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N8
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Not sure if you guys are following this, but I think it is huge. Sotomayor, is one step away from being on the high court.
http://www.cnn.com/2009/POLITICS/07/13/sotomayor.hearing/
What I found funny is one of here opponents comments. Mind you this dude was on Bush's cabinet. But he basically said something to the tune of "Just because she graduated from a Ivy league school doesn't mean she is smart, hell I know people that graduated from an Ivy league school and are not smart".
Anyway, hopefully this will not somehow start a political war. But I think this is huge for Hispanic folks and women.
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I've read a lot about her past, things she's said and decisions she's made as a judge the don't support what the Supreme Court is all about. I don't know enough about the situation to make an accurate comment but I'm sure that won't stop many others to spew their retarded view's on the subject.
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Originally posted by asskickn88:
I've read a lot about her past, things she's said and decisions she's made as a judge the don't support what the Supreme Court is all about. I don't know enough about the situation to make an accurate comment but I'm sure that won't stop many others to spew their retarded view's on the subject.
Yea me too, I am not to sure about what rulings she has made. I am only addressing the historic aspect of it. So hopefully this does not get ugly. At this point she is only nominated so if she is not the person for the job I am sure the oversight committee should catch it.
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I've been following this and I feel it would be a great win for the Hispanic culture. What its being portrayed in the media right now is typical politics. He said she said politics. I do also feel its empowering to young people of different ethnic backgrounds that anything is achievable. My biggest issues with minorities of multiple races is still living in the "the white man is keeping me down." This is a results of the Al Sharptons which are a plague.
My biggest concern is the youth of many underprivileged Hispanic families wont have an understanding of how important its to be on the supreme court. Without some form of education understanding the importance of the supreme court can easily be overlooked.
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Yea man, I really hate that "white man keeping me down" crutch. I know me for one, I go out of my way to teach my kids not to let that mentality hold them back. If anything let it fuel their desires. Also at the youth basketball camps I run, I kind of touch on these topics to the kids and translate it into basketball terms of anything can be done. I take every chance to teach kids anything is possible but you gotta have your head on straight. So to me stories like this, have far more reaching impact than just the political circles. It can be very empowering to the youth.
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She should not be confermed..... She's a racist. She ruled against the firemen that we were talking about on here( the one that everyone thought was fucked up ) she was againts the dude cause he was white and scored higher on the test then non white's . She has had many judgments overturned because she can't come up with a fair judgment in the firstplace.
All you gun guys..... Yeah she doesn't believe In the 2nd so the first chance they get to vote and do away with it, she's gonna try like hell to take away our guns.
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as with all judges they will have some questionable calls. The firefighter one I kinda understand a bit more where they were trying to go with their judgment. But in the end I think it was wrong to withdraw their test results.
But she has been part of some pretty good judgments as well.
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^ I just don't trust her judgement.... But then again, she already said she can make a judgment better then an old white man.
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It would have been good but she really really F'd up when she said those whitey comments. Your whole career can be jeopardized in one instance and she did it. Sorry but you must pay the price like any white man would and be ousted of her position. This is a bad example being shown here and shes going to get away with it but we'll just overlook this small little infraction because we got a quota to fill here just like police depts., fire stations school districts, court houses, etc. etc. etc. ![[BS flag]](graemlins/bs_flag.gif)
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I'm going to stay out of this one.... ![[patriot]](graemlins/patriot.gif)
At least attempt to...I'll say this much. Slowback67 I'm with ya bro...All this "it's going to make history" crap takes away from the real issues. Same thing happend with NObama
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^ I just don't trust her judgement.... But then again, she already said she can make a judgment better then an old white man.
I read the full story on this one...and yes its blatant racism.
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I'm maybe talking out of my ass since I don't know all the issues involved, but she's my peoples. Being born and raised in P.R., I know most of my people don't act or say such comments as she has done before.
I applaud her for being considered, but those comments, hell no!!! She should not be considered for the job.
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6 out of 7 ........ That's how many of her judgments have been overturned by the supreme court. This alone should be enough to tell you she is not able to do this job.
Anyone that votes for her should be voted out of office! I'd rather have someone who looks at lady justice for who she is....
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I think we shouldn't lower our standards just to break down a long standing barrier. Yes it would be great for the hispanic community for a hispanic judge to be appointed but at what cost? I think her decisions are controversial and she would change the face of the supreme court, and not in a good way.
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Originally posted by NiftyWhiteFifty:
I think we shouldn't lower our standards just to break down a long standing barrier. Yes it would be great for the hispanic community for a hispanic judge to be appointed but at what cost? I think her decisions are controversial and she would change the face of the supreme court, and not in a good way.
+1 couldn't have said it better
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Originally posted by NiftyWhiteFifty:
I think we shouldn't lower our standards just to break down a long standing barrier. Yes it would be great for the hispanic community for a hispanic judge to be appointed but at what cost? I think her decisions are controversial and she would change the face of the supreme court, and not in a good way.
