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Topic: Decisions!!! Vortech Supercharger S-Trim or T-trim... Stock 5.0
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gnatsum05
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1993 Mustang GT... Completely Stock 5.0... 95,000 miles.... Just have Long Tube Headers... w/Built AOD w/3000 Stall... What do you Guys recommend? Vortech Supercharger S-Trim or T-Trim... I Want to up grade in the future. With a Stronger Block... & H/C/I... Thanks a bunch...[url] http://www.andersonfordmotorsport.com/blowers/50-blowers.html#stg1strim93[/url]
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Only thing I can recommend is to plan for the future. You already know or should know that your going to want more power......as soon as you get a little bit you want more and more. Its addictive. You will end up saving money in the long run if you start with this idea. Before long, you will have 1,000 hp monster ![[patriot]](graemlins/patriot.gif)
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Novi 2000. Incredibly wide efficiency range. And Now Paxton and Vortech are one company.
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SmokinLX
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Originally posted by gnatsum05:
1993 Mustang GT... Completely Stock 5.0... 95,000 miles.... Just have Long Tube Headers... w/Built AOD w/3000 Stall... What do you Guys recommend? Vortech Supercharger S-Trim or T-Trim... I Want to up grade in the future. With a Stronger Block... & H/C/I... Thanks a bunch...[url] http://www.andersonfordmotorsport.com/blowers/50-blowers.html#stg1strim93[/url]
Since You are planning on an aftermarket block I will assume You want 500 or more RWHP so the S trim would'nt make much sense. What are You planning on doing with the car? Drag/autocross/wicked street car? If You have the coin then the novi 2000 is a great choice.
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Dont claim power if ya cant mile per hour. 10 second AOD
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onesicklx
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Originally posted by gnatsum05:
1993 Mustang GT... Completely Stock 5.0... 95,000 miles.... Just have Long Tube Headers... w/Built AOD w/3000 Stall... What do you Guys recommend? Vortech Supercharger S-Trim or T-Trim... I Want to up grade in the future. With a Stronger Block... & H/C/I... Thanks a bunch...[url] http://www.andersonfordmotorsport.com/blowers/50-blowers.html#stg1strim93[/url]
Since You are planning on an aftermarket block I will assume You want 500 or more RWHP so the S trim would'nt make much sense. What are You planning on doing with the car? Drag/autocross/wicked street car? If You have the coin then the novi 2000 is a great choice.
are you saying a vortech s trim is not capble of doing over 500rwhp?
Posts: 1955 | From: san jose, CA | Registered: Jun 2001
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SmokinLX
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Originally posted by gnatsum05:
1993 Mustang GT... Completely Stock 5.0... 95,000 miles.... Just have Long Tube Headers... w/Built AOD w/3000 Stall... What do you Guys recommend? Vortech Supercharger S-Trim or T-Trim... I Want to up grade in the future. With a Stronger Block... & H/C/I... Thanks a bunch...[url] http://www.andersonfordmotorsport.com/blowers/50-blowers.html#stg1strim93[/url]
Since You are planning on an aftermarket block I will assume You want 500 or more RWHP so the S trim would'nt make much sense. What are You planning on doing with the car? Drag/autocross/wicked street car? If You have the coin then the novi 2000 is a great choice.
are you saying a vortech s trim is not capble of doing over 500rwhp?
I know there are guy's running 650+ rwhp with big cube 351 stroker's. If He is going to spend the money for an aftermarket block then You would assume that He would want more power than a s trim can put out. For Me the s trim will take You to the limit's of the stockblock but when You are talking aftermarket block's then You will want something bigger than a s trim.
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Dont claim power if ya cant mile per hour. 10 second AOD
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if you were to stay with a stock motor the s trim is a better choice.if you plan on doing a built 47 later on then by all means do a t trim.Little fyi i did a t trim on a stock motor with gt40 intake bbk headers mass and 42 lbs injectors with a 75mm tbody on 7psi we made 378 and 360tq on 91 octane and a stock cat pipe with a very very safe tune.26 degrres total at full boost and 10.6 a/f at full boost.
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onesicklx
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if you were to stay with a stock motor the s trim is a better choice.if you plan on doing a built 47 later on then by all means do a t trim.Little fyi i did a t trim on a stock motor with gt40 intake bbk headers mass and 42 lbs injectors with a 75mm tbody on 7psi we made 378 and 360tq on 91 octane and a stock cat pipe with a very very safe tune.26 degrres total at full boost and 10.6 a/f at full boost.
how much is full boost?
Posts: 1955 | From: san jose, CA | Registered: Jun 2001
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onesicklx
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Originally posted by SmokinLX:
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Originally posted by gnatsum05:
1993 Mustang GT... Completely Stock 5.0... 95,000 miles.... Just have Long Tube Headers... w/Built AOD w/3000 Stall... What do you Guys recommend? Vortech Supercharger S-Trim or T-Trim... I Want to up grade in the future. With a Stronger Block... & H/C/I... Thanks a bunch...[url] http://www.andersonfordmotorsport.com/blowers/50-blowers.html#stg1strim93[/url]
Since You are planning on an aftermarket block I will assume You want 500 or more RWHP so the S trim would'nt make much sense. What are You planning on doing with the car? Drag/autocross/wicked street car? If You have the coin then the novi 2000 is a great choice.
are you saying a vortech s trim is not capble of doing over 500rwhp?
