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So my previous motor was a blown 306 that was making close to 550hp at the wheels. Im starting from scratch with a 351 based dart block. Having trouble deciding if i want to build it for a blower or build a n/a motor. Im thinking just building if for boost cause i dont think i can get as much power out of a n/a motor. Also im not sure what size bore to order. 4.00" or 4.125". Open to suggestions but i need to make a decision on a rotating assembly very soon

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4.125" bore x 4" stroke (427ci)

2 ways I'd do it....depending on what I was looking for.

1. 500+RWHP all motor setup. On the mild side, but plenty of power and TQ to run low 10's at 130ish MPH with a 3200lb Raceweight. You could always spray it for more power....or you could go wilder and get 550+ out of it on motor, then spray.

2. Low compression super mild setup and add boost. 600+RWHP on pump gas wouldn't be an issue....& a LOT more on race fuel.

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Originally posted by white1990stang:
So my previous motor was a blown 306 that was making close to 550hp at the wheels. Im starting from scratch with a 351 based dart block. Having trouble deciding if i want to build it for a blower or build a n/a motor. Im thinking just building if for boost cause i dont think i can get as much power out of a n/a motor. Also im not sure what size bore to order. 4.00" or 4.125". Open to suggestions but i need to make a decision on a rotating assembly very soon

Do yourself a huge favor and get the 4.125 bore. I think all dart windsor 9.5 deck blocks use the cleveland 2.75 mains so you are good to go with that as well.

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Ok ive decided to go n/a. How much compression can i run on pump gas considering its all tuned right? Dan what way will the bigger bore benefit me? This lower end stuff is new to me. Its definately gonna be a stroker but not sure how big yet. I'd prefer it to be a top end motor. like it to rev to at least 7k

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Posts: 1308 | From: martinez | Registered: Jan 2003  |  :
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It all depends what you want out of the car and what your chassis can handle.

I know my fastback will be way over powered but I wanted that wow factor an don't plan on dragging it and to street drive it I have big enough waste gates to control the boost down low and make an eassssssy 700 rwhp.

The dart block I got was a sportsman with a 4" bore that way you get way more life out of the block quick can be bored up to 4.185. It's ready for roller cam with no work.

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Smaller bore pistons are easier to find if you find a stroker kit and to rev to 7 k I'd do with a tight lash solid roller. Oh and don't skimp out on lifters to survive on the street your gonna have to spend about 500-700 on lifters about 400 on steel rocker arms about 400 on a customs solid cam and about 250 on springs to match then don't forget some 3/8 pushrods

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