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Anyone know or seen any numbers as to how much HP people are getting away with on the stock seasoned cores and if so what year and balance? 50oz? 28.8? roller non roller?

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my friend ran 9.45 at 150 ish?.stock block 408 with 200 shot.

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what kind of power adder

heard of 770rwhp out of a turbo charged 357w build on a 70 block

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Originally posted by 66 AC COBRA:
what kind of power adder


twin turbos

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I've heard that the older windsors are good till like 850hp(flywheel), newer were less like 700 i think [patriot] Build it correctly and dont worry about it

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Originally posted by mustanggt5091:
Build it correctly and dont worry about it

here is the last one I "built correctly" yeah too bad the block couldnt hang

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[ October 18, 2004, 01:25 AM: Message edited by: PunkINa5.SLOW ]

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quote:
Originally posted by PunkINa5.SLOW:
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Originally posted by mustanggt5091:
Build it correctly and dont worry about it

here is the last one I "built correctly" yeah too bad the block couldnt hang

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cant see the pic but you didnt build it right if you didnt use the right block [Big Grin]

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Posts: 2353 | From: Fairfield / Santa Rosa , Ca | Registered: Sep 2001  |  :
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quote:
Originally posted by mustanggt5091:
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Originally posted by PunkINa5.SLOW:
quote:
Originally posted by mustanggt5091:
Build it correctly and dont worry about it

here is the last one I "built correctly" yeah too bad the block couldnt hang

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cant see the pic but you didnt build it right if you didnt use the right block [Big Grin]
well R blocks had just came out and A4s were few and far between at that point.

its not that i dont know anything about building motors ive built over 40 small block dorfs

its just that some blocks can handle more hp than others ive seen stock blocks go into the 9s and then Ive seen stock blocks fail in the 11s blown nitrous and na

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Originally posted by PunkINa5.SLOW:
its just that some blocks can handle more hp than others ive seen stock blocks go into the 9s and then Ive seen stock blocks fail in the 11s blown nitrous and na

exactly, thats why i said build it right and forget about it, some times the motor holds together and runs great, sometimes it dont [Confused] I would go with a older windsor or R block unless you got the cash for a Dart

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I think a rule of thumb is...

hyd-roller late 302's.... 500-550 flywheel HP
hyd-roller late 351w's... 600-650 flywheel HP
early (69-72 ish) 351w's..650-700 flywheel HP

half-filled, an early 351w is definitely 750 flywheel HP capable...


I don't have the catalog in front of me, but the Ford motorsports A-351w bare block (2 bolt) is the equivalent (yet roller capable) of the early 69-72 style 351w, and lists the HP capacity... I'm thinking it said 650 HP.

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thanx guys

if it makes 550hp with afr 185s and two turbos ill be happy

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