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nickn
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Anyone heard or seen locally a mild heads/cam/intake stock bottom end 302 with a vortech S-trim non-intercooled at 11-12 psi on pump gas making 500 rwhp? I tuned one on my dyno tonight, I couldn't beleive it nor could the owner! lol
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stanger91
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Yep, I don't believe you.
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nickn
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I'll post up some graph for you tommorrow, you can see where is 42s went static, LOL
[ January 28, 2005, 11:44 PM: Message edited by: nickn ]
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jayl
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yeah nick what are thinkin postin this stuff?? first you are a gm guy and dont know fords!! and plus you dont own a "real dyno" ![[Big Grin]](biggrin.gif) ![[Roll Eyes]](rolleyes.gif)
just wait for all the non believers! especially if you tell them your car makes more on motor! haha
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93PONY
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Yeah, that's not unbelievable.
11-12lbs of boost *can* give 200RWHP given a good timing curve with an S-trim. Hell, 8lbs of turbo boost gave my combo right around 200RW. That means without the blower it's a solid 300RWHP 302 combo. What heads? AFR185? Edelbrock VicJr's? TW?
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Nice! How much timing is in it?
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nickn
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I beleive the heads are TFS with a track heat intanke manifold setup,B-cam, oh and get this shorty headers! off road X-pipe of course, through crapmaster mufflers.
Jeff, total timing was 19 on that pull, AFR around 11.2-5, but up top it went lean to 12.5 ![[Eek!]](eek.gif) the motor was about 8.7-8:1 with those heads, no audible detonation to be heard.
12 psi of boost is theoretically a 80% gain at full timing so yea 300 rwhp times 1.8 = 540 rwhp, factor in less then full timing = ~500 rwhp
8 psi of boost is what about 60%? it all makes sense.
I know its all possible, just doesn't happen too often
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SydeWayzSix
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any clue on how many miles the stock bottom end had? (assuming that it wasn't rebuilt)
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JohnB
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Nice numbers! It's possible, no doubt about that.
I'm curious what the Cobra would do...tuned. I'm within 13rwhp of the number, untuned. ![[Wink]](wink.gif)
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gives me hope when i take mine to the Dyno. Nick i think ill check you out when i do that.
Im at 14PSI and ill have a methanol injectino...cant wait to see what it does....just gotta fix this damn HG that the last person fucked up when they tried to fix it.
Mike
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quote:
Originally posted by JohnB:
Nice numbers! It's possible, no doubt about that.
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nickn
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Originally posted by SydeWayzSix:
any clue on how many miles the stock bottom end had? (assuming that it wasn't rebuilt)
motor has over 70k miles I know that much....
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Originally posted by JohnB:
Nice numbers! It's possible, no doubt about that.
I'm curious what the Cobra would do...tuned. I'm within 13rwhp of the number, untuned.
whats your setup?
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Originally posted by 306ci89Vert:
gives me hope when i take mine to the Dyno. Nick i think ill check you out when i do that.
Im at 14PSI and ill have a methanol injectino...cant wait to see what it does....just gotta fix this damn HG that the last person fucked up when they tried to fix it.
Mike
I like methonal its a great way to replace a intercooler and a excellent source of extra fuel, I tried for years to talk my mustang friends with non intercoolered vortechs to invest in a kit, but they were skeptical. Definitely give me a call, we can talk about your car.
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JohnB
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The combo is as follows:
306, TRW flattops, steel crank (old-azz Calles crank) and re-sized rods w/ ARP hardware throughout. Edelbrock RPM's (2.02's) with a stage 2 port from TEA. TFS stage 1 cam, straight up. Ported Performer intake. 70mm TB, 80mm MAF. 36lb Inj's, full Aeromotive A1000 system. FMS shorty headers. SQ trim pushing 11 pounds. Timing at 7*. On a stock A9L. Nothing fancy. More than 70 passes, god knows how many street "tests" and was daily driven until I put the Welds on it.
And yes, pump gas. ![[burnout]](graemlins/burnout.gif)
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gt40
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Nick
what size injectors? what size maf?
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quote:
Originally posted by nickn:
Anyone heard or seen locally a mild heads/cam/intake stock bottom end 302 with a vortech S-trim non-intercooled at 11-12 psi on pump gas making 500 rwhp? I tuned one on my dyno tonight, I couldn't beleive it nor could the owner! lol
i know of one...but it was not on pump gas...
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nickn
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Originally posted by gt40:
Nick
what size injectors? what size maf?
42s that we were maxing out I beleive, and the maf was a 80-85 C&L
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Originally posted by nickn:
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Originally posted by gt40:
Nick
what size injectors? what size maf?
42s that we were maxing out I beleive, and the maf was a 80-85 C&L
42's should be good for more than that, might want to look into lack of fuel volume making it seem that the injectors were at 100%, just something to think about since 42's have put down quite a bit more power than that
great numbers none the less ![[worship]](graemlins/worship.gif)
pics, dyno graph
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Originally posted by JohnB:
The combo is as follows:
306, TRW flattops, steel crank (old-azz Calles crank) and re-sized rods w/ ARP hardware throughout. Edelbrock RPM's (2.02's) with a stage 2 port from TEA. TFS stage 1 cam, straight up. Ported Performer intake. 70mm TB, 80mm MAF. 36lb Inj's, full Aeromotive A1000 system. FMS shorty headers. SQ trim pushing 11 pounds. Timing at 7*. On a stock A9L. Nothing fancy. More than 70 passes, god knows how many street "tests" and was daily driven until I put the Welds on it.
And yes, pump gas.
wicked ass cobra
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my car is at 433 rwhp right now at 10lbs of boost. 36,000 mile stock shortblock. tfs high ports, f-cam, track heat intake, longtubes, i also have the 42's and they maxed out at 5500. i was told to upgrade the rails and lines and it should easily see 500.
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