+2....NObama is all about redistribution of wealth....very scary ![[Frown]](frown.gif) I think she supports his views, everyone he appoints basically does.. ![[Mad]](mad.gif)
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So basically you guys are saying that she should not be confirmed because she has views and judgements on specific issues that you do not agree with. On the supreme court there will more than just her and her opinions. I believe the fact that she has these controversial views and opinions make her more realistic. what is the purpose of having a supreme court with judges who all rule the same way. There should be a balance of opinions within the supreme court. I respect her for making the decision she made because they are her decisions. Do I agree with all of them? No. Do i think she will change the supreme court? No. No one judge can change a supreme court. Since a few of you believe she should not be confirmed......who do you guys think would be better? and So if there are other judges on the supreme court now who also don't agree with the 2nd amendment, believe strongly in affirmative action, and make controversial decisions should they be removed and replaced?
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So basically you guys are saying that she should not be confirmed because she has views and judgements on specific issues that you do not agree with. On the supreme court there will more than just her and her opinions. I believe the fact that she has these controversial views and opinions make her more realistic. what is the purpose of having a supreme court with judges who all rule the same way. There should be a balance of opinions within the supreme court. I respect her for making the decision she made because they are her decisions. Do I agree with all of them? No. Do i think she will change the supreme court? No. No one judge can change a supreme court. Since a few of you believe she should not be confirmed......who do you guys think would be better? and So if there are other judges on the supreme court now who also don't agree with the 2nd amendment, believe strongly in affirmative action, and make controversial decisions should they be removed and replaced?
I pretty much agree with this assessment and summary of how the supreme court works. And Supreme court nominations are no stranger to controversy. I believe she would have not gotten this far despite her speeches and rulings if there was no merit.
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Originally posted by NiftyWhiteFifty:
I think we shouldn't lower our standards just to break down a long standing barrier. Yes it would be great for the hispanic community for a hispanic judge to be appointed but at what cost? I think her decisions are controversial and she would change the face of the supreme court, and not in a good way.
+2....NObama is all about redistribution of wealth....very scary I think she supports his views, everyone he appoints basically does..
I hate to change the subject, but why everytime politics come up someone quickly brings in the anti-obama stuff....Do you guys honestly think that there was a better alternative?.....If so let hear it?....McCain and Palin?.....No, then who and how?......It is also funny that people are quick hate Obama, but are slow to take responsibility for who created this mess...Bush.
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Originally posted by rmadison007:
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Originally posted by 90FoX:
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Originally posted by NiftyWhiteFifty:
I think we shouldn't lower our standards just to break down a long standing barrier. Yes it would be great for the hispanic community for a hispanic judge to be appointed but at what cost? I think her decisions are controversial and she would change the face of the supreme court, and not in a good way.
+2....NObama is all about redistribution of wealth....very scary I think she supports his views, everyone he appoints basically does..
I hate to change the subject, but why everytime politics come up someone quickly brings in the anti-obama stuff....Do you guys honestly think that there was a better alternative?.....If so let hear it?....McCain and Palin?.....No, then who and how?......It is also funny that people are quick hate Obama, but are slow to take responsibility for who created this mess...Bush.
OMG - I was seriously hoping for a calm, relaxed topic. This post blows that 100% out of the water. I think the Obama interjection is warranted here to some degree as it is his appointment. And if you dont like him chances are you wont like his appointments. But to go back and say "what if" at this point, is utterly useless and is nothing more than a pie in the sky wish as we will never know how or what they would have did in office at this point.
I say stick on topic.
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Originally posted by rmadison007:
So basically you guys are saying that she should not be confirmed because she has views and judgements on specific issues that you do not agree with. On the supreme court there will more than just her and her opinions. I believe the fact that she has these controversial views and opinions make her more realistic. what is the purpose of having a supreme court with judges who all rule the same way. There should be a balance of opinions within the supreme court. I respect her for making the decision she made because they are her decisions. Do I agree with all of them? No. Do i think she will change the supreme court? No. No one judge can change a supreme court. Since a few of you believe she should not be confirmed......who do you guys think would be better? and So if there are other judges on the supreme court now who also don't agree with the 2nd amendment, believe strongly in affirmative action, and make controversial decisions should they be removed and replaced?
The 2nd amendment isn't a "different view", it's in the constitution. The highest supreme law of the country. When you have people in government who are against the Constitution you have a big problem.
I don't want to hear any b.s. about interpreting it different ways, you cannot interpret the 2nd amendment any other way than what the creators intended it to mean!
The other issue is judges ruling with personal "empathy"...No judge should be judging with personal empathy to make certain parties happy. It's argued she is ruling with empathy.
A judge should be ruling using the rule of law and applying that law....
If you think these issues are "different views" then it will be pointless arguing or trying to explain the problems here....
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Sorry, just hate all the Obama hating.....But back to the subject. Just had to get that off my chest.
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lol +1 to madison? ![[Eek!]](eek.gif)
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