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Posted by 93PONY (Member # 60) on :
 
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Those are UN-Corrected #'s (actual power put out on the dyno).
SAE corrected was 442/395 Rear Wheel.

Combo:
11:1 347
Ported VicJr heads
Ported Vic50 intake
Custom camshaft (248/245 111LSA)
1.72 rockers
75MM TB, 80MM mass-air
1 3/4 longtubes, 3-inch exhaust
Tremec 3550

Hopefully I can get to the track before the weather gets warm...
 
Posted by Eagle347 (Member # 6205) on :
 
Is this the one with the modified intake manifold?
 
Posted by 1Sicgt (Member # 714) on :
 
Not bad, not bad. [patriot]
 
Posted by JohnB (Member # 969) on :
 
Not bad!

But what's up with the A/F?? [Confused]
 
Posted by Luke87GT (Member # 21) on :
 
very impressive [patriot]
 
Posted by hidnn.o.s. (Member # 1219) on :
 
Nice numbers [patriot]
 
Posted by NO MANRZ (Member # 566) on :
 
306, 331, 347?
 
Posted by hidnn.o.s. (Member # 1219) on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by 93PONY:
347

[Razz]
 
Posted by NO MANRZ (Member # 566) on :
 
She's a screamer [patriot]
 
Posted by 93PONY (Member # 60) on :
 
I couldn't get the modified intake to work.... for some reason A/F went CRAZY lean even though there were no vacuum leaks. I'm sending off the modified intake & fuel rail setup to Brian @HiTechMotorsports for testing. I don't have the time to fuck with it anymore....& I'm VERY happy with the power this combo has already put out!

The spike in the A/F is due to the PMS. It can only modify injector pulse-width in 500rpm increments from 2000rpm up. So at 3000rpm the A/F is fine & at 3500rpm it's fine, but for some reason between those 2 points it went lean....so I left the A/F at 3000 & 3500 on the rich side.
 
Posted by 98slowhoe 'FIFTYLX' (Member # 895) on :
 
pretty good man. I need to get down there and have my poop tuned out.
 
Posted by silverLX (Member # 3207) on :
 
That is an Awesome combo and very impressive numbers. I want one [Big Grin]
 
Posted by streakmatt (Member # 6257) on :
 
Nice numbers Shaun. Is that a different cam then before? Also, didn't it make 421 HP? If so then you gained 21 HP more up top [patriot] Too bad on the intake i was really interested in the results. I hope to see you and Heather out at Grudge night or Ford vs. Chevy soon.
 
Posted by 93PONY (Member # 60) on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by streakmatt:
Nice numbers Shaun. Is that a different cam then before? Also, didn't it make 421 HP? If so then you gained 21 HP more up top [patriot] Too bad on the intake i was really interested in the results. I hope to see you and Heather out at Grudge night or Ford vs. Chevy soon.

Thanks Matt.
The camshaft is different than before....it's less aggressive & a little larger off the seat....especially on the exhaust side. (15 degrees larger @.006).
It last put down 421/388 Rear Wheel on ForcedFed's *dyno dynamics* dynometer, which is a load bearing dyno. The new #'s are on a dynojet 224. Who's to say whether or not it really gained anything.....that'll be decided at the track....hopefully pretty soon!
I'd like to make a run or 2 at the Norcal-LS1 event.. & Ideally get some seat time between now & then.

[ March 31, 2006, 10:27 PM: Message edited by: 93PONY ]
 
Posted by Yellow94GT (Member # 431) on :
 
I hand down the torch [Wink]

Maybe if I can ever get my distributer and cam to quit eating eachother you can hand it back [Razz]
 
Posted by 93PONY (Member # 60) on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by Yellow94GT:
I hand down the torch [Wink]

Maybe if I can ever get my distributer and cam to quit eating eachother you can hand it back [Razz]

I may have to have a *chat* with your tuner.....& make sure you don't get that torch back. [Razz]
 
Posted by Yellow94GT (Member # 431) on :
 
[Eek!] You wouldn't!
 
