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Bankrupt:
http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/31030038/
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Posts: 1955 | From: East bay | Registered: Jun 2004
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N8
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This is actually great news.
http://www.bloomberg.com/apps/news?pid=20601087&sid=aA_QjYuWXWzI&refer=home
This is the way business should go (the Darwin rule). I know I will get bashed, but I am a firm believer that big businesses should be allowed to fail, then re-invent themselves through a better business model. Bailing out GM would have been putting a band-aid on a shotgun wound. Many reports cited terrible vision, terrible business practices and gross fiscal arrogance.
I think this will be a case of "What doesn't kill you makes you stronger". But on the same token they are still floating them loans, which pisses me off.
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Your 100% right N8, they should be allowed to fail but you forgot to mention along with all the terrible things they've done along the way they also designed terrible cars....... Except the Vette....... And the 55-56 Bel Air......... And the 65 Chevelle....... And the 70-73 Camaro ![[Big Grin]](biggrin.gif)
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It's time for the country to do what Obama's own father did.
Abandon him.
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N8
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Originally posted by asskickn88:
Your 100% right N8, they should be allowed to fail but you forgot to mention along with all the terrible things they've done along the way they also designed terrible cars....... Except the Vette....... And the 55-56 Bel Air......... And the 65 Chevelle....... And the 70-73 Camaro
I am glad you said it. I didnt wanna disrespect the GM owners among us. hahahaha. But since you said it, +11000 ![[patriot]](graemlins/patriot.gif)
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Luke87GT
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Originally posted by N8:
This is actually great news.
http://www.bloomberg.com/apps/news?pid=20601087&sid=aA_QjYuWXWzI&refer=home
This is the way business should go (the Darwin rule). I know I will get bashed, but I am a firm believer that big businesses should be allowed to fail, then re-invent themselves through a better business model. Bailing out GM would have been putting a band-aid on a shotgun wound. Many reports cited terrible vision, terrible business practices and gross fiscal arrogance.
I think this will be a case of "What doesn't kill you makes you stronger". But on the same token they are still floating them loans, which pisses me off.
I've been in agreement with this from the beginning and taking heat for it daily, lol.
"Let the Bitch die!" Yes there will be short term pain, yes jobs will be lost, and yes people will have to re-shuffle their lives temporarily. But it is for the best in the long-run.
Bail-outs are usually temporary solutions and just delay the pain.
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it's just not that easy.. just to say let it die.. look at all the other places that sell to gm/ dodge... seats, rims, etc... with out 2 of the big 3. you then have a lot of supply shops going to die also.. with the supply shops out. it makes it more costly/ harder to find parts for the remaining car builders.... i'm in no way a chevy fan.. but if they go out. look at all the jobs lost, not just from gm. but all the little guys that supply them... it's one of those fucked up catch 22's... just my .02
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Originally posted by asskickn88:
Your 100% right N8, they should be allowed to fail but you forgot to mention along with all the terrible things they've done along the way they also designed terrible cars....... Except the Vette....... And the 55-56 Bel Air......... And the 65 Chevelle....... And the 70-73 Camaro
dont forget about the c10 and k5s they also made
67 camero ss 70 nova
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70-73 camaro???? POS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Ugly ass mofos...
67-69 ftmfw
[ June 01, 2009, 12:31 PM: Message edited by: cummins ]
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Originally posted by warhorse58gt:
it's just not that easy.. just to say let it die.. look at all the other places that sell to gm/ dodge... seats, rims, etc... with out 2 of the big 3. you then have a lot of supply shops going to die also.. with the supply shops out. it makes it more costly/ harder to find parts for the remaining car builders.... i'm in no way a chevy fan.. but if they go out. look at all the jobs lost, not just from gm. but all the little guys that supply them... it's one of those fucked up catch 22's... just my .02
exactly! its a shitty domino effect
im kinda excited for the volt. hopefully they can figure out how to produce it while keeping the cost down. finally an electric car that still looks like a car
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Just another link in a chain. One fails, they all fail.
Not the best idea, in my opinion.
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I don't like the fact that Obama and a group of people(he has chosen) are going to say what cars are built... How can you run a billion dollar business, if you have never ran a business before?
have you guys notice's how nancy and timmy had to go to china and basically kiss as much ass as hey can.... What would we do if china said "cash us out" we would be so f'd up
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Originally posted by turbo50:
I have no intenions of keeping anyones parts or taking anyones money.
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From what I read it actually means that everyone loves GM and they are saving GM from failing. If this was truly Darwinism, the government would not step in and GM would go under and which they could then reinvent themselves and be a better but smaller car company.
