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1sick65
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i need new shocks, struts and springs. i dont know what to go with for a daily driven car that will see the track occasionally. i was thinking either a full set of GR-2's with eibach sportlines or going with the tokico gas shocks and springs. any ideas?-Nick
Posts: 1457 | From: Sacramento,CA | Registered: Jan 2004
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poisonpony96
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call Maximum motorsport. Great people to talk to very help full! got all my suspension from them.
Posts: 1183 | From: San Jose | Registered: Dec 2003
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1SiCV8
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I'm on the same boat as you. I heard that the GR-2's arent so great. I have the sportline and plan on getting the Tokico's adjustables.
I don't know why but everyone tells me to get the adjustables.
Let me know what you end up with in the end and how it works out for you.
Posts: 123 | From: GreaterBayArea | Registered: Mar 2004
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2BlueGeeTees
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adjustables are the way to go. you will be able to set it up for "track use" with the turn of a dial and then return to a mor street friendly setup afterwards. maximum motorsports, qa1 and strange engineering all make really good adjustables that would work well for that use. i would replace the upper and lower control arms too wile you are down there. ![[Wink]](wink.gif)
Posts: 2316 | From: Vacaville | Registered: Jul 2004
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1FAST89GT
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billstein is the way to go
Posts: 4915 | From: VALLEJO | Registered: May 2004
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two-gun kid2
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Originally posted by 1SiCV8:
I'm on the same boat as you. I heard that the GR-2's arent so great. I have the sportline and plan on getting the Tokico's adjustables.
I don't know why but everyone tells me to get the adjustables.
Let me know what you end up with in the end and how it works out for you.
you gonna get adjustables and you dont even know why? ![[Eek!]](eek.gif)
Posts: 5566 | From: Hayward,Ca | Registered: Jul 2005
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92stangLX
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Originally posted by two-gun kid:
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Originally posted by 1SiCV8:
I'm on the same boat as you. I heard that the GR-2's arent so great. I have the sportline and plan on getting the Tokico's adjustables.
I don't know why but everyone tells me to get the adjustables.
Let me know what you end up with in the end and how it works out for you.
you gonna get adjustables and you dont even know why?
If it's just a street car than adjustables are not needed IMO. If you plan on getting some track time in (like road racing) as well as street driving then you may want adjustables.
Posts: 5302 | From: San Francisco | Registered: Sep 2003
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First Place Performance
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Adjustables are also good for drag racing too. I would stay away from the KYB line, they aren't the best, but for OE or little better then OE, they are ok. Tokico makes a much better shock/strut. I would recomend them over the KYB's anyday.
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Posts: 66 | From: Patterson, CA or Las Vegas, NV. | Registered: Dec 2005
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BUKSING
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Originally posted by First Place Performance:
Adjustables are also good for drag racing too. I would stay away from the KYB line, they aren't the best, but for OE or little better then OE, they are ok. Tokico makes a much better shock/strut. I would recomend them over the KYB's anyday.
how and why are tokicos better than kyb's...i seen that said before but i was just wondering cause it was never explained.
Posts: 1571 | From: 510 | Registered: Mar 2006
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two-gun kid2
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Originally posted by BUKSING:
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Originally posted by First Place Performance:
Adjustables are also good for drag racing too. I would stay away from the KYB line, they aren't the best, but for OE or little better then OE, they are ok. Tokico makes a much better shock/strut. I would recomend them over the KYB's anyday.
how and why are tokicos better than kyb's...i seen that said before but i was just wondering cause it was never explained.
kyb's are somewhat the bottom of the barrel struts/shocks out there they are basicly senseetracks(kragen struts/shocks) tokicos will last longer and take the abuse better than the kyb's
Posts: 5566 | From: Hayward,Ca | Registered: Jul 2005
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poisonpony96
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when i talked to the guys at MM the turned me away from adjustables because you need to have the right setup for the spring. I have the sport valved bilstien with 400 lbs coilover springs with that shock I can only got with 350-400lbs spring otherwise the suspension wont work together. you need to know what you are doing. when you have adjustables
Posts: 1183 | From: San Jose | Registered: Dec 2003
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I Fear No Five O
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Originally posted by 1FAST89GT:
billstein is the way to go
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Posts: 152 | From: Bay Area | Registered: Jan 2005
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racercosmo
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Originally posted by poisonpony96:
when i talked to the guys at MM the turned me away from adjustables because you need to have the right setup for the spring. I have the sport valved bilstien with 400 lbs coilover springs with that shock I can only got with 350-400lbs spring otherwise the suspension wont work together. you need to know what you are doing. when you have adjustables
Whoever you spoke to probably misunderstood the engineer's explanation. To say that one spring rate has only one damping value is wrong. Depending on the racetrack, you may run similar spring rates, but the car might need less bump damping, and more rebound damping than another track.
They make a very good product, so I would hope that Maximum Motorsports doesn't tout that line because they sell non adjustable dampers.
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Posts: 973 | From: Marin | Registered: Sep 2002
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poisonpony96
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Originally posted by poisonpony96:
when i talked to the guys at MM the turned me away from adjustables because you need to have the right setup for the spring. I have the sport valved bilstien with 400 lbs coilover springs with that shock I can only got with 350-400lbs spring otherwise the suspension wont work together. you need to know what you are doing. when you have adjustables
Whoever you spoke to probably misunderstood the engineer's explanation. To say that one spring rate has only one damping value is wrong. Depending on the racetrack, you may run similar spring rates, but the car might need less bump damping, and more rebound damping than another track.
They make a very good product, so I would hope that Maximum Motorsports doesn't tout that line because they sell non adjustable dampers.
they said it was easier to go non adjustable. I wouldn't have to dial it in. it would just be ready go.
Posts: 1183 | From: San Jose | Registered: Dec 2003
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poisonpony96
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I guess I'm just a dee deedee. Don't listen to anything I said.
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racercosmo
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Originally posted by poisonpony96:
they said it was easier to go non adjustable. I wouldn't have to dial it in. it would just be ready go.
That makes sense and I agree to a point.
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Posts: 973 | From: Marin | Registered: Sep 2002
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poisonpony96
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Originally posted by racercosmo:
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Originally posted by poisonpony96:
they said it was easier to go non adjustable. I wouldn't have to dial it in. it would just be ready go.
That makes sense and I agree to a point.
What point? please more info. I always want to learn more to make my car better.
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racercosmo
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Originally posted by racercosmo:
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Originally posted by poisonpony96:
they said it was easier to go non adjustable. I wouldn't have to dial it in. it would just be ready go.
That makes sense and I agree to a point.
What point? please more info. I always want to learn more to make my car better.
For a novice, not being able to adjust damper settings can be a benefit. If you start playing around with things and don't know what you're doing, you can make the car do bad things and not know why your car isn't handling properly. As you progress, it does help to try different adjustments on purpose to get a better idea of what is happening with the car.
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RED@7kVERT *8850GT*
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The tockico blue shock and spring kit off ebay for like $360...and the blue oval ind. control arm kit for like $150...this is the best route as far as "bang for the buck" is concerned......IMO. Nothing is adjustable, its all plug n play if you will.....and they all work very well for the price you will pay.....
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xcessive50
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i think the sportline springs are too soft if you plan to take it on the track or rail around turns on the street for that matter. softer than stock at first i think.
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