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7-Up Man
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Saw the video. You have me stumped as well. You mentioned that there were some connectors that were not possibly making a good connection. Here is an odd option. Conductive paint. http://www.thinkgeek.com/product/eb92/
Take a look and see if this may help in maximizing the connections of those parts.
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Posts: 93 | From: Walnut Creek | Registered: Apr 2008
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coupedup
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Have u replaced the IAC to see if that would cure the idle problem?
What kind of TB do you have?
The idle can be adjusted in small increments from the throttle body..
Posts: 4406 | From: Ca | Registered: May 2010
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ddarkslayer
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The idle air control motor is brand new I have the BBK 70mm throttle body I reset the idle a long time ago and set the TPS to spec
Posts: 307 | From: Folsom | Registered: Feb 2011
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ddarkslayer
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I also have another video related to the issue I'm going to post soon that has to do with the flooding
Posts: 307 | From: Folsom | Registered: Feb 2011
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moeofit32
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Hey I say swap the tb but I'm no expert I just know my bbk tb use to do a lot of wierd shit like being a cruise control......after cleaning and all that' stuff went with accufab and my shits been legit since
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Posts: 2387 | From: antioch ca | Registered: Oct 2010
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NK2186
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unplug the IAC and start the car. Does it still do this?
Does this only happen when cold? Does it happen when hot as well?
Have you tried checking the codes on the engine?
If you really want to get down to it and figure out what is happening try putting a thread on SBF Tech for Joel 5.0
http://sbftech.com/index.php/board,20.0.html
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Posts: 400 | From: Haystack | Registered: Aug 2012
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NEIGHT
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quote: Originally posted by moeofit32: Hey I say swap the tb but I'm no expert I just know my bbk tb use to do a lot of wierd shit like being a cruise control......after cleaning and all that' stuff went with accufab and my shits been legit since
+1 it's definitely the BBK TB I also put on a brand new 70mm one N it usually just gets stuck on the first start up but at like 1.5k RPM. I'd hate to admit it but I don't listen to this guy well just kuz I'm hard headed but he warned me from BBK N he is right it does get stuck sometimes not bad tho.
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Posts: 18528 | From: EA$T $IDE REDWOOD CITY | Registered: Nov 2008
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ddarkslayer
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if the blade was getting stuck from gunk letting that extra air in then it wouldn't make sense that turning the key to the off position then back to the on position before my motor dies corrects my issue and the light turns off and it will do it 50% of the time. at a cold start and hot start. However, when I try to start the motor every time its warmed up the motor is flooded and its harder to start
Posts: 307 | From: Folsom | Registered: Feb 2011
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ddarkslayer
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and when I unplug the IAC the idle sits around 600 rpm when I set it with the idle screw.
Posts: 307 | From: Folsom | Registered: Feb 2011
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moeofit32
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Hey I never thought mines could act like cruise cotrol even when its cleaned and lubed......I'm jus sayin that the bbk one has been known to cause some issues......I'm no guru of a tech jus seems like u have tryed everything
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Posts: 2387 | From: antioch ca | Registered: Oct 2010
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NEIGHT
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Yeah I don't understand why they get stuck but they do. Mine still looks new BTW.
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Posts: 18528 | From: EA$T $IDE REDWOOD CITY | Registered: Nov 2008
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Wht86drop
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My boys car has the same exact issue exept whe you disconnect the tps then it idles normal
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Posts: 1669 | From: East Palo Alto, Fiji Islands | Registered: Jun 2012
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ddarkslayer
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yea mine does that when I disconnect the TPS. The werd thing is this issue must be very rare otherwise I would've already fixed it before it started
Posts: 307 | From: Folsom | Registered: Feb 2011
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NK2186
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I heard bad things about part store idle air controllers.. Mine is brand new from auto zone and sometimes it acts weird and wontalways high idle on cold starts.
FYI if the car is flooding on start you can hold the gas pedal to the floor and crank the engine. This stops the computer from pumping in additional fuel during start.
I would really suggest running a key on engine running test (koer) directions on sbftech website in Joel 5.0 section. Pick up one of those $20 code scanners for obd1 fords and plug it in then run test... The eec system will let you know whats going on!
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Posts: 400 | From: Haystack | Registered: Aug 2012
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ddarkslayer
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yea thats what I do to start it. When I do that it will start 50% of the time. I just really need to fix this issue the flooding is not good for the catalytic converters. I ran a KOER test and I get a pass code
Posts: 307 | From: Folsom | Registered: Feb 2011
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coupedup
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Have you tried to adujst the idle stop screw? Sometimes on the BBK tb and other aftermarket tb's for foxes they wont come properly adjusted thus causing high or low idle problems.
Posts: 4406 | From: Ca | Registered: May 2010
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ddarkslayer
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yea I set the idle to 600rpm with the engine running and the IAC unplugged
Posts: 307 | From: Folsom | Registered: Feb 2011
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dean-93
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all you ground wires intact/clean?
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Posts: 1175 | From: novato and fairfeild | Registered: Aug 2009
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NK2186
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Warm up the car to operating temperature then turn the engine off and disconnect the negative lead on the battery.
Remove the IAC connector, reinstall negative battery lead and start the car.
Turn the idle screw on the throttle body until you get a nice smooth idle preferably under 1000RPM (really depends on your cam) stock cam you can get around 700 area hard to tell with the stock tach.
Turn car off reconnect IAC and see if problem is still present.
If this still does not fix it look into getting your MAF tested or cleaned to see if that helps. Could be giving off crazy readings
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Posts: 400 | From: Haystack | Registered: Aug 2012
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ddarkslayer
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I'll give that a shot
Posts: 307 | From: Folsom | Registered: Feb 2011
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coupedup
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quote: Originally posted by ddarkslayer: I'll give that a shot
DDslayer Keep us updated
nk286 thas sum good info
Posts: 4406 | From: Ca | Registered: May 2010
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triple b
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Check the relays on the computer harness there is one under the mass air or filter. Have you checked the ground wire coming off the harness by the coil. There is a fuse in there that may go bad also. All else fail you can just swap out the engine harness from the ecu to the motor. Its not that hard to do that's why you never see the harness in pick n pull
Posts: 1730 | From: sacramento ca | Registered: Nov 2008
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Wht86drop
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Any new news on how it went?
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Posts: 1669 | From: East Palo Alto, Fiji Islands | Registered: Jun 2012
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