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Just looking into some specs for a 351w build. At no overbore on a 351 block, what displacement can I achieve with the right stroker kit? Main goal is to keep a healthy amount of piston skirt in the bore. Any recommendations for kit manufacturer as well would be a great help. A cast crank with forged h beams and I'm shooting for a fast revving torque motor that will run on pump. Keeping it efi is the goal.

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You are asking for two different things out of a 351w.

Long stroke for the torque and short stroke kit for the revs. All depends how high of an rpm how much power you are looking to put down. Also if it's gonna have a power adder.

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What heads do you have or what budget do you have for heads? I'd start there before trying to figure out anything else. You're going to need good flowing heads if you want to run any sort of stroked 351.

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quote:
Originally posted by wilit:
What heads do you have or what budget do you have for heads? I'd start there before trying to figure out anything else. You're going to need good flowing heads if you want to run any sort of stroked 351.

Afr 205's would be something I'd be interested in. Custom cam by Ed Curtis, maybe a systemax set up

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quote:
Originally posted by Fostang:
You are asking for two different things out of a 351w.

Long stroke for the torque and short stroke kit for the revs. All depends how high of an rpm how much power you are looking to put down. Also if it's gonna have a power adder.

I don't want high revs if that's what you mean but to spin it fast if I have to give that up for torque I will. As long as half the piston isn't hanging down out of the bore I'm happy

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Been reading up the subject 393 you can use 302 pistions I have a 351w in my 70 plan to build to a 408w with tf 11r 190 with a 10.0 compression and a airgap depending on the cam hoping hoping for 500 at the wheels

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My combo:
Coast high performance scat 408 stroker kit
11.1 compression
Trick flow r series intake with 90mm tb opening intake powerband ( 2500 to 6800 on a 408w)
Trick flow 11R 190cc heads..flow same as afr 205cc but are $400 cheaper
Custom FTI cam .630 lift with scorpion 1.65 rockers (2500 to 6400 rpm )
Accufab 90mm throttle body
Anderson 4 inch power pipe
Bbk shorties

Haven't dynotuned yet but should be around 420 to 460rwhp after tune, car is very street able, might spray it down the road.

[ 2016-05-31, 06:03 PM: Message edited by: ed650 ]

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quote:
Originally posted by ed650:
My combo:
Coast high performance scat 408 stroker kit
11.1 compression
Trick flow r series intake with 90mm tb opening intake powerband ( 2500 to 6800 on a 408w)
Trick flow 11R 190cc heads..flow same as afr 205cc but are $400 cheaper
Custom FTI cam .630 lift with scorpion 1.65 rockers (2500 to 6400 rpm )
Accufab 90mm throttle body
Anderson 4 inch power pipe
Bbk shorties

Haven't dynotuned yet but should be around 420 to 460rwhp after tune, car is very street able, might spray it down the road.

See now that sounds around what I'm looking to do. And I may have to look into the 11r heads I've seen them 4 times today. As long as they don't require a crazy piston I'll consider them

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quote:
Originally posted by LXjames:
quote:
Originally posted by ed650:
My combo:
Coast high performance scat 408 stroker kit
11.1 compression
Trick flow r series intake with 90mm tb opening intake powerband ( 2500 to 6800 on a 408w)
Trick flow 11R 190cc heads..flow same as afr 205cc but are $400 cheaper
Custom FTI cam .630 lift with scorpion 1.65 rockers (2500 to 6400 rpm )
Accufab 90mm throttle body
Anderson 4 inch power pipe
Bbk shorties

Haven't dynotuned yet but should be around 420 to 460rwhp after tune, car is very street able, might spray it down the road.

