about the motor, I'm sure it was a mistake. I was upset about what had happened and just felt that things should have been handled differently than they are. I just want this thing to die, if something changes down the road I'll let everyone know. In this case it wont do any good to follow him around the board posting comments reguarding this deal. I've seen a few people that deserved it but not in this case. I got only one PM from him about this matter that was less than friendly but I figured out why and I understand. My truck will be back on the road shortly after I get the GT back up and going..... its all about having fun in my fast Fords, not arguing over bullshit!

---

I admire your maturity. I think you handled your position very well. You did not get into the name calling or profane language, as some might do. I feel bad for your situation and that you got burnt on this deal knowingly or mistakenly . Something should be done to make it right.
 

---

Posted by hidnn.o.s. (Member # 1219) on :
 
He should be banned from the FORDSALE section, imo. This is bullshit. I don't really even know either of you, but I'd like to think this is a safe site to buy from where if something does go wrong, it will be taken care of and not even come into question.

His "FordSale" threads will have reminders of this in them, so other people know what they are getting into. Otherwise I'll leave him alone.
 

---

Posted by 89point. (Member # 6078) on :
 
i agree, im tired of seeing people get burned by other members on this site, people should start getting banned from the for sale section like hidnnos said its starting become a trend and really some bull shit if you ask me, make it right
 

---

Posted by 2stangs69-91 (Member # 1951) on :
 
I got burned on a manifold on here before, it was suposed to be a super victor EFI spider. it turns out it was a Victor JR spider(kind of my fault I requsted pics before it was sent but never got any. I still sent the cash anyhow)I brought it up to the guy he still thinks it was a super. I just kind of ate it because I can still resell it and get some of my money back. Or use it. I guess sometimes in buying used parts you win sometimes you loose. Some people screw you but honestly didn't know. I guess the only way to get exactly what you want is to check it out before you buy or buy new. good luck.
 

---