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Jaejae5.0
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im already aware of the valve guide issues..the heads im lookin to buy have already had those replaced..anything else i should look out for when buying them??..any major flaws in the casting?..these are the older trickflows..im looking to purchase but wanna know the cons..thank you
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Blind
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if it's still the double valve springs you might want to swap them depending on what cam/rocker ratio
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wilit
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I remember that the real early heads had valve geometry issues and Harland Sharp even marketed a set of rockers to correct the issue. Not sure when all that got sorted out, but I remember reading about those issues years ago.
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turbo50
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The guides got chewed up cuz the heads were funky and in order to get the rockers to ride the valve correctly you had to play with them a bit.
Most folks just bolted them on and went. Matter of fact most folks just bolt all heads on and go....most motor builds never have the valve train geometry issues addressed.
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Someone chime in if I'm overstepping my knowledge, but the geometry of those heads will continually wear on the valve guides eventually leading to excess oil consumption. I ve heard accounts of a quart every couple of hundred miles. There may be superior valve guide material eg. tin bronze that have better wear characteristics that combat the failure.
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Someone chime in if I'm overstepping my knowledge, but the geometry of those heads will continually wear on the valve guides eventually leading to excess oil consumption. I ve heard accounts of a quart every couple of hundred miles. There may be superior valve guide material eg. tin bronze that have better wear characteristics that combat the failure.
That is why you look at your valvetrain geometry and address any issues, prior to it hammering on it lol
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hmmmm...well i can get a set for 500$ with ford racing 1.6's..these heads are stud mount also...ive heard and seen the motor they are on..no valvetrain noise at all..but for some reason when he used synthetic oil it smoked out the exhaust?..his car runs great and no motor problems at all..im damn near gonna cash out..but dont wanna buy a lemon
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if it's still the double valve springs you might want to swap them depending on what cam/rocker ratio
jus a tfs1 1ith 1.6's
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I remember reading up on the trickflow before I got mine and recall that the valve geometry would be off if you used other brand rockers on the heads. Kinda smart on trickflow's part since they keep you to their brand. Their roller rockers are around the same price anyway. I'd sell the ford ones and pick up a set of the TFS 1.6's.
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I haven't had any problems with mine! They are the old ones without trickflow on the head. But granted mine when put on had zero miles and only have 5 to 8,000 miles now. I'm running some old school erson 1.6's with a n41 basically a f cam.
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ttt you guys think i should buy??..they flow just the same as some newer twisted wedge heads??..
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Originally posted by Secnd2nun64:
I remember reading up on the trickflow before I got mine and recall that the valve geometry would be off if you used other brand rockers on the heads. Kinda smart on trickflow's part since they keep you to their brand. Their roller rockers are around the same price anyway. I'd sell the ford ones and pick up a set of the TFS 1.6's.
ive heard they reccomended ford racing 1.6's for those heads..
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Originally posted by 707notchback jaejae:
ttt you guys think i should buy??..they flow just the same as some newer twisted wedge heads??..
are they player priced?
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Originally posted by 707notchback jaejae:
ttt you guys think i should buy??..they flow just the same as some newer twisted wedge heads??..
are they player priced?
500$ with ford 1.6's..they are still on the motor i see drive everyday....no valvetrain noise..motor is stout..but did have a smoking problem when he used to thin of an oil or synthetic..i forget which..but yea what do you think dan?
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and they have bronze guides in them already..
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Originally posted by 707notchback jaejae:
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Originally posted by turbo50:
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Originally posted by 707notchback jaejae:
ttt you guys think i should buy??..they flow just the same as some newer twisted wedge heads??..
are they player priced?
500$ with ford 1.6's..they are still on the motor i see drive everyday....no valvetrain noise..motor is stout..but did have a smoking problem when he used to thin of an oil or synthetic..i forget which..but yea what do you think dan?
Oh no, you dont want those...no..not at all.......but uh.....can I have his number?..... Just wanna ask him something.....lol
Dude, you cant buy bare heads and rockers for that....youd be a fool to pass on them.
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Originally posted by turbo50:
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Originally posted by 707notchback jaejae:
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Originally posted by turbo50:
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Originally posted by 707notchback jaejae:
ttt you guys think i should buy??..they flow just the same as some newer twisted wedge heads??..
are they player priced?
500$ with ford 1.6's..they are still on the motor i see drive everyday....no valvetrain noise..motor is stout..but did have a smoking problem when he used to thin of an oil or synthetic..i forget which..but yea what do you think dan?
Oh no, you dont want those...no..not at all.......but uh.....can I have his number?..... Just wanna ask him something.....lol
Dude, you cant buy bare heads and rockers for that....youd be a fool to pass on them.
lol sure its 1-235-5678 ![[Razz]](tongue.gif) ..thanks dan..im jus gonna get them..fuggg ittttt ![[patriot]](graemlins/patriot.gif) ..i appreciate the info..im gonna thread jack myself..hows the leg doing?..
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Originally posted by 707notchback jaejae:
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Originally posted by turbo50:
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Originally posted by 707notchback jaejae:
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Originally posted by turbo50:
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Originally posted by 707notchback jaejae:
ttt you guys think i should buy??..they flow just the same as some newer twisted wedge heads??..
are they player priced?
500$ with ford 1.6's..they are still on the motor i see drive everyday....no valvetrain noise..motor is stout..but did have a smoking problem when he used to thin of an oil or synthetic..i forget which..but yea what do you think dan?
Oh no, you dont want those...no..not at all.......but uh.....can I have his number?..... Just wanna ask him something.....lol
Dude, you cant buy bare heads and rockers for that....youd be a fool to pass on them.
lol sure its 1-235-5678 ..thanks dan..im jus gonna get them..fuggg ittttt ..i appreciate the info..im gonna thread jack myself..hows the leg doing?..
I dont know one day its doin ok and the next day it swells up like a balloon or I fall in the garage but what the fuck am I gonna do?
I carry a nice steel cane now so Im actually tougher than I was before the accident cuz if I hit someone with this fucker they are goin down! LOL.
Seriously tho, I cant wait to get my knee put all the way back together so I can walk without the cane.
NOW BUY THOSE HEADS!!! Or Imma call that number...what was it again...1-234-567-????
Dan
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Originally posted by 707notchback jaejae:
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Originally posted by turbo50:
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Originally posted by 707notchback jaejae:
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Originally posted by turbo50:
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Originally posted by 707notchback jaejae:
ttt you guys think i should buy??..they flow just the same as some newer twisted wedge heads??..
are they player priced?
500$ with ford 1.6's..they are still on the motor i see drive everyday....no valvetrain noise..motor is stout..but did have a smoking problem when he used to thin of an oil or synthetic..i forget which..but yea what do you think dan?
Oh no, you dont want those...no..not at all.......but uh.....can I have his number?..... Just wanna ask him something.....lol
Dude, you cant buy bare heads and rockers for that....youd be a fool to pass on them.
lol sure its 1-235-5678 ..thanks dan..im jus gonna get them..fuggg ittttt ..i appreciate the info..im gonna thread jack myself..hows the leg doing?..
I dont know one day its doin ok and the next day it swells up like a balloon or I fall in the garage but what the fuck am I gonna do?
I carry a nice steel cane now so Im actually tougher than I was before the accident cuz if I hit someone with this fucker they are goin down! LOL.
Seriously tho, I cant wait to get my knee put all the way back together so I can walk without the cane.
NOW BUY THOSE HEADS!!! Or Imma call that number...what was it again...1-234-567-????
Dan
damn dude...hope you get better..my aunt hs a bad knee to..the cartilage between her kneecap is gone..but she is to young for a knee replacement so her health insurance is being gay about that..im buyin the heads tho..
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