See now that sounds around what I'm looking to do. And I may have to look into the 11r heads I've seen them 4 times today. As long as they don't require a crazy piston I'll consider them
This is the stroker kit I have its made for twisted wedge heads
http://www.coasthigh.com/Ford-408W-Reverse-Dome-19-4cc-Street-Fighter-Kit-p/14847-sf-f408w.htm

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quote:
Originally posted by ed650:
quote:
Originally posted by LXjames:
quote:
Originally posted by ed650:
My combo:
Coast high performance scat 408 stroker kit
11.1 compression
Trick flow r series intake with 90mm tb opening intake powerband ( 2500 to 6800 on a 408w)
Trick flow 11R 190cc heads..flow same as afr 205cc but are $400 cheaper
Custom FTI cam .630 lift with scorpion 1.65 rockers (2500 to 6400 rpm )
Accufab 90mm throttle body
Anderson 4 inch power pipe
Bbk shorties

Haven't dynotuned yet but should be around 420 to 460rwhp after tune, car is very street able, might spray it down the road.

See now that sounds around what I'm looking to do. And I may have to look into the 11r heads I've seen them 4 times today. As long as they don't require a crazy piston I'll consider them
This is the stroker kit I have its made for twisted wedge heads
http://www.coasthigh.com/Ford-408W-Reverse-Dome-19-4cc-Street-Fighter-Kit-p/14847-sf-f408w.htm

What type fuel you using?

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quote:
Originally posted by 70stang351w:
quote:
Originally posted by ed650:
quote:
Originally posted by LXjames:
quote:
Originally posted by ed650:
My combo:
Coast high performance scat 408 stroker kit
11.1 compression
Trick flow r series intake with 90mm tb opening intake powerband ( 2500 to 6800 on a 408w)
Trick flow 11R 190cc heads..flow same as afr 205cc but are $400 cheaper
Custom FTI cam .630 lift with scorpion 1.65 rockers (2500 to 6400 rpm )
Accufab 90mm throttle body
Anderson 4 inch power pipe
Bbk shorties

Haven't dynotuned yet but should be around 420 to 460rwhp after tune, car is very street able, might spray it down the road.

See now that sounds around what I'm looking to do. And I may have to look into the 11r heads I've seen them 4 times today. As long as they don't require a crazy piston I'll consider them
This is the stroker kit I have its made for twisted wedge heads
http://www.coasthigh.com/Ford-408W-Reverse-Dome-19-4cc-Street-Fighter-Kit-p/14847-sf-f408w.htm

What type fuel you using?
Chevron 91

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Have you tried to see how it does with 100 octane from the 76 on Woodside?

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Originally posted by ed650:
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Originally posted by 70stang351w:
quote:
Originally posted by ed650:
quote:
Originally posted by LXjames:
quote:
Originally posted by ed650:
My combo:
Coast high performance scat 408 stroker kit
11.1 compression
Trick flow r series intake with 90mm tb opening intake powerband ( 2500 to 6800 on a 408w)
Trick flow 11R 190cc heads..flow same as afr 205cc but are $400 cheaper
Custom FTI cam .630 lift with scorpion 1.65 rockers (2500 to 6400 rpm )
Accufab 90mm throttle body
Anderson 4 inch power pipe
Bbk shorties

Haven't dynotuned yet but should be around 420 to 460rwhp after tune, car is very street able, might spray it down the road.

See now that sounds around what I'm looking to do. And I may have to look into the 11r heads I've seen them 4 times today. As long as they don't require a crazy piston I'll consider them
This is the stroker kit I have its made for twisted wedge heads
http://www.coasthigh.com/Ford-408W-Reverse-Dome-19-4cc-Street-Fighter-Kit-p/14847-sf-f408w.htm

What type fuel you using?
Chevron 91
Nice was told by many that 11 compression wouldn't be good with 91

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9.2 dart block .20 over. 354ci, 8.5:1 comp, Custom blower cam shaft, Old ass West King ported Canfield heads, port matched Super vic intake, and Kooks 1 7/8s headers. on 91 it made 430whp, runs 10.5s on motor, and on the kit has been 9.40.

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