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Topic: Buy your coffee with cash? You might be a terrorist....
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Farrell
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I never use my laptop in a starbucks, but this is scary crap when you combine it with the recent legislation allowing the government to hold US citizens indefinitely without representation or charges.... Welcome to communist America...
They who can give up essential liberty to obtain a little temporary safety, deserve neither liberty nor safety - Benjamin Franklin
http://www.boilingfrogspost.com/2012/02/06/fbi-enlists-internet-cafe-owners-to-spy-on-customers-2/
The CAT program, funded by the State and Local Anti-Terrorism Training program (SLATT) is described as a “tool to engage members of the local community in the fight against terrorism.” The program interprets “local community” to mean businesses, and only registered businesses may access the program’s flyers listing “potential indicators” of terrorist activity.
Each flyer is designed for a particular kind of business. For example, this list was prepared for owners of internet cafes. Unquestionably, someone planning a terrorist attack has engaged in one or more of the “suspicious” activities on that list. But so, too, have most of the estimated 289 million computer users in this country.
The government’s flyer designates people as suspicious if they “always pay cash” at an internet café. That’s a jaw-dropping assumption considering that we’re talking about businesses that sell $2 cups of joe, not $600 airline tickets. Good luck paying with a credit card for a purchase under $10.
Evidence that one has a “residential based internet provider” (such as Comcast or AOL) is another pretext for government snooping. If your home internet connection is unreliable, if you are on travel, or if you simply relish a good cup of coffee with your internet browsing, you run the risk of acquiring an FBI file. Trying to shield personal information on your computer screen from the prying eyes of others will mark you as a potential terrorist, also.
It is officially creepy to use a café hotspot to download “photos, maps or diagrams” of a stadium, metro rail stop, or any “populated locations.” To be safe, confine your travel plans to the Alaskan tundra. And, should there be another terrorist attack, do not demonstrate any “preoccupation with press coverage” of the attack. Just move along–nothing to see here.
If you engage in these or any other “suspicious” activities listed on CAT flyers, businesses are encouraged to “gather information” about you, including “license plates, vehicle description, names used, languages spoken, ethnicity, etc.” At least 25 CAT flyers, collected by Public Intelligence, are known to exist.
The CAT list of “suspicious” internet café activities suggests appalling ignorance of the ways ordinary Americans use computers. Those who are computerless can become surveillance targets, too, if they own guns or precious metals, store a seven-day supply of food, buy a flashlight, believe in conspiracies or participate in peaceful demonstrations.
The government’s paranoia would be laughable were it not for the potential consequences for citizens who find themselves in its crosshairs. Under the 2012 National Defense Authorization Act, the government may detain indefinitely any terrorism suspects–including U.S. citizens. And, since the government has created pretexts for arresting virtually anyone, no one is safe.
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Stang66
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yea, it sucks that this country has gone to shit, mayb obama shouldn't get re-elected, especially with biden on his side since he's the one pushing for internet censorship and what not
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Farrell
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I'm not an Obama supporter at all, but i can admit that George Bush started things in this direction with his 9/11 legislation... we've been doing this with non us citizens for a while now, Obama just took it to the next level. Its a slippery slope....
Our political choices are a joke right now, most of the people running are idiots... Id love to vote for someone new in office, but I probably just wont vote as its a matter of who will screw it up the least at this point...
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Stang66
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true that, idk i haven't even registered to become a voter yet since im only 18, im not big in politics but i think im going to have to do my research on upcoming candidates, its sad obama is more of a "hollywood" president then anything else, being the first black president must of clouded his thoughts and decisions
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Farrell
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Originally posted by Stang66:
true that, idk i haven't even registered to become a voter yet since im only 18, im not big in politics but i think im going to have to do my research on upcoming candidates, its sad obama is more of a "hollywood" president then anything else, being the first black president must of clouded his thoughts and decisions
I think a lot of his mistakes were around a plain lack of experience. He went into it trying to please everyone, but has in turned pleased no-one and has not kept a single promise (its debatable whether they were realistic to begin with). he meant well with other things, but was blocked by the GOP in the house and senate.. i don't think anyone would have suddenly brought the US back to life, but we may not have accumulated quite so much dept and lost quite so many rights with a different person in office. I was going to vote for McCain, but could not bring myself to vote for that fucking idiot Sarah Pallen as part of the package....... thank god she never made it into office.
To get back on topic though, I'm glad to hear this is stuff that interest you at 18. To many of your and my generation are worried about the 1% and SOPA.. Everyone protests when they want to censor the internet, but i didn't see a single protest when the government effectively took away our right to do process. If you are a "terrorist" then they dont even need to read you your miranda rights as they dont even apply. you do not have the right to a lawyer.... or even to be charged within 24 hours...
[ February 07, 2012, 06:25 PM: Message edited by: Farrell ]
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coupedup
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That was a good read
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Jaejae5.0
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You've just been labeled for spreading this type of info..welcome to the crew ![[Wink]](wink.gif)
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Originally posted by Jaejae5.0:
You've just been labeled for spreading this type of info..welcome to the crew
I was wondering when you would pop into this thread with your tinfoil hat on ![[Big Grin]](biggrin.gif)
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Originally posted by Farrell:
I'm not an Obama supporter at all, but i can admit that George Bush started things in this direction with his 9/11 legislation... we've been doing this with non us citizens for a while now, Obama just took it to the next level. Its a slippery slope....
Our political choices are a joke right now, most of the people running are idiots... Id love to vote for someone new in office, but I probably just wont vote as its a matter of who will screw it up the least at this point...
+1
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Originally posted by DLo:
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Originally posted by Jaejae5.0:
You've just been labeled for spreading this type of info..welcome to the crew
I was wondering when you would pop into this thread with your tinfoil hat on
Tinfoil hat at home..hard hat at work..haha
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Farrell
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I leave the tinfoil hat safely at home, next to the ammo stockpile
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