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Topic: AFR 205 or Victor Jr ported by Fox Lake?
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Pcsal
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so lets see some opinions. what would you guys prefer AFR 205 Ported by angie at Dave Machine shope with Jessel shaft mount rockers or Victor Jr Ported by fox lake with T&D Shaft mount rocker&
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Dave's Machine Shop ftw. ![[patriot]](graemlins/patriot.gif) even though foxlake gets down as well.
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racsirx
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Which one has better flow numbers?
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afr sappose to be a better flowing head from the research ive done
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Originally posted by racsirx:
Which one has better flow numbers?
do not have flow numbers on the AFR
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Personal preference, AFR.
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racsirx
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Originally posted by Pcsal:
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Originally posted by racsirx:
Which one has better flow numbers?
do not have flow numbers on the AFR
I would flow them to see which flows better after the port work
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Originally posted by racsirx:
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Originally posted by Pcsal:
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Originally posted by racsirx:
Which one has better flow numbers?
do not have flow numbers on the AFR
I would flow them to see which flows better after the port work
Yeah im in the process of making that happen
victor jr
Intake Port Volume = 215cc
Combustion Chamber Volume = 65cc
Valve Sizes = 2.055 Int, 1.600 Exh
Max Flow Int. - 308cfm @ .700"
Max Flow Exh. = 230cfm @ .700"
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for your goals for this car...
the Victor Jr's will be more than enough...
the AFR's will outflow them but at this point, what is it worth swapping them....
just keep your current plans of changing the pulley setup and revving out to 7k.
the car is on the verge of not hooking as is....
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for your goals for this car...
the Victor Jr's will be more than enough...
the AFR's will outflow them but at this point, what is it worth swapping them....
just keep your current plans of changing the pulley setup and revving out to 7k.
the car is on the verge of not hooking as is....
Yeah I get that BUT the HEADERS SUCK from accufab they will be a total pain in the ass for the life of the car. We have to relocated the oil dipstick because THE HEADERS SUCK and we have to tear it back down anyhow due to the oil leak from the MLS gaskets so I was just pondering and ordering new headers lol
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Originally posted by Pcsal:
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Originally posted by racsirx:
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Originally posted by Pcsal:
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Originally posted by racsirx:
Which one has better flow numbers?
do not have flow numbers on the AFR
I would flow them to see which flows better after the port work
Yeah im in the process of making that happen
victor jr
Intake Port Volume = 215cc
Combustion Chamber Volume = 65cc
Valve Sizes = 2.055 Int, 1.600 Exh
Max Flow Int. - 308cfm @ .700"
Max Flow Exh. = 230cfm @ .700"
Those exhaust numbers look really good... actually a couple CFM better than my Trickflow R heads. The intake numbers look a little soft. Mine flow that at .500 lift. Must be the larger diameter valve.
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I thought those victor jr numbers looked low for being ported or am I missing something? My TFS twisted wedge 170 heads ported by TEA flow 300@500 intake, 217@500 exhaust
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If I remember right arvin351 had have his AFR'S valve spring pockets machined so could run some special springs.
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Originally posted by racsirx:
I thought those victor jr numbers looked low for being ported or am I missing something? My TFS twisted wedge 170 heads ported by TEA flow 300@500 intake, 217@500 exhaust
your 170s flow the same as the 205s from TEA????? did they give you a flow sheet for that?
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Originally posted by CornOil_&_Boost:
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Originally posted by racsirx:
I thought those victor jr numbers looked low for being ported or am I missing something? My TFS twisted wedge 170 heads ported by TEA flow 300@500 intake, 217@500 exhaust
your 170s flow the same as the 205s from TEA????? did they give you a flow sheet for that?
Yes they did, this was before the tfs 205 heads came out
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Angie knows her shit! DEMFTW!
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Originally posted by CornOil_&_Boost:
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Originally posted by racsirx:
I thought those victor jr numbers looked low for being ported or am I missing something? My TFS twisted wedge 170 heads ported by TEA flow 300@500 intake, 217@500 exhaust
your 170s flow the same as the 205s from TEA????? did they give you a flow sheet for that?
Yes they did, this was before the tfs 205 heads came out
Nice
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Originally posted by racsirx:
I thought those victor jr numbers looked low for being ported or am I missing something? My TFS twisted wedge 170 heads ported by TEA flow 300@500 intake, 217@500 exhaust
Oh yeah? Well my TFS R heads flow 308@500 intake and 218@500 exhaust! My heads are way better than your heads, Lee!
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I know there not mentioned but what about Jon kasse p-38 heads flow 355@.750 intake and 241@.750 on the exuast bad ass heads
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I know there not mentioned but what about Jon kasse p-38 heads flow 355@.750 intake and 241@.750 on the exuast bad ass heads
Yeah but that's at .750 right the one they are talking about are @ .500
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Originally posted by iceman302:
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Originally posted by racsirx:
I thought those victor jr numbers looked low for being ported or am I missing something? My TFS twisted wedge 170 heads ported by TEA flow 300@500 intake, 217@500 exhaust
Oh yeah? Well my TFS R heads flow 308@500 intake and 218@500 exhaust! My heads are way better than your heads, Lee!
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Lol, I will trade you, you don't need those
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@500 the p-38 are at 328 intake and 222 exuast
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@500 the p-38 are at 328 intake and 222 exuast
To see benefit of those flow numbers you would need a lot of cubic inches with high compression or a motor with a big power adder, what are you building?
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Im building a dart 427 Windsor with 13:1 solid roller with 150-200 shot with the p-38 heads plus they are canted valve which doesn't but as much stress on the cylinder walls
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Im building a dart 427 Windsor with 13:1 solid roller with 150-200 shot with the p-38 heads plus they are canted valve which doesn't but as much stress on the cylinder walls
Sounds like what I'm building... but mine is lower compression and (potentially) a bigger shot.
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