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88FOX
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my friend has a 2000 mazda protege' that needs a new cat.. the mechanic is telling him it needs a specific to that car cat thats guna cost a arm and leg that only the dealership has... now im thinking hes just trying to mark up the cat for profit.. has anyone ever heard of cars that need specific cats and could his be one of them? i know they make universal cats so i told him that might be a possibility.. i think of it this way if the car has 2.5" exhaust piping then all you need is a 2.5 inlet/outlet cat and your good?? am i stupid?
Posts: 1938 | From: bay area | Registered: Apr 2010
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Captain Obvious
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quote: Originally posted by 88FOX: my friend has a 2000 mazda protege' that needs a new cat.. the mechanic is telling him it needs a specific to that car cat thats guna cost a arm and leg that only the dealership has... now im thinking hes just trying to mark up the cat for profit.. has anyone ever heard of cars that need specific cats and could his be one of them? i know they make universal cats so i told him that might be a possibility.. i think of it this way if the car has 2.5" exhaust piping then all you need is a 2.5 inlet/outlet cat and your good?? am i stupid?
is the cat is some weird ass position along the exhaust and because of that its a car specific part?
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Farrell
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Ive heard this said too, as long as its an obd2 replacement cat with the 02 sensor holes in the right place you should be able to get a generic one. Probably not a universal one, but autozone usually has the generic brand ones that are the right shape/size. a lot of times they will have one right off the exaust manifold and then another one farther down the pipe under the car. The exaust manifold ones are the ones that have to be pretty specific.
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Posts: 287 | From: Rhode Island | Registered: Mar 2011
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Adam5.0
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this is what your friend needs
http://car-sound.com/02product/shopdisplayproducts.asp
search your buddys car and the front universal cat is $845
sounds like the shop is telling the truth. fyi all shops mark up the price of parts. thats how they cover themselves in case of a warrenty comeback [ August 19, 2011, 07:11 PM: Message edited by: Adam5.0 ]
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Posts: 1609 | From: Brentwood | Registered: Aug 2006
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88FOX
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quote: Originally posted by Adam5.0: this is what your friend needs
http://car-sound.com/02product/shopdisplayproducts.asp
search your buddys car and the front universal cat is $845
sounds like the shop is telling the truth. fyi all shops mark up the price of parts. thats how they cover themselves in case of a warrenty comeback
yea i no they have to mark up but i just thought he was guna try and make a killing off him because he can tell he doesnt mess with cars much.. but yea ive been looking it up and most places wont ship anything for him to ca.. he said he failed it on smog once now hes gota fix the cat and retest.. what do you guys think about him doing it the no cat way and just paying someone to make it pass.. if he failed it once would it be hard for someone to make it right? because the previous submitted numbers? jus tryin to help him save mony hes in the same boat all of us r pretty much it [ August 19, 2011, 07:27 PM: Message edited by: 88FOX ]
Posts: 1938 | From: bay area | Registered: Apr 2010
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Adam5.0
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you could try to find a used cat from a part out or craigslist, ebay, mazda forum etc... that would be the cheapest just might take time
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Raelsmar
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Damn that shit is expensive. A new cat and 02 sensor for my 240sx ran me $190 at Napa Auto Parts. But that was with a discount.
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Posts: 3768 | From: Vallejo, CA | Registered: Feb 2010
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SLOWSN95
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Usually the cheap generic cats dont last so long. The previous owner of my toyota pickup threw a cheap one on and after 2 years of owning my truck and 2 years with that "new" cat on, it BARELY passed smog.
My advice to your friend is to possibly find a discount Mazda website, buy a cat from them and then bring the cat to a shop for them to put on. Goodluck to your friend
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a lot of the time the reason why a car cant use a universal cat is because of the catalyst effeciency monitor. obd2 cars use pre cat 02sensors and post cat. and the pcm compares the readings of the 2 sensors to detirmine how good of a job the cat is doing. you can throw on a universal cat and it will pass the sniffer test, but it may not pass the manufactures specs to pass the cat effeciency monitor. this will cause a catalyst efficiency code and turn on the check engine light. and a car wont pass smog with a check engine light illuminated, no matter how clean the tail pipe readings are. sucks i know lol
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