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`97 GT, needs a new motor.
has PI heads/cams/intake, accufab T/B, and C&L plenum, and a plenum spacer.
get another 4.6L shortblock from wrecking yard for like $300 and swap the current upper combo onto it?
or get a 5.4L for about $600, buy the reichard racing 4.6L-5.4L intake manifold adapter plates for $400, buy a new flywheel and clutch ($460 for just the clutch on summit, I can't find a flywheel there...but it's an 8 bolt so maybe a 4.6L 8 bolt flywheel works?)
make about the same hp, but about 75tq more at the wheels.
but it's a lot more money...
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02 Harley F150, 15psi
Posts: 8521 | From: Fairfield | Registered: Jul 2003
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Luke87GT
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i would do whatever was the cheapest route to get it running and sell it asap (:
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Stangless
Posts: 7802 | From: San Mateo | Registered: Jul 2000
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looks like the cheapest and best route would be to put a 5.0 motor in your car.
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Originally posted by Luke87GT:
i would do whatever was the cheapest route to get it running and sell it asap (:
hahaha, I dunno I think I may keep the car for at least a few months as a daily driver.
the A/C works better in it than my blazer ![[Eek!]](eek.gif)
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02 Harley F150, 15psi
Posts: 8521 | From: Fairfield | Registered: Jul 2003
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Originally posted by gt from 650:
looks like the cheapest and best route would be to put a 5.0 motor in your car.
why would I eliminate the possibility of the car ever passing smog, and give myself a wiring headache to put a pushrod motor in a 2v car? lol
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89 LX Notchback ex 4cyl, 14psi
02 Harley F150, 15psi
Posts: 8521 | From: Fairfield | Registered: Jul 2003
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NvrGoFullRetard
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i would go with your best judgement.if u are gonna sell the car soon buy a used 4.6 and be done with it,but if your ganna keep it go the 5.4 route.
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FasterDamnit
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Will the 5.4 clear the hood?
Posts: 2971 | From: NorCal | Registered: Sep 2001
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Originally posted by FasterDamnit:
Will the 5.4 clear the hood?
yes it will, pics I've seen show you need to trim the stock hood's under bracing a bit in the rear, but it does clear.
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89 LX Notchback ex 4cyl, 14psi
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Posts: 8521 | From: Fairfield | Registered: Jul 2003
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I'd like to put a 5.4 in mine as well..
many questions though. ecm,wiring, mounts,trans,mounting the trans. same horsepower...but more torque? problems with the rear end?
I'm curious if you do put the 5.4 in... I'd like to hear about it.
money is a serious issue. ![[Confused]](confused.gif)
[ July 16, 2007, 01:43 AM: Message edited by: gt from 650 ]
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2009 prius
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Posts: 1917 | From: california | Registered: Apr 2006
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ShadyJ13
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if you guys want to do a 5.4l swap I have the rr adapter plates for the intake. I was doing a 5.4l swap but mine is a 3v not a 2v will have it done soon and pics up soon
$385 for the plates.
any 8 bolt fly wheel will work 4.6 or 5.4. I bought a spec one..
any questions you guys have about doing 5.4 swap let me know. I have some good info. or you can pm johnb he has done this swap as well..
[ July 16, 2007, 01:54 AM: Message edited by: ShadyJ13 ]
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97 GT 5.4l 3v
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Originally posted by gt from 650:
I'd like to put a 5.4 in mine as well..
many questions though. ecm,wiring, mounts,trans,mounting the trans. same horsepower...but more torque? pr
there's no problems with any of those parts.
the only things you need, are an 8 bolt flywheel / flexplate if auto, the RR intake adapter plates to run a 4.6L intake manifold, and some minor exhaust work (lengthen the H pipe down tubes, and possibly widen the space at the H crossover on some cars)
everything else is exactly the same from every persons swap story that I have read
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a 3v swap though, good fucking luck with that buddy! I'd like to see a video of it running when you get it done though!