As always we get screwed because our tax money is going to save a company headed by the government. You think if they turn GM in a green company they will start magically selling cars? Unless that green is called MJ it will still stink.
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N8
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I somewhat like the posturing by Obama on this one. Although I am not 100% on the method. I think we as a nation need to be more globally conscience. I am not a true tree hugger, but I think we can be more responsible with our ecological foot print and personally I do not mind paying a little more for efficient cars in the future. And yes I have looked into ways personally to decrease my ecological footprint
I find it funny that people are not mad at the people who basically ran GM into the ground. But mad at the government for not bailing them out. I mean they purchased Hummer with eminent economic disaster staring in their faces. While Toyota and Honda were heading the other direction with their efforts, GM chose to make faulty investments, crap cars and fuel guzzling monstrosities.
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I am not a true tree hugger, but I think we can be more responsible with our ecological foot print and personally I do not mind paying a little more for efficient cars in the future. And yes I have looked into ways personally to decrease my ecological footprint
CAFORDS + TREE HUGGERS = BAN
I almost fell out of my chair here N8 when I read this one.
You gotta be kidding me bro!!!!!
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turbo50
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I am not a true tree hugger, but I think we can be more responsible with our ecological foot print and personally I do not mind paying a little more for efficient cars in the future. And yes I have looked into ways personally to decrease my ecological footprint by buying a 94 Cobra because WE ALL KNOW how clean these things run!!!
LOL sorry, had to. I fixed your quote!!
TEE HEE HEE
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Originally posted by N8:
...personally I do not mind paying a little more for efficient cars in the future....
To my defense....lol
I also have my giant ass 67 New Yorker with the 440 in it. But it runs on maple syrup.
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Originally posted by N8:
...personally I do not mind paying a little more for efficient cars in the future....
To my defense....lol
I also have my giant ass 67 New Yorker with the 440 in it. But it runs on maple syrup or beer
Well then at least you have the future to look forward to N8.
LOL too funny.
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Originally posted by N8:
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Originally posted by N8:
...personally I do not mind paying a little more for efficient cars in the future....
To my defense....lol
I also have my giant ass 67 New Yorker with the 440 in it. But it runs on maple syrup.
AND IT LAYS PANCAKES DOWN ![[Razz]](tongue.gif)
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Originally posted by 87GTCOBRA:
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Originally posted by N8:
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Originally posted by N8:
...personally I do not mind paying a little more for efficient cars in the future....
To my defense....lol
I also have my giant ass 67 New Yorker with the 440 in it. But it runs on maple syrup.
AND IT LAYS PANCAKES DOWN
And I aint talking no Safeway brand or Log Cabin Maple Syrup crap. I am talking premium Mrs. Butterworths baby.
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sic70stang
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this is just another thing i can add to my gm vs ford argument.
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I have gas guzzlers and love them, but another side of me thinks that some adjustment has to be made for a cleaner future.
We know that with all the pollution were giving out were F'n up our planet. Our radical weather is telling us this along with many other things.
Hopefully this leads to flying cars soon
Man I remember a few years back I had to do a project with financial analysis on all 6 automakers. GM was by far the strongest domestic and right on the edge of being on line with foreign makers.
I never would of thought...
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Originally posted by turbo50:
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Originally posted by N8:
I am not a true tree hugger, but I think we can be more responsible with our ecological foot print and personally I do not mind paying a little more for efficient cars in the future. And yes I have looked into ways personally to decrease my ecological footprint by buying a 94 Cobra because WE ALL KNOW how clean these things run!!!
LOL sorry, had to. I fixed your quote!!
TEE HEE HEE
hey my 94 cobra ran clean...
until i got my hands on it ![[Cool]](cool.gif) ![[burnout]](graemlins/burnout.gif)
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Speakin of flying cars i was watching something on the History channel about how they actually are in the process of making those. But we wuldnt have streets, we'd be flying over grass lol. And if we do see them it probably wouldnt be until the 2,030s. LOL. Long as they still rockin mustangs tho im down.
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Speakin of flying cars i was watching something on the History channel about how they actually are in the process of making those. But we wuldnt have streets, we'd be flying over grass lol. And if we do see them it probably wouldnt be until the 2,030s. LOL. Long as they still rockin mustangs tho im down.
PONY PRINCESS? I THINK I KNOW WHO THIS IS? IS THIS THE GIRL THAT DRIVE THAT ORANGE WHITE CREAM PANIT JOB? ON 22S?
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