I know there are guy's running 650+ rwhp with big cube 351 stroker's. If He is going to spend the money for an aftermarket block then You would assume that He would want more power than a s trim can put out. For Me the s trim will take You to the limit's of the stockblock but when You are talking aftermarket block's then You will want something bigger than a s trim.
listen bro im not triying to give you a hard time, but you make it seem like making over 500rwhp with an s trim is hard to do...(all you need is a good stock bottom end with good heads/intake/cam and the blower and you should be able to acheive that number...good luck
Posts: 1955 | From: san jose, CA | Registered: Jun 2001
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onesicklx
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Originally posted by onesicklx:
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Originally posted by SmokinLX:
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Originally posted by gnatsum05:
1993 Mustang GT... Completely Stock 5.0... 95,000 miles.... Just have Long Tube Headers... w/Built AOD w/3000 Stall... What do you Guys recommend? Vortech Supercharger S-Trim or T-Trim... I Want to up grade in the future. With a Stronger Block... & H/C/I... Thanks a bunch...[url] http://www.andersonfordmotorsport.com/blowers/50-blowers.html#stg1strim93[/url]
Since You are planning on an aftermarket block I will assume You want 500 or more RWHP so the S trim would'nt make much sense. What are You planning on doing with the car? Drag/autocross/wicked street car? If You have the coin then the novi 2000 is a great choice.
are you saying a vortech s trim is not capble of doing over 500rwhp?
I know there are guy's running 650+ rwhp with big cube 351 stroker's. If He is going to spend the money for an aftermarket block then You would assume that He would want more power than a s trim can put out. For Me the s trim will take You to the limit's of the stockblock but when You are talking aftermarket block's then You will want something bigger than a s trim.
yes, i agreed with you about buying the t trim....
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gnatsum05
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More Information if you guys have MORE!!! Hey Guys... Thanks for all your input... I appreciate it... I know I want to stay Smog Legal... & All Three will Pass... S-Trim, T-Trim & the Novi 2000... I like the Turbo's if they were Legal... Hey SmokinLX... 10 second E.T. "AWESOME"!!! What is your Combo... Engine/Transmission??? If you don't mind me askin' Thanks again, Tom
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Decide what you want the ultimate goal to be and work backwards from there. If you just start throwing parts at it, you'll be at it forever. If you even think you're going to want 550-600 hp out of it, go with a aftermarket block. Ford Racing just released the new Boss 302 block and it's definitely affordable. A Novi 2000 is your best bet for a SC you can grow with if you're desiring that.
A S-trim will definitely make 500+ rwhp, but that's not the issue...a stock block is. And yes, a stock block will hold it...but for how long? It does no good to spend $$$$ on a nice rotating assembly only to cram it in a stock block. Do you want a ticking timebomb under the hood?
You go as fast as your pockets are deep.... ![[Big Grin]](biggrin.gif)
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SmokinLX
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More Information if you guys have MORE!!! Hey Guys... Thanks for all your input... I appreciate it... I know I want to stay Smog Legal... & All Three will Pass... S-Trim, T-Trim & the Novi 2000... I like the Turbo's if they were Legal... Hey SmokinLX... 10 second E.T. "AWESOME"!!! What is your Combo... Engine/Transmission??? If you don't mind me askin' Thanks again, Tom
I have a 306 with stock rebuild part's and F cam, AFR 185's, Pullied S trim -13 #'s of boost, tranny is a built AOD with manual valvebody, tranny brake, and a 3500 edge street/strip converter. With My trap speed and a conservative weight guess on My car put's Me at 600 fwhp which is pushing the limit's of the stock block. You going to be dragging the car? What kind of ET's are You hoping for?
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Dont claim power if ya cant mile per hour. 10 second AOD
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Thanks, JohnB for chimin' in... Your the Ford Guru... Thanks, for your Expertise... SmokinLX, Thanks, for sharing your Combination... I'll be Street Drivin' & Dragging sometimes... I think for now... I'll see what I can crank out with the 5.0 Liter... 95,000 mile Stockblock first... w/Longtube headers... GT-40 Intake... & 1.7 Rockers... & Supercharger??? Either the Novi 2000 or the T-Trim... Then I will Upgrade to a Stronger Rotating Assembly... H/C/I... Again, Thank you All...
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buy a used s-trim and upgrade to whatever trim when you're ready.
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Originally posted by onesicklx:
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Originally posted by 90lxfoxbody:
if you were to stay with a stock motor the s trim is a better choice.if you plan on doing a built 47 later on then by all means do a t trim.Little fyi i did a t trim on a stock motor with gt40 intake bbk headers mass and 42 lbs injectors with a 75mm tbody on 7psi we made 378 and 360tq on 91 octane and a stock cat pipe with a very very safe tune.26 degrres total at full boost and 10.6 a/f at full boost.
how much is full boost?
7psi.
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Ya I own that Cobra
Old setup whipple and jug 9.37 155
New twins hoping for 8.50s at 165
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Originally posted by onesicklx:
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Originally posted by 90lxfoxbody:
if you were to stay with a stock motor the s trim is a better choice.if you plan on doing a built 47 later on then by all means do a t trim.Little fyi i did a t trim on a stock motor with gt40 intake bbk headers mass and 42 lbs injectors with a 75mm tbody on 7psi we made 378 and 360tq on 91 octane and a stock cat pipe with a very very safe tune.26 degrres total at full boost and 10.6 a/f at full boost.
how much is full boost?
7psi.
dam, i had the same set up only with gt40 iron heads at 10psi with a novi 2000 and did 371rwhp 380tq...hmm, i guess my combo was weak... ![[Confused]](confused.gif)
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s-trim. It will be able to support more power than your stock block can handle if you upgrade to a good H/C/I setup. The S-trim should give you better low boost response as well.
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