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89 LX Notchback ex 4cyl, 14psi
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Posts: 8521 | From: Fairfield | Registered: Jul 2003
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the motor is coming out tomorrow, so I gotta get on the phone to the local wrecking yards to see what's available
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89 LX Notchback ex 4cyl, 14psi
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Posts: 8521 | From: Fairfield | Registered: Jul 2003
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RiverCityAuto
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If you want to do a 5.4l swap we just did a 5.4l 3v so we are pretty familiar with the swap and a 2v is way easier. If you are interested give us a call at 916-922-2997
[ July 20, 2007, 02:16 AM: Message edited by: RiverCityAuto ]
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River City Auto
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Posts: 34 | From: Sacramento, CA | Registered: May 2007
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I have '06 3v. x pipes no cats.
adapters and plates? 8 bolts ?? huh? I have a spec 3 clutch with the stock tranny.
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Posts: 1917 | From: california | Registered: Apr 2006
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you have an 06 3v what? 4.6l or 5.4?
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97 GT 5.4l 3v
Posts: 33 | From: Sacramento,CA | Registered: Jun 2007
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Originally posted by gt from 650:
I have '06 3v. x pipes no cats.
adapters and plates? 8 bolts ?? huh? I have a spec 3 clutch with the stock tranny.
then you'd probably want a 3v 5.4L motor, not a 2v...the tech posted in this thread really doesn't apply to an `06 mustang, and honestly I can't believe you'd be considering a motor swap on a 1 year old car...
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Posts: 8521 | From: Fairfield | Registered: Jul 2003
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well, you wouldn't believe the things I do and have done. but thats irrelevant.
I want do a motor swap. some people say push rod, some say 4v. the 4v is not going to work. because my car is a drive by wire. I found an '04 5.4 3v for 1,500. out of a van. now what?
[ July 16, 2007, 11:04 PM: Message edited by: gt from 650 ]
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I'm I in undiscovered territory here?
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if you have alot of money to spend then do it. if not I would go 2v. I am doing a 5.4l 3v swap now and it is costing me alot more then I expected
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97 GT 5.4l 3v
Posts: 33 | From: Sacramento,CA | Registered: Jun 2007
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Originally posted by ShadyJ13:
if you have a lot of money to spend then do it. if not I would go 2v. I am doing a 5.4l 3v swap now and it is costing me a lot more then I expected
what year body are you working with? what year motor are you installing? what kinda problems are you having? what costs were not initially expected?
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[/qb][/QUOTE]what year body are you working with? what year motor are you installing? what kinda problems are you having? what costs were not initially expected? [/QB][/QUOTE]
I on right now under the shop thats doing it this is ShadyJ13. I have a 97 GT. I'm dropping in an 05 F-150 5.4l 3v. There is a list of things that I had to modify for this to work. The major cost is the exhaust. I am having to have a custom h pipe made with 05 f-150 cats on it so it will pass smog. most of the other stuff I bought were things not really needed but wanted since I had the car torn apart. I am hoping to have the car running this weekend. After that I will be doing a full write up on it with pics and all that. the motor fits in perfect no fitting problems at all. its not really that hard of a swap. if any one in the area wants to do it river city auto is more then happy to do it for you or give any info you need on what we did.. but like I said we will be doing a whole write up on the swap with pics. so any infor hit up either one of us.
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cool post that shit up.
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is that '05 f-150 drive by wire? I found an '04 motor out of a econoline van. 5.4l 3v. is the '04 drive by wire?
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As was stated above, 5.4 if your keeping it or the 4.6 if your gonna sell it. If you are gonna keep it, look into a 4.6l 3v swap, the heads on the 3v's are supposed to have similar flow #'s as 4v's.
Also rivercity, you have a pm.
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yes the 05 is a drive by wire. we converted it back to a plenum and throttle body. it is running now and just with a basic tune it is strong. well when I get back from my deployment I will post pics and a write up. I should be back around the 1st of sept. Or if you are going to the Hayward show it will be down there with river city auto repair and performance. Look for Eric he is the owner. We had alot of fun doing this swap.
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97 GT 5.4l 3v
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