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Yellow94GT
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Well here it is. Looks great until all hell breaks loose at 5900.

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I'm open to suggestions [Confused]

[ April 25, 2006, 01:48 PM: Message edited by: Yellow94GT ]

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any data logs?

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Man dude you through it in Reverse at the end there or what? [Razz] [Big Grin] [Razz]

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quote:
Originally posted by CDT:
any data logs?

You would have to ask Shaun, 93Pony. I'm not sure if he saved any of it.

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thats the way you will get to the bottom of it.

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I'll double check the log, but I don't remember seeing anything unusual. We were in a bit of a time crunch though.....

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looking great upto 5900,valve float?
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Compression ratio and plugs you're running with gap?

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Is your fuel system up to task volume wise?
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Drew,

Thats great that you got your car dynod, but that is one messed up graph. Your car has always had problems - Is this still a continuation of the original issue that you had related to not being able to rev, or did you get that whole thing closed out?

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quote:
Originally posted by BlacksheepMod50:
Drew,

Thats great that you got your car dynod, but that is one messed up graph. Your car has always had problems - Is this still a continuation of the original issue that you had related to not being able to rev, or did you get that whole thing closed out?

Ryan

Appears to be the same problem [Roll Eyes]

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heres a solution...

T.O.P.'s on my 00GT [Smile] wont have the same power but will have no idling or reving problems..i could always deal with a 400rwhp+ mustang with a reving problem [Razz] jk..

nice numbers [Smile] hope u get the problem fixed!

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Looks like you have reached the limit of something. My first guess would be vavle control.Looks like the A/F ratio stayed fairly consistent so it seems unlikely to be spark or fuel related. The data log should confirm the health of those.
Not sure whats in this car other than the obvious blower, I'd be interested to see if there was a similar dropoff at that rpm before you went forced induction. How about some blower belt slip?
I'm also guessing this dyno isn't putting a load on the car.
You aren't really expecting it to pull to 7k are you?

[ April 25, 2006, 11:49 PM: Message edited by: dynoguy ]

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quote:
Originally posted by dynoguy:
Looks like you have reached the limit of something. My first guess would be vavle control.Looks like the A/F ratio stayed fairly consistent so it seems unlikely to be spark or fuel related. The data log should confirm the health of those.
Not sure whats in this car other than the obvious blower, I'd be interested to see if there was a similar dropoff at that rpm before you went forced induction. That would support the vavle float theory. If it was fine before, perhaps you have maxed out your current airflow potential.

the car is N/A

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quote:
Originally posted by dynoguy:
Looks like you have reached the limit of something. My first guess would be vavle control.Looks like the A/F ratio stayed fairly consistent so it seems unlikely to be spark or fuel related. The data log should confirm the health of those.
Not sure whats in this car other than the obvious blower, I'd be interested to see if there was a similar dropoff at that rpm before you went forced induction. That would support the vavle float theory. If it was fine before, perhaps you have maxed out your current airflow potential.

Who said anything about a blower?

Blowers are bandaids [Wink] [Razz] [Big Grin]

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wow, thats pretty impressive then. sorta rules out belt slip too :-)
Tell me alittle about whats in it

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quote:
Originally posted by dynoguy:
wow, thats pretty impressive then. sorta rules out belt slip too :-)
Tell me alittle about whats in it

Belt slip? Worried his alternator isn't charging?

http://www.fordmuscle.com/archives/2005/02/YellowFever/

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this car is so damn beautiful!! makes me wanna sell my 00GT and get another one of these...well except this time itll have a 5.0 instead of a 4.6 [Big Grin]

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Thanks for the link FasterDamnit. This is definatly not the typical Mustang that i see every other day.
Very nice car! Sounds like he's got serious skills too.

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quote:
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quote:
Originally posted by dynoguy:
wow, thats pretty impressive then. sorta rules out belt slip too :-)
Tell me alittle about whats in it

Belt slip? Worried his alternator isn't charging?

http://www.fordmuscle.com/archives/2005/02/YellowFever/

Seriously though. Could my little racing battery be causing me problems up top? What if there is some sort of problem with the main wire from the alternator? [Confused]

BTW, thanks for the complements guys. Hope I can get this fixed and see what she can really do! [burnout]

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Guys, the belt slip comment was poking fun at myself, i don't know the car so when i saw the dyno sheet up in the 400+ hp range I assumed it was blown like most 400hp mustangs.

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quote:
Originally posted by dynoguy:
Guys, the belt slip comment was poking fun at myself, i don't know the car so when i saw the dyno sheet up in the 400+ hp range I assumed it was blown like most 400hp mustangs.

I knew you were kidding at that point.

But I'm seriously wondering if a voltage drop at high RPMs may be causing this.

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What kind of racing battery do you have? I believe the alternator should be giving you your power at those high RPM's though I'm not sure.

Spark blowing out?

Perhaps you are reaching the limit of your heads (porting)? Perhaps hot spots in the combustion chamber? That make a more erratic a/f though.

Computer issues at high rpms?

Just throwing stuff out there.

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quote:
Originally posted by Yellow94GT:
quote:
Originally posted by dynoguy:
Guys, the belt slip comment was poking fun at myself, i don't know the car so when i saw the dyno sheet up in the 400+ hp range I assumed it was blown like most 400hp mustangs.

I knew you were kidding at that point.

But I'm seriously wondering if a voltage drop at high RPMs may be causing this.

Maybe not so much as a Drop but more that your demand generates more then your supply can handle? Couldn't hurt to switch out to a bigger battery.

[ April 26, 2006, 05:34 PM: Message edited by: 98slowhoe 'FIFTYLX' ]

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do you have an aftermarket ignition box? maybe try a bigger power and ground wires [Confused]
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