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Stangn5oh
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Well I seem to buy mismatched parts because of the Cafords low price then rethink.I'm very indecisive and change my mind constantly.
I need a plan, route, guide, etc.

What I have laying around
Rebuilt 89 5.0 motor bored to. 30 over w/28oz crank.
Stock cam or e-cam
1.6 svo RR or 1.7 Crane came RR
edelbrock performer heads "not the 2.02"
Edelbrock performer upper and lower intake
24lb injectors
Bbk adjustable fpr
Sn95 file rails
76mm granetelli mass air
Alt.waterpump.crank. alum.pullies

89 gt 3;73 gears and 5speed

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I'm thinking stick with the 1.6 svo RR and e cam
but I think sticking with the 28oz crank is goanna be a hastle in the longrun and should switch it to a 50oz

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If I'm correct
edelbrock performer upper and lower intake is good for 1500-5500 rpm
Edelbrock performer heads good for 1500-5500

And the e cam is good for 2500-5500

Does that mean the e cam is not for me?
I think maybe it OK if I contradict the low end so I can hook better while keeping the high end where it needs to be " makes sense in my head LOL" but idk realistically

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with your combo listed I think the stock cam retarted 4 degrees with 1.7 rockers would make good power and it would move the stock cams peak power to around 5500rpm or so iirc

should put you around 285rwhp which is right there with cammed combos

only thing retarding the cam would require is an adjustable timing chain

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E-cams are gay! And my stock cam cuts out at 5,200

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quote:
Originally posted by sneakyfox90:
with your combo listed I think the stock cam retarted 4 degrees with 1.7 rockers would make good power and it would move the stock cams peak power to around 5500rpm or so iirc

should put you around 285rwhp which is right there with cammed combos

only thing retarding the cam would require is an
adjustable timing chain

Sounds good, I just assumed the once you get heads and intake you might aswell throw in a cam.
As for the adjustable timing chain ill get.
I like the stock cam idea
Just saying then what cam would be suitable

[ December 07, 2012, 04:05 PM: Message edited by: Stangn5oh ]

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17 Renegade turbo
18 Compass 4x4


Hit the gasser, go faster, all u heard was dual exhaust n flowmasters.

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quote:
Originally posted by NEIGHT:
E-cams are gay! And my stock cam cuts out at 5,200

My stock cam cuts out at 5400 so I ussully shift at 5200.
E cams might be gay but they say its a good upgrade from stock and I have it laying around so yea.

But when j gather all my parts j have plans of taking it to Dan turbo50

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18 Compass 4x4


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I've seen stock cam combos make around 300rwhp and over 330rwtq just by retarding the stock cam 4 degrees and matching that with decent flowing heads and intake (165s and a explorer intake)
Puts you in the ballpark, and it will idle like stock

Edit: and you could always sell the ecam for the timing chain lol I'd do that over running an ecam hands down
Plus the stock cam doesn't hav to be pulled out when you degree it

[ December 07, 2012, 04:54 PM: Message edited by: sneakyfox90 ]

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Are u lookin for peak numbers or actual street performance? I wouldn't retard it all motor I'd just add the 1.7s but that's just me........

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quote:
Originally posted by turbo50:
Are u lookin for peak numbers or actual street performance? I wouldn't retard it all motor I'd just add the 1.7s but that's just me........

Peak or actual street??? Is that like what the dyno says compared to the lower dynoed car next to you just beat you???
OK stock cam and 1.7's
I know I'm saying I have a stock cam and a e cam... I don't care to have my car sounding cammed on OK with stock if you reccamend... but I think I need to pm you or just talk to you more specific.
Would you recamend ANY other cam IF IT. WAS YOUR MOTOR I'm OK with anything you recamend it will just take me a bit longer but worth it [Smile]

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17 Renegade turbo
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Hit the gasser, go faster, all u heard was dual exhaust n flowmasters.

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quote:
Originally posted by Stangn5oh:
quote:
Originally posted by turbo50:
Are u lookin for peak numbers or actual street performance? I wouldn't retard it all motor I'd just add the 1.7s but that's just me........