Posted by svt306snake (Member # 1967) on :
 
great shit shaun [Big Grin]
 
Posted by CDT (Member # 5004) on :
 
maybe now you can keep up with our little AFR 165 combo. [Razz]
 
Posted by 93PONY (Member # 60) on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by CDT:
maybe now you can keep up with our little AFR 165 combo. [Razz]

I'm sure as hell going to try! [Big Grin]
 
Posted by CDT (Member # 5004) on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by 93PONY:
quote:
Originally posted by CDT:
maybe now you can keep up with our little AFR 165 combo. [Razz]

I'm sure as hell going to try! [Big Grin]
it may be a little harder for you now [burnout]
 
Posted by 93PONY (Member # 60) on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by CDT:
quote:
Originally posted by 93PONY:
quote:
Originally posted by CDT:
maybe now you can keep up with our little AFR 165 combo. [Razz]

I'm sure as hell going to try! [Big Grin]
it may be a little harder for you now [burnout]
Why is that? [Confused]
 
Posted by CDT (Member # 5004) on :
 
now that it has realiable transmission, hopefully it will be faster. If that doesnt do it, we can alway put some bigger heads we have laying around, or better cam.
 
Posted by Yellow94GT (Member # 431) on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by CDT:
now that it has realiable transmission, hopefully it will be faster. If that doesnt do it, we can alway put some bigger heads we have laying around, or better cam.

Maybe you can convert it to EFI so that its in the same ball park as these mild mannered, hydro roller street cars you compare it to [Wink]
 
Posted by CDT (Member # 5004) on :
 
that is the plan if a turbo goes on. even if we did, I am sure people would still complain that it has a carb style intake. And it is MUCH milder than most combos.
 
Posted by sharkattack (Member # 645) on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by 93PONY:
 -

Those are UN-Corrected #'s (actual power put out on the dyno).
SAE corrected was 442/395 Rear Wheel.

Combo:
11:1 347
Ported VicJr heads
Ported Vic50 intake
Custom camshaft (248/245 111LSA)
1.72 rockers
75MM TB, 80MM mass-air
1 3/4 longtubes, 3-inch exhaust
Tremec 3550

Hopefully I can get to the track before the weather gets warm...

And right before that, Shaun tuned my Cobra to 486 HP and 476 TQ! Car is a Manimal

[ April 01, 2006, 01:22 PM: Message edited by: sharkattack ]
 
Posted by NavidR (Member # 3164) on :
 
So when you going to take the turbo kit off the 93 and let the wife barrow it? LOL

Amazing numbers Shaun, great job once again!

Navid
 
Posted by Yellow94GT (Member # 431) on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by NavidR:
So when you going to take the turbo kit off the 93 and let the wife barrow it? LOL

Amazing numbers Shaun, great job once again!

Navid

He's going to have to do something with the Cobra now, cause his wifes N/A setup will put a hurtin on his TT Cobra [Big Grin] [worship]
 
Posted by 2stangs69-91 (Member # 1951) on :
 
so are you no longer running a reverse split? I just read on hardcore 5.0 forums. It still looks like a reverse split with a faster ramp on the intake lobe. Is this a HCI or FTI or your own? Nice numbers it is sure hard not to like the Vic Jr heads after seeing the results on this board.

[ April 01, 2006, 02:14 PM: Message edited by: 2stangs69-91 ]
 
Posted by 91PONY (Member # 206) on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by NavidR:
So when you going to take the turbo kit off the 93 and let the wife barrow it? LOL

Amazing numbers Shaun, great job once again!

Navid

We've gone back and forth so many times with what to do with both cars. LOL I *think* the current plan is to put an auto in the TT..... [Razz]
 
Posted by Yellow94GT (Member # 431) on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by 2stangs69-91:
so are you no longer running a reverse split? I just read on 5.0 forums. It still looks like a reverse split with a faster ramp on the intake lobe. Is this a HCI or FTI or your own? Nice numbers it is sure hard not to like the Vic Jr heads after seeing the results on this board.

Shaun finally swallowed his pride and got the new cam from Brian at HiTech Motorsport [Eek!]
 
