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Coyoteswapfox92
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[ March 17, 2004, 02:50 PM: Message edited by: Black94 5.0 ]
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DropTopFox
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holy fucking shit blower and N20 ![[Eek!]](eek.gif) Safest way and I think the only way you should think about going is the NOSzle kit. I swear to god if you run a nitrous blower combo on DOHC motor you're my fucking Hero ![[worship]](graemlins/worship.gif) ![[patriot]](graemlins/patriot.gif)
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Coyoteswapfox92
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lol I have spent soooooo much money on the motor I dont think it will blow. When I get it installed I will take it to Apex for the tune. HCI Motorsports says my car will handle 15psi from the blower/aftercooler and a 100 shoot of N20 no problem. I got big balls and after I'm done I'll probaly have empty pockets. ![[Big Grin]](biggrin.gif)
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93PONY
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Aside from small 25-50 shots used to cool the intake air-charge I've not seen any street setup successfully use nitrous on a boosted motor.
Talk about a tuning challange! LOL
If you do it, go with a small shot aimed at cooling the aircharge. Typically on a boosted motor you'll get near twice the power out of N2O vs an N/A motor.
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Coyoteswapfox92
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Hey Shaun will I need the N20 if i have the aftercooler then? doesnt that cool the air enough? ![[Confused]](confused.gif)
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93PONY
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Water to air intercoolers are very efficient...however, it's my opinion that the Vortec 'Aftercooler' is on the small side for cooling the airflow.
Running ice-water in the tank at the track will help quite a bit. I wouldn't run any antifreeze at all....ever.
We'll talk when you come into the shop next. ![[Wink]](wink.gif)
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BlackNGold
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Originally posted by 93PONY:
I wouldn't run any antifreeze at all....ever.
Why?...Please explain...
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mtbaughs
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In my opinion running antifreeze can be an issue on a track. Mainly if the system has a leak. Instead of shuting down a track to clean it up your just waiting for water to dry. Most racing at least road racing also requires no anti freeze in the cooling system as well for this reason.
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DropTopFox
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quote:
Originally posted by mtbaughs:
In my opinion running antifreeze can be an issue on a track. Mainly if the system has a leak. Instead of shuting down a track to clean it up your just waiting for water to dry. Most racing at least road racing also requires no anti freeze in the cooling system as well for this reason.
however they do allow redline water wetter along with water
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93PONY
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Anti-freeze is just that.... It does nothing for cooling. In fact, it hinders the cooling ability of water. It simply lowers the freezing point of water.
Straight water transfers heat faster then just about anything you can put in your motor.
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BlackNGold
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quote:
Originally posted by 93PONY:
Anti-freeze is just that.... It does nothing for cooling. In fact, it hinders the cooling ability of water. It simply lowers the freezing point of water.
Straight water transfers heat faster then just about anything you can put in your motor.
Water is the essential heat transfer fluid but, by itself, can be very corrosive to the cooling system....Coolant protects the engine components against corrosion...Coolant also lubricates the pumps, and lowers the risk of "boil over"....
I would run 75% water and 25% coolant in an Aftercooler for a daily or even weekend driver...I open tracked my car at Sears Point before and I had to use only Water Wetter and water....Afer about a month my water got really dirty and I decided to flush it and use 50-50 water and coolant...
So, if you want to only use Water for ultimate heat tranfer, but run the risk of breaking your cooling components and possibly boiling over, go right ahead...
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Pure distilled water, Redline water-wetter and a rust inhibitor (something like Prestone Anti-rust)...and you'll have zero cooling problems, if everything is set up correctly.
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BlackNGold
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quote:
Originally posted by Black94 5.0:
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Originally posted by 93PONY:
Anti-freeze is just that.... It does nothing for cooling. In fact, it hinders the cooling ability of water. It simply lowers the freezing point of water.
Straight water transfers heat faster then just about anything you can put in your motor.
Water is the essential heat transfer fluid but, by itself, can be very corrosive to the cooling system....Coolant protects the engine components against corrosion...Coolant also lubricates the pumps, and lowers the risk of "boil over"....
I would run 75% water and 25% coolant in an Aftercooler for a daily or even weekend driver...I open tracked my car at Sears Point before and I had to use only Water Wetter and water....Afer about a month my water got really dirty and I decided to flush it and use 50-50 water and coolant...
So, if you want to only use Water for ultimate heat tranfer, but run the risk of breaking your cooling components, runsting and possibly boiling over, go right ahead...
EDIT~Just called Vortech and they told me the same exact thing that I just posted...lol...75% water and 25% coolant....
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DropTopFox
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I thought Water Wetter was supposed to keep the water from corroding the cooling componenets. I run anti-freeze, water and water wetter and have no cooling problems so I don't know enough in this area but I thought water wetter prevented corrosion
P.S. I like how this post said delete a couple days ago and it's still going. AHHHHHHHH...The passion of Tech Talk ![[Whoo Whooooo!]](graemlins/woowoo.gif)
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93PONY
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Originally posted by JohnB:
Pure distilled water, Redline water-wetter and a rust inhibitor (something like Prestone Anti-rust)...and you'll have zero cooling problems, if everything is set up correctly.
This is the correct setup for maximum heat transfer without much worry about corosion. Just don't take the car up to Tahoe for the night in January! LOL
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