Peak or actual street??? Is that like what the dyno says compared to the lower dynoed car next to you just beat you???
OK stock cam and 1.7's
I know I'm saying I have a stock cam and a e cam... I don't care to have my car sounding cammed on OK with stock if you reccamend... but I think I need to pm you or just talk to you more specific.
Would you recamend ANY other cam IF IT. WAS YOUR MOTOR I'm OK with anything you recamend it will just take me a bit longer but worth it [Smile]

Do you want it to be a beast all over or make nice numbers high in your rpm's??? Custom cam your heads and intake 1.6's 70mm tb 24's 13-14 degrees advanced should be a street runner. Lmk if I'm wrong uncle Dan?!?!?

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quote:
Originally posted by Stangn5oh:
quote:
Originally posted by turbo50:
Are u lookin for peak numbers or actual street performance? I wouldn't retard it all motor I'd just add the 1.7s but that's just me........

Peak or actual street??? Is that like what the dyno says compared to the lower dynoed car next to you just beat you???
OK stock cam and 1.7's
I know I'm saying I have a stock cam and a e cam... I don't care to have my car sounding cammed on OK with stock if you reccamend... but I think I need to pm you or just talk to you more specific.
Would you recamend ANY other cam IF IT. WAS YOUR MOTOR I'm OK with anything you recamend it will just take me a bit longer but worth it [Smile]

Eddie rpm 2 or holley intake, custom cam, flycut pistons, afr 185 1422's or fast as cast with spring upgrade.

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quote:
Originally posted by LXjames:
quote:
Originally posted by Stangn5oh:
quote:
Originally posted by turbo50:
Are u lookin for peak numbers or actual street performance? I wouldn't retard it all motor I'd just add the 1.7s but that's just me........

Peak or actual street??? Is that like what the dyno says compared to the lower dynoed car next to you just beat you???
OK stock cam and 1.7's
I know I'm saying I have a stock cam and a e cam... I don't care to have my car sounding cammed on OK with stock if you reccamend... but I think I need to pm you or just talk to you more specific.
Would you recamend ANY other cam IF IT. WAS YOUR MOTOR I'm OK with anything you recamend it will just take me a bit longer but worth it [Smile]

Do you want it to be a beast all over or make nice numbers high in your rpm's??? Custom cam your heads and intake 1.6's 70mm tb 24's 13-14 degrees advanced should be a street runner. Lmk if I'm wrong uncle Dan?!?!?
This set up is no problem...
Custom cam???? Do you mean something like crower cam, or idk.

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17 Renegade turbo
18 Compass 4x4


Hit the gasser, go faster, all u heard was dual exhaust n flowmasters.

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I had those heads with stock cam and replaced it with the e 303 cam and my car pulled way harder than stock..it was fun on the street...your gonna get all types of opinions.
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quote:
Originally posted by turbo50:
quote:
Originally posted by Stangn5oh:
[QUOTE]Originally posted by turbo50:
Are u lookin for peak numbers or actual street performance? I wouldn't retard it all motor I'd just add the 1.7s but that's just me........

Peak or actual street??? Is that like what the dyno says compared to the lower dynoed car next to you just beat you???
OK stock cam and 1.7's
I know I'm saying I have a stock cam and a e cam... I don't care to have my car sounding cammed on OK with stock if you reccamend... but I think I need to pm you or just talk to you more specific.
Would you recamend ANY other cam IF IT. WAS YOUR MOTOR I'm OK with anything you recamend it will just take me a bit longer but worth it [Smile]

Eddie rpm 2 or holley intake, custom cam, flycut pistons, afr 185 1422's or fast as cast with spring upgrade. [/QUO
Nice,but then non of my parts are salvageable, except the block itself.very good set up but I plan on building this simple h/c/I motor n/a, then build a supercharged motor down the road
I'm not wanting to throw that amount of money on my current build but definetly down the road

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17 Renegade turbo
18 Compass 4x4


Hit the gasser, go faster, all u heard was dual exhaust n flowmasters.

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Just put what you have together what you have and go have fun. Better to leave a little power on the table than to let all the shit sit because you want every last ounce of power......dont make the mistake I did and several others do. Go enjoy it.

Dan

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what dan said!!! couldn't of said any better!!!!
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Eddie rpm 2 or holley intake, custom cam, flycut pistons, afr 185 1422's or fast as cast with spring upgrade.


Damn, This sounds like a great combo that will make gobs of power [patriot]

People will [worship] the dude that has this under the hood. Trust [burnout]

[ December 09, 2012, 11:26 PM: Message edited by: Fast(er) Eddie ]

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