Posted by AaronC (Member # 86) on :
 
Great #'s, but I expected them [Smile]

Sawson's friend recently dynoed his carbed 347 with a dinky Hitech Motorsport cam. 403 RWHP (Brian quoted 375) from a 224/230 .555/.512 111 lsa cam. I was surprised at the specs because of it being carbed and it's still a reverse split profile when you factor in lobe area. I forget the manifold but 650 carb and some AFR 185's. The graph looked excellent and a lot like an EFI setup. It should haul ass since it's in a kit car cobra. Another well done NA setup [patriot]
 
Posted by Cobra5.0Jeep (Member # 1482) on :
 
whats the difference between corrected and uncorrected?
 
Posted by 2stangs69-91 (Member # 1951) on :
 
maybe somebody forgot to tell the 347 it was carbed instead of EFI? Or the air flow of the heads, intake,longer stroke and compresion ratio dictates the cam grind more than just the air flow of the intake.
 
Posted by 93PONY (Member # 60) on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by Yellow94GT:
quote:
Originally posted by 2stangs69-91:
so are you no longer running a reverse split? I just read on 5.0 forums. It still looks like a reverse split with a faster ramp on the intake lobe. Is this a HCI or FTI or your own? Nice numbers it is sure hard not to like the Vic Jr heads after seeing the results on this board.

Shaun finally swallowed his pride and got the new cam from Brian at HiTech Motorsport [Eek!]
I did order the cam from Brian, but I designed it myself, gave him the specs & he ordered placed the order. I'm not a Comp dealer....yet.
Brian wanted to put the 244 XE lobe on the exhaust.... I wanted something less aggressive with more seat duration.....the 307 magnum lobe was as close as I could easily get.

It's a tricky little bugger.... Goes from 10 degrees exhaust bias @.006, to 3 degrees intake bias @.050, to 11 degrees intake bias @.200.

Thnaks for all the complements guys! [patriot]
 
Posted by Yellow94GT (Member # 431) on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by 93PONY:
quote:
Originally posted by Yellow94GT:
quote:
Originally posted by 2stangs69-91:
so are you no longer running a reverse split? I just read on 5.0 forums. It still looks like a reverse split with a faster ramp on the intake lobe. Is this a HCI or FTI or your own? Nice numbers it is sure hard not to like the Vic Jr heads after seeing the results on this board.

Shaun finally swallowed his pride and got the new cam from Brian at HiTech Motorsport [Eek!]
I did order the cam from Brian, but I designed it myself, gave him the specs & he ordered placed the order. I'm not a Comp dealer....yet.
Brian wanted to put the 244 XE lobe on the exhaust.... I wanted something less aggressive with more seat duration.....the 307 magnum lobe was as close as I could easily get.

It's a tricky little bugger.... Goes from 10 degrees exhaust bias @.006, to 3 degrees intake bias @.050, to 11 degrees intake bias @.200.

Thnaks for all the complements guys! [patriot]

I know its not a Brian cam, I was just giving you a hard time for the "chat with my tuner" comment [Wink] [Big Grin]
 
Posted by 93PONY (Member # 60) on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by Yellow94GT:
quote:
Originally posted by 93PONY:
quote:
Originally posted by Yellow94GT:
quote:
Originally posted by 2stangs69-91:
so are you no longer running a reverse split? I just read on 5.0 forums. It still looks like a reverse split with a faster ramp on the intake lobe. Is this a HCI or FTI or your own? Nice numbers it is sure hard not to like the Vic Jr heads after seeing the results on this board.

Shaun finally swallowed his pride and got the new cam from Brian at HiTech Motorsport [Eek!]
I did order the cam from Brian, but I designed it myself, gave him the specs & he ordered placed the order. I'm not a Comp dealer....yet.
Brian wanted to put the 244 XE lobe on the exhaust.... I wanted something less aggressive with more seat duration.....the 307 magnum lobe was as close as I could easily get.

It's a tricky little bugger.... Goes from 10 degrees exhaust bias @.006, to 3 degrees intake bias @.050, to 11 degrees intake bias @.200.

