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Originally posted by BURNOUT50:
This is a good thing that Hopkins is bringing this up, it'll force Mayweather to sign a future fight with Pacquaio.

lol Last time I heard from Hopkins was when he was calling MMA gay

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lXLwxbaYqrM

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Originally posted by Nastysvt:
just an attempt to get pac an mayweather fire started..doesnt matter what color you are, everyone wants to see it happen.. but on styles that African-American fighters have because of being the streets or the inner cities and that they would be succesful in a fight against pac. would about all the Hispanic fighters, and the guys from europe?

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just an attempt to get pac an mayweather fire started..doesnt matter what color you are, everyone wants to see it happen.. but on styles that African-American fighters have because of being the streets or the inner cities and that they would be succesful in a fight against pac. would about all the Hispanic fighters, and the guys from europe?

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Most not all Latino fighters have the same come straight forward style. They don't use very much movement and alot of them are not that "fast".. that does not mean that style can"t be successful per say. It's just tailor made to lose against Manny pacroid. You see when Erik Morales and Marquez were successful they counter punched and boxed Manny which is why Floyd is tailor made to defeat manny if they fight. Look for Manny to either fight Cotto in a rematch or fight old washed up Shane Moseley next..

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just an attempt to get pac an mayweather fire started..doesnt matter what color you are, everyone wants to see it happen.. but on styles that African-American fighters have because of being the streets or the inner cities and that they would be succesful in a fight against pac. would about all the Hispanic fighters, and the guys from europe?

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Most not all Latino fighters have the same come straight forward style. They don't use very much movement and alot of them are not that "fast".. that does not mean that style can"t be successful per say. It's just tailor made to lose against Manny pacroid. You see when Erik Morales and Marquez were successful they counter punched and boxed Manny which is why Floyd is tailor made to defeat manny if they fight. Look for Manny to either fight Cotto in a rematch or fight old washed up Shane Moseley next..

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Cotto is slated to fight Margs from what I have been hearing. Manny has a belt that he is gonna relinquish. I personally think Shane can beat Manny. Shane is just slick enough to still pull off the upset. He should not be judged by the Mayweather fight per se. Mayweather makes everyone look bad. Manny has no where to go since Arum is out of Welters and Junior Mids. He wont fight a true 154. He wont go back down to welter. I'd like to see him and Zab personally. Truth be told there is a certain degree of truth to what Bhop is saying. But it is not color related. Manny will not fight a boxer. He will fight stand still straight forward boxers. His opponents were hand picked for a reason.

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Originally posted by Nastysvt:
just an attempt to get pac an mayweather fire started..doesnt matter what color you are, everyone wants to see it happen.. but on styles that African-American fighters have because of being the streets or the inner cities and that they would be succesful in a fight against pac. would about all the Hispanic fighters, and the guys from europe?

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Most not all Latino fighters have the same come straight forward style. They don't use very much movement and alot of them are not that "fast".. that does not mean that style can"t be successful per say. It's just tailor made to lose against Manny pacroid. You see when Erik Morales and Marquez were successful they counter punched and boxed Manny which is why Floyd is tailor made to defeat manny if they fight. Look for Manny to either fight Cotto in a rematch or fight old washed up Shane Moseley next..

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Cotto is slated to fight Margs from what I have been hearing. Manny has a belt that he is gonna relinquish. I personally think Shane can beat Manny. Shane is just slick enough to still pull off the upset. He should not be judged by the Mayweather fight per se. Mayweather makes everyone look bad. Manny has no where to go since Arum is out of Welters and Junior Mids. He wont fight a true 154. He wont go back down to welter. I'd like to see him and Zab personally. Truth be told there is a certain degree of truth to what Bhop is saying. But it is not color related. Manny will not fight a boxer. He will fight stand still straight forward boxers. His opponents were hand picked for a reason.

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Zab has no chin and would get layed out. Moseley is to old. Moseley's ONLY chance is to either box and counter punch him (something he rarely does) or Bully him into the ropes and try to steamroll him. and look for an early K.O. Moseley is only good for about 4 rounds now anyway. if the fight stays in the center of the ring Shane is gonna get picked apart. a few years ago I would say Shane had a chance but now Shanes chances are slim and none and it looks like slim just left town...

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Originally posted by 1sicmaro:
i like how some people say manny will not fight a true 154 pounder, but fail to realize marg came in at 167 and manny at 144, and why does this turn in 2 a race thing saying he never fought a true black fighter... who cares he has fought anyone and everyone put in front of him and as far as we all know hasnt ducked any fight. the "hand" picked fights i think were to just keep the ring rust off in case he does fight mayweather which i dont care who wins i just want to see a good fight. and besides the "hand" picked fights werent with any fighters who werent known or good fighters.marg, clottley, cotto, de la hoya and even over rated hatton were supposed to be top notch oppenents but manny found flaws in all of them. lets just all hope we get to see a pac vs mayweather fight be4 one of them is out of there prime

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i like how some people say manny will not fight a true 154 pounder, but fail to realize marg came in at 167 and manny at 144, and why does this turn in 2 a race thing saying he never fought a true black fighter... who cares he has fought anyone and everyone put in front of him and as far as we all know hasnt ducked any fight. the "hand" picked fights i think were to just keep the ring rust off in case he does fight mayweather which i dont care who wins i just want to see a good fight. and besides the "hand" picked fights werent with any fighters who werent known or good fighters.marg, clottley, cotto, de la hoya and even over rated hatton were supposed to be top notch oppenents but manny found flaws in all of them. lets just all hope we get to see a pac vs mayweather fight be4 one of them is out of there prime

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You do not watch boxing evidentually. They fought for the 154 title. Neither weighed 154 at the official weigh in. Neither fighter was ranked or even been ranked in that weight class. Neither figher ever fought in that weight class. Manny was offered the fight when then champ Sergio Martinez had