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Just put a maf and 24lb injectors in do I need a bigger throttle body. It doesn't feel like it picked up power.
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Just adding Injectors and MAF will do nothing for you unless you upgrade your Intake and Heads. Gears will be the best bang for your buck
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You talking about the upper and lower intake manifold
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unless you have upgraded heads & intake manifold, 24lb injectors are pretty much unnecessary.. 19lb injectors are perfectly fine with just bolt on like tb/egr spacer, headers, exhaust, etc.. Ive actually felt like my car got more sluggish when adding 24lb injectors & maf with just simple bolt ons; my cars always ran a lot better with the 19's..

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quote:
Originally posted by *Als50*:
Gears will be the best bang for your buck

I agree with him.. gears are the one of the best mods you can do in my opinion..

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I've got cold air intake, underdrive pulleys , Mac shorty headers, off-road h pipe and flowmaster 40s.
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Can I instal gears my self??
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I wouldn't try it. Ditch the cai and put back the stock box minus the silencer that's inside the fender panel for starters.

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I don't have the box just a long filter coming off the maf
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Try to find the stock air box with the stock elbow and put it back on.
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Why ditch the CAI?

I had to go with a CAI because the stock elbow wouldn't fit on a 70mm throttle body. I barely got the stock elbow to fit on a 65mm. Had to stretch it a lot.

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CAI. Made of Metal. Metal heats-up. Air going thru CAI begins to get saturated by heat. Rubber OEM elbow does not get Saturated by the heat nearly as much. CAI purpose is now a defeated purpose since the air that's suppose to be cold, is now warm.....
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Hmmmm...thanks for that explanation!

So how do you get the 58mm stock rubber elbow over a 70mm throttle body? Like I said, I had a bitch of a time getting it on a 65mm TB....but with a lot of "encouraging", it worked. I don't know if it had any more stretch to it though!

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I wouldn't recommend using the stock elbow because the accordion style tubing traps air. Go with an n/a power pipe from UPR (other companies make this as well), they are made from plastic and will not heat soak. What size maf housing do you have? Throw the stock 19's back on and get yourself a c&l 73mm maf housing. [patriot]

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Also, Do not use the chrome BBK cai, you are just shooting yourself in the foot.

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Infineon/Sears point? same difference!
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411 rwhp 402 trq (old set up)
540 rwhp 517 rwtrq (new set up)
ET's to come

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quote:
Originally posted by 92_5.0:
Also, Do not use the chrome BBK cai, you are just shooting yourself in the foot.

So what are good CAI to use on a bolt-on car

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Like I said above, a plastic power pipe and/or anything made from plastic. You can also save some money by making your own out of pvc pipe from Home depot. Those chrome BBK cai's heat soak instantly.

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411 rwhp 402 trq (old set up)
540 rwhp 517 rwtrq (new set up)
ET's to come

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Originally posted by sofresh:
[/QUOTE]So what are good CAI to use on a bolt-on
Anything Non-Metallic. I used the Stock air box on my 347 na w/the accordian style elbow with no problems at all. Carajo went 10's with the stock airbox and accordian elbow aswell. [Wink]

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quote:
Originally posted by *Als50*:
Originally posted by sofresh:

So what are good CAI to use on a bolt-on
Anything Non-Metallic. I used the Stock air box on my 347 na w/the accordian style elbow with no problems at all. Carajo went 10's with the stock airbox and accordian elbow aswell. [Wink]
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Any pictures ? I've been looking all day and can't find any cold airs without being made out of aluminum

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