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Topic: 300 rwhp recipe needed
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uh0h50
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Well, I kick myself in the ass for even considering a V6 Mustang.. I'm keeping the notch..
Currently, my 92 auto coupe has 165,xxx miles on a stock block. I want to find another stock low-mileage block to have it prepped and put in new rings and the such.. From there... i need help..
what are good lower/upper intakes? should i use stock heads that have been ported or find some gt-40s (if so, what kind?) a good cam? pistons? good stroker kits available out there? anything you guys can tell me to watch out for or good items to use to build up a good motor. Good places here in the east bay that prep blocks?
--Going to be a daily driven car..
--I'm looking to stay smog legal though..
--I'm going to lose the a/c system.. put the car on a small diet..
--Move battery to trunk..
--exhaust is already taken care of.. (bbk headers, catted x-pipe, soon getting spintechs or borla)
--going to stay n/a .. no power adders at all..
--keepin the stock aod for a couple more months, but will soon convert to a 5speed// 5-speed swap..
--retain a stock suspension, except for the addition of 4 cylinder springs and control arms..
thanks for the help... mike ![[burnout]](graemlins/burnout.gif)
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get tha trick flow track heat kit... ![[worship]](graemlins/worship.gif) should get u round 300rwhp i think..
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AJBlackGT
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Yeah your going to need good heads to do it. Ported stock heads or gt40s will most likely not get there without a lot of porting. The trackheat kit is good and will put you pretty close to 300rwhp. 24lb injectors, AFPR, you probably want around 10-10.5:1 compression to help you get there also. Theres a bunch of ways to do it, and it also depends on your budget.
Good choice on keeping the notch though...its hard to find them as clean as yours, and you'll have a lot more fun with it once you put h/c/i on.
PM me if you want to talk more
Drew
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90 Notch
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uh0h50
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yeah i've seen the trick flow set-up, but i dont know if it's smog lega?
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Originally posted by uh0h50:
yeah i've seen the trick flow set-up, but i dont know if it's smog lega?
the street heat kit is..
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uh0h50
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thanks.. i'll look into this.. should a stock block hold up pretty good for a daily driver with the trick flow set up?
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uh0h50
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i thought i saw in a summit magazine where they had a special kit that included the trickflow upper/lower and a lot of other misc. items...
are you guys only talking about the trickflow street heat upper and lower intakes only? or do they sell kits that include that and heads and cam? sorry for the confusion
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i dnt see why not...i think it all depends on how u take care/treat it..
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Originally posted by uh0h50:
i thought i saw in a summit magazine where they had a special kit that included the trickflow upper/lower and a lot of other misc. items...
are you guys only talking about the trickflow street heat upper and lower intakes only? or do they sell kits that include that and heads and cam? sorry for the confusion
its all good they sell whole kits...from heads to intake to timing chain gaskets....it cose me round i think 2200 for everything..
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uh0h50
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89fakesnake, did u purchase the track heat or street heat kit? because i cant seem to find a street heat kit..?
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89fakesnake, did u purchase the track heat or street heat kit? because i cant seem to find a street heat kit..?
street i belive..try part number tfs-k514-350-370
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Originally posted by uh0h50:
89fakesnake, did u purchase the track heat or street heat kit? because i cant seem to find a street heat kit..?
street i belive..try part number tfs-k514-350-370
yep thas it..go to summit and type it in and ull get it
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A stock block will be perfectly fine. It might be tough to do it and have CARB numbers for everything if thats the part of smog your worried about. I would just build it to pass on the sniffer and then find a smog place that doesnt trip off the visual stuff. My car won't pass all the visual stuff, but it passes no problem on the machine.
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uh0h50
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found it.. says kit does not include lifters.. what lifters did you use with the setup?
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Stock FRPP replacement lifters...
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went wit tha ford motorsport ones..for tha 1.6 rockers
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Dont forget a throttlebody and bigger mass air meter, and all the gaskets and bolts and stuff
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Dont forget a throttlebody and bigger mass air meter, and all the gaskets and bolts and stuff
yep..thas wha cafords is good for..haha
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uh0h50
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Well after further thought and discussion with 89fakesnake, I'm NOW leaning towards a 302 crate engine from Ford Racing. Seems more practical, zero miles on a brand new block for only a lil over 3g and guarunteed to hold up for a long time as opposed to a used block with x miles on it with bolt ons. All I would have to do is buy the upper and lower intakes, distributor.. etc... But what I don't understand about purchasing the engine is why they tell you that it needs a fox body conversion kit to drop it in? How much would that kit be? Any inputs on my decisions? thanks
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uh0h50
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nevermind, found the conversion kit... but here's the crate engine i'm referring to.. crate engine your thoughts/inputs on my decision making?
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uh0h50
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link didnt work... try here.. and if this one doesnt work, just go to the ford racing site.. part number M-6007-B50... here
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how is the trick flow kit smog legal if neither tf cams are smog legal? correct me if im wrong?
all you need is a Ed curtis custom cam and thumper stock ported heads with a Tmoss ported stock intake, you wont spend no more than 1,000.
my .02 cents. ![[patriot]](graemlins/patriot.gif)
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that will get you close if not 300 to the wheels.
good bang for the buck combo.
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stock heads? stroker kits? ![[Confused]](confused.gif)
i would get a freshened up stock shortblock with either the trickflow kit or afr 165's with a 2031 cam (very mild) and edelbrock intake
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Originally posted by KRZ89FOBRA:
how is the trick flow kit smog legal if neither tf cams are smog legal? correct me if im wrong?
all you need is a Ed curtis custom cam and thumper stock ported heads with a Tmoss ported stock intake, you wont spend no more than 1,000.
my .02 cents.
the trickflow stage 1 cam will pass smog even though it is not carb approved. it is very similar to the e cam and is cheaper because lack of certification.
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