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Purple Coupe
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well time to get some new heads, what do i need to do to run trick flow t/w heads? custom push rods? and do these come in a pedestal mount? or do i need stud mount rockers.Im looking into buying heads no later than tuesday so any suggestion's that might run good with my combo? please let me know.Not to forget i will be running a blower also now the juice is coming off. I plan to put the blower and heads on no later than this coming up weekend, so for sure i can make ford/chevy with the new combo.
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putter
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Get some AFR's if youre gonna do it DO IT!
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bookoo
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whats wrong with trick flow heads??
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whats wrong with trick flow heads??
Nothing. they work awesome.
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putter
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They sure do! Just not as good as the AFR's. If you like to settle for second best get the TF's if you like to be 1st get the AFR's.
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putter
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Before this goes to far take note that nobody has said the TFs are better than the AFR's. Your car runs goos so Im sure you know AFR's are better. P.S. Im interested in the nitrouse kit if youre selling it PM me.
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CobramanPhil
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Get the cnc'd tw heads directly from trickflow...end of story ![[Smile]](smile.gif)
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Purple Coupe
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Originally posted by 92stangLX:
Check out this link
http://www.trickflow.com/media/pr/pr_tab_techspecs_2.gif
I think you are going to need different pushrods. The roller rockers are stud mount.
BTW, these are good heads ![[Wink]](wink.gif)
your link dont work, but i want to see what ever it is.
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CDT
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Originally posted by CobramanPhil:
Get the cnc'd tw heads directly from trickflow...end of story
why when we sell them for less.
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GOT 50
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CNC'd TF's will flow way more then AFR's box cnc porting!
Eric
AFR's 205 race head barley flows what my TFS 185's flow So i ma getting more port velocity and a better valve angle. HAHA
[ April 22, 2006, 11:10 AM: Message edited by: GOT 50 ]
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CDT
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Originally posted by GOT 50:
CNC'd TF's will flow way more then AFR's box cnc porting!
Eric
AFR's 205 race head barley flows what my TFS 185's flow So i ma getting more port velocity and a better valve angle. HAHA
that is not necessarily true.
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Purple Coupe
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Originally posted by CDT:
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Originally posted by CobramanPhil:
Get the cnc'd tw heads directly from trickflow...end of story
why when we sell them for less.
How much do you sell them for??
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SPEC -Fabrication
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The trick flows have a problem with the Valve guides, I had a set when they first came out. I had to have the guides replaced only after a few thousand miles. I'd go with AFR's
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CDT
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Originally posted by PRIMERED COUPE:
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Originally posted by CDT:
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Originally posted by CobramanPhil:
Get the cnc'd tw heads directly from trickflow...end of story
why when we sell them for less.
How much do you sell them for??
$1900 out the door
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CDT
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Originally posted by SPEC -Fabrication:
The trick flows have a problem with the Valve guides, I had a set when they first came out. I had to have the guides replaced only after a few thousand miles. I'd go with AFR's
valve guide wear is caused mostly because of bad valve train geometry.
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Since we're on the topic of trick flow heads, I had a question for my buddys car. It's an 88 lx hatch mostly stock with trick flow twisted wedge heads. He is using the stock length pushrods and when the engine revs to around 3 grand he gets a very harsh vibration coming from the engine. I was wondering if different length pushrods are necessicary for the t/w heads? Also he has had the heads resurfaced many times (4 or 5, I can't remember) due to blown head gaskets. Also he is running crane 1.7 roller rockers.
edit: the harsh shaking / vibration is also when he is in neutral as well as in gear.
[ April 22, 2006, 10:42 PM: Message edited by: hockeyguy713 ]
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Purple Coupe
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Originally posted by CDT:
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Originally posted by PRIMERED COUPE:
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Originally posted by CDT:
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Originally posted by CobramanPhil:
Get the cnc'd tw heads directly from trickflow...end of story
why when we sell them for less.
How much do you sell them for??
$1900 out the door
ok cool, now do you have them @ your shop? also thay are stud mount? right, as of right now i pushing toward the t/w's. let me know so that way this week i can come and pick them up. Thats $1900 out the door tax in all? what's the cc's in the combustion chamber.
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Originally posted by hockeyguy713:
Since we're on the topic of trick flow heads, I had a question for my buddys car. It's an 88 lx hatch mostly stock with trick flow twisted wedge heads. He is using the stock length pushrods and when the engine revs to around 3 grand he gets a very harsh vibration coming from the engine. I was wondering if different length pushrods are necessicary for the t/w heads? Also he has had the heads resurfaced many times (4 or 5, I can't remember) due to blown head gaskets. Also he is running crane 1.7 roller rockers.
edit: the harsh shaking / vibration is also when he is in neutral as well as in gear.
Obviosly he knows nothing about engine building so that one is not going to last long.
Did he bother to do any research before slapping the heads on? Yes, TFS recommends slightly longer pushrods- BUT- w/ that many shaves, the only way to be sure is to measure for corect pushrod length. Might even have wiped out the valve guides already.
The shaking sounds like a balance issue- wrong imbalance factor on flywheel or dampner 28oz vs. 50 oz. Or possibly bad dampner.
http://www.fordmuscle.com/archives/2000/03/quicktips/index.shtml
http://www.fordmuscle.com/archives/2000/06/vibrations/index.shtml
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Thanks for the info FasterDamit. I'll be sure to pass it along.
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GOT 50
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Ay .600 lift the 205 afr's flow better on the intake by 4 cf, and on the exhaust 7 cfm. But the ports measure 205 while the T/W's measure 185. Better low speed responce from the TFS heads and more port velocity.
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CDT
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Do those $1900 heads outflow these for $200 less? http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/AFR-SBF-205cc-Cylinder-Heads-FORD-302-351-Mustang-205_W0QQcmdZViewItemQQcategoryZ33617QQitemZ8034839104QQrdZ1QQsspagenameZWD1V I also heard the trickflows are good for low end torque? It kinda clashes with the boost idea but hell what do I know I own a 94 buick "scaper"
yes they do on the intake at every point, could use more exhaust, based on the # but not sure what bore they used as AFR used a 4.125" so you would see a good drop going to 4.030"
CNC-Ported 205cc Twisted Wedge/Track Heat Airflow Chart
Lift Value Intake Flow
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0.100" 71 56
0.200" 144 112
0.300" 220 150
0.400" 270 192
0.500" 299 220
0.600" 316 231
NOTE: Tests conducted at 28" of water (pressure); CNC-profiled chambers; exhaust with 2" pipe
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CDT
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Originally posted by PRIMERED COUPE:
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Originally posted by CDT:
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Originally posted by PRIMERED COUPE:
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Originally posted by CDT:
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Originally posted by CobramanPhil:
Get the cnc'd tw heads directly from trickflow...end of story
why when we sell them for less.
How much do you sell them for??
$1900 out the door
ok cool, now do you have them @ your shop? also thay are stud mount? right, as of right now i pushing toward the t/w's. let me know so that way this week i can come and pick them up. Thats $1900 out the door tax in all? what's the cc's in the combustion chamber.
which ones do you want the 185 or 205's? Tax and all. We have other CNC ported heads for less, but none smog legal
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How much for a set of AFR 205s with just valves.
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