Thnaks for all the complements guys! [patriot]

I know its not a Brian cam, I was just giving you a hard time for the "chat with my tuner" comment [Wink] [Big Grin]
Oh you're really in for it now Buddy! [Razz]
Plan on Next Sunday?
 
Posted by venomous99 (Member # 1917) on :
 
94gt and hidnnos should go at it in the ring with the winner getting drew's lx.
should be the headliner at the next apex show.
 
Posted by Yellow94GT (Member # 431) on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by venomous99:
94gt and hidnnos should go at it in the ring with the winner getting drew's lx.
should be the headliner at the next apex show.

[Confused]
 
Posted by venomous99 (Member # 1917) on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by Yellow94GT:
quote:
Originally posted by venomous99:
94gt and hidnnos should go at it in the ring with the winner getting drew's lx.
should be the headliner at the next apex show.

[Confused]
lol
mustve mixed up threads..that was a response to shiftylx's thread where 94gt and hidnnos were going at it(more than once ive noticed).
 
Posted by 93PONY (Member # 60) on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by Cobra5.0Jeep:
whats the difference between corrected and uncorrected?

Uncorrected is Actual power produced on the dyno on that particular run.
You can then correct the #'s for easy comparison between dynos, different temps, etc. SAE corrects for a given altitude, temp, density air, etc. In this case the air was much better than the SAE correction factor & therefore SAE corrected #'s were lower than the actual power the motor produced.
 
Posted by AaronC (Member # 86) on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by 2stangs69-91:
maybe somebody forgot to tell the 347 it was carbed instead of EFI? Or the air flow of the heads, intake,longer stroke and compresion ratio dictates the cam grind more than just the air flow of the intake.

EFI manifolds are much more restrictive and the runner lengths are different. Hence the reason of a different size stick. You'll never see EFI crack 400 with a 224 duration intake lobe. Typcally it'd take at least a 240 duration intake lobe to crack 400 with EFI. Which was my point because there are several 347's with the same parts but EFI (AFR's, 11:1 compression, with same stroke etc). So the overall flow is the same on the bulk of the parts except the type of manifold, which is why it only needed that small of a camshaft to bust 400.
 
Posted by 2stangs69-91 (Member # 1951) on :
 
what about a EFI with a spider intake?
 
Posted by 93PONY (Member # 60) on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by 2stangs69-91:
what about a EFI with a spider intake?

Now you're talkin'! [Smile]
That'll take care of most of the restrictions in the EFI manifold compared to Carburated. Even better is a DFI setup with one of those Accufab 4 barrel TB's.
 
Posted by 98slowhoe 'FIFTYLX' (Member # 895) on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by 93PONY:
quote:
Originally posted by Yellow94GT:
quote:
Originally posted by 93PONY:
quote:
Originally posted by Yellow94GT:
quote:
Originally posted by 2stangs69-91:
so are you no longer running a reverse split? I just read on 5.0 forums. It still looks like a reverse split with a faster ramp on the intake lobe. Is this a HCI or FTI or your own? Nice numbers it is sure hard not to like the Vic Jr heads after seeing the results on this board.

Shaun finally swallowed his pride and got the new cam from Brian at HiTech Motorsport [Eek!]
I did order the cam from Brian, but I designed it myself, gave him the specs & he ordered placed the order. I'm not a Comp dealer....yet.
Brian wanted to put the 244 XE lobe on the exhaust.... I wanted something less aggressive with more seat duration.....the 307 magnum lobe was as close as I could easily get.

It's a tricky little bugger.... Goes from 10 degrees exhaust bias @.006, to 3 degrees intake bias @.050, to 11 degrees intake bias @.200.

Thnaks for all the complements guys! [patriot]

I know its not a Brian cam, I was just giving you a hard time for the "chat with my tuner" comment [Wink] [Big Grin]
Oh you're really in for it now Buddy! [Razz]
Plan on Next Sunday?

Can I come on Sunday?
 
Posted by AaronC (Member # 86) on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by 2stangs69-91:
what about a EFI with a spider intake?

Cam it like a carb setup since it's basically a carb manifold with injectors.
 
Posted by 2stangs69-91 (Member # 1951) on :
 
I know [Wink] I was just throwing in some food for thought.
 




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