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turbo50
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Anyone know what year was the first year for the 351 roller motor??
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JohnB
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Late 91-early 92. Pretty easy to drill-tap-retrofit later model non-roller blocks, as long as you have the right tools...and get it right the first time.
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turbo50
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arent there oiling issues when you run a roller tappet (stock ford) in a non roller block?
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JohnB
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Nope, as the later-model 351w have the longer lifter bores.
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turbo50
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hmmm didnt know that.
i have bought a keith craft custom ground 351 roller retro cam and it came with lifters, pushrods and rocker arms.
the lifters are modified ford roller motor lifters and I thought it was for oiling purposes for the non roller block (408 R block) guess not....
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rickm347
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so you can have a roller windsor fairly easy then?? --rick
So a non roller windsor crank would work in a roller windsor then??
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turbo50
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yeah the cranks are all the same
i guess on 351 the lifter bores are taller (late model non roller) to accomodate...from what JohnB is saying...so that is cool.
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JohnB
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When I say later, I mean WAY later (87ish) blocks. Modifying stock lifters? Maybe to use with regular vs. retro-fit pushrods...the oiling holes are in the same place no matter what. Lifter bore determines whether or not you have to run different lifters.
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So a non roller windsor crank would work in a roller windsor then??
No. One is a two-piece rear main, the later models are one piece.
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turbo50
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Originally posted by JohnB:
When I say later, I mean WAY later (87ish) blocks. Modifying stock lifters? Maybe to use with regular vs. retro-fit pushrods...the oiling holes are in the same place no matter what. Lifter bore determines whether or not you have to run different lifters.
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So a non roller windsor crank would work in a roller windsor then??
No. One is a two-piece rear main, the later models are one piece.
I think you are right because the papers say something about the plunger being down 55 thousands or something.
im gonna sell this all...not worth the headache and the what if.
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what all are you gonna sell??
John-i think im coming across a roller 351 this weekend (1993) and i also have a 92 351 complete from an F150 (1992). is the f150 roller?? i dont wanna disassemble it because i might sell the whole thing this weekend thanks again --rick
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turbo50
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retro roller cam for 351 comp cams custom grind from keith craft
roller lifters and hardened pushrods for the 351
they all came in a 408 stroker with ford racing block (r block) from keith craft
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were you looking for a block to put that all in?? how much were you looking to get for that stuff if you end up not wanting it?? thanks --rick
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Im still up in the air about it all...ill let you know.
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MUSTTANGUY
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First year for roller cam 351 was late 1993
You can tell if you have a roller block by the F4 part number cast into the block right above the starter
The earlier (89-early93)NON roller blocks will have an E9 casting number
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very good piece of info thanks --rick
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Originally posted by rickm347:
John-i think im coming across a roller 351 this weekend (1993) and i also have a 92 351 complete from an F150 (1992). is the f150 roller?? i dont wanna disassemble it because i might sell the whole thing this weekend thanks again --rick
Yes, both should be roller-style blocks.
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quote:
Originally posted by Musttanguy:
First year for roller cam 351 was late 1993
You can tell if you have a roller block by the F4 part number cast into the block right above the starter
The earlier (89-early93)NON roller blocks will have an E9 casting number
Yeah I just checked and it was an E9. the whole engine is from a 92.
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