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ok so im wondering if i should do a cam swap with my non pi heads on my 98gt with a supercharger or just put a supercharger. the mod list is 373, c&l plenum, pi intake, pro product 75mm, bbk shorty headers, off road h pipe. is it worth doing a cam swap with the non pi heads? i dont want to swap to pi heads. not sure its worth time/money to put cams in npi heads. please help.....
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IMO, put a Charger on it as is...it's not worth it for cams, PI's, and whatnot.

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ok thanks johnb. do you think the vortech setup is the best? what about the aftercooler. is it worth the money
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+1 to johnB

just get the blower......p1sc 8lbs procharger kit [worship] .....easy high 11's [Big Grin]

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Vortech or the ProCharger system. I've done numerous installs of both, not to mention I've had both systems on my own cars. Can't beat the bang for the buck!!

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yeah i dont know which of those two i want. i heard procharger is almost over kill. will i be a 12 second car with either setup?
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If it isn't, you're driving it wrong. Every car I've put together has been at least a 11.95 or better.

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ok i would love for my car to be under 12s but i havent seen many non pi stangs with the setup i want and convert goin that fast. ill take your word for it tho if you have built one
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You'd be close, even with a vert. But yes, 12's definitely!

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id say def procharger, but thats just me, ya should be in the high 11's or if anything really low 12..... [patriot]

he john just for future reference, how much to install a procharger p1sc on my 94 cobra???

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Procharger's are nice....but pricey.


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pm replied....thanks...

ya they are pricy....i can get one for like $3600-$3800 for my car.....

but well worth it.... so i've heard.....self contained and comes with intercooler so its safer to run a lil higher boost, just safer period...

u think 11# will be ok on my car??

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8psi (non-intercooled), 11 psi intercooled is about the limit, IMO, on a stock bottom end.

Check Craigslist, there are setups all the time for cheap.

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Originally posted by JohnB:
8psi (non-intercooled), 11 psi intercooled is about the limit, IMO, on a stock bottom end.

Check Craigslist, there are setups all the time for cheap.

ya of course im gettin the intercooled one....so at 11 psi i'll be ok?

what u think i can be makin to the wheels? i have a E303 cam too...and a cai....h-pipe no cats....remember to i have 24 #ers stock.....

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Well, if we're talkin' a small block, you can do 12-13 and be ok...with the right tune. You can scratch the 24's and the CAI, they won't jive. With 10-12 PSI, 42's, and a safe tune, you should be around 410-415 rwhp. The induction system (H/C/I) will be the only thing holding you back from bigger numbers.

To give you a idea, I ran a stock bottom-end 302 with a TFS 1 cam, Edelbrock heads and intake, and 42's...all with 11 psi and turned 440+ rwhp. That was a SQ-trim.

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ya small block, stock 302 94 cobra motor.....ya ur right cold air will no longer be used, i forgot.....so 24#'s will not work at 11 psi?? the kit says i dont have to change anything....

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You could run a FMU and take your chances, but I wouldn't. You can get a set of used 42's and a MAF for change...it's worth the piece of mind.

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fmu?

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FMU = fuel management unit. It basically holds fuel line pressure under boost conditions so injectors don't run dry. Problem is, it's a vaccum diaphram...and when it fails, you won't know until it's too late.

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Fuel Management Unit
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oh ok...i knew that...lol

um so 10-12psi.....i would need 42#s, maf, retune.....what else?

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Trick flow heads
T rex cam

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new head gaskets would be nice.maybe studs too while your there
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im coo off that...i dont wanna have to take all that shit off, plus im not doin it myself, ima have someone else do all that like johnB.....

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Lq9 swap
102 fast intake
Trick flow heads
T rex cam

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