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http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20091011/ap_on_go_ca_st_pe/us_afghanistan_weapons_failures

I know some of you have or are serving too. Are they really that unreliable? The M16 has already been in service since Vietnam and they still have jamming problems?

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Posts: 1876 | From: Bay Area, CA | Registered: Oct 2005  |  :
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i hear they jam often i can belive we send our troops to war with such peice of crap...

i heard their useless in the desert.

that why i love my AK, shoots no matter what u do to it. you can fill it with sand/mud/water/rocks run it over with a tank it will still fire.

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the only time mine jams up is when i got a faulty mag. you just to make sure to keep it clean and dont use too much clp in the desert.

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I served before and the problem is that it constantly needs cleaning or you go to the "failure highway". Those guys need something more reliable. Although I hear that the "piston actuated bolt carrier group" can yield better reliability.

If I was outhere I would buy that system.

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Bottom line the M4 is adequate but not the best for dirty/dusty environments.

If you clean it religiously after every firing most guns won't fail but 1,000+ rounds crouched over a sand dune is a different story.

Shit after I fired my friends M4 after about 1,000+ rounds the 14" barrel was so hot the vertical grip burnt my hands. So gloves are a must!

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Grab one of those ak47 off one of the terrist and call it a day

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quote:
Originally posted by fastertoys1:
i hear they jam often i can belive we send our troops to war with such peice of crap...

i heard their useless in the desert.

that why i love my AK, shoots no matter what u do to it. you can fill it with sand/mud/water/rocks run it over with a tank it will still fire.

The AK47's are like Glocks, very reliable. And my AR15 only jams when I put low quality ammo.

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Originally posted by 50Reasons:
Grab one of those ak47 off one of the terrist and call it a day

LOL I was going to say the same thing!

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That's why you build a gas piston upper and have a super reliable rifle that's more acurate then an AK

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Keep it lubed up and it won't jam. Its not as reliable in desert combat but still works. My brother kept a condom over the front of his barrel in afghanistan.

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Ruger 556 for the win, so far that thing is an amazing gun and is piston assisted

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quote:
Originally posted by WildFire532FB:
Keep it lubed up and it won't jam. Its not as reliable in desert combat but still works. My brother kept a condom over the front of his barrel in afghanistan.

true, but you gotta be careful about over-lubing it. In Iraq, I met quite a few who'd pour oil all over their bolt, only to have it collect the iraqi sand like it was a sticky piece of fly paper

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quote:
Originally posted by NavidR:
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Originally posted by 50Reasons:
Grab one of those ak47 off one of the terrist and call it a day

LOL I was going to say the same thing!
The problem with AKs is accuracy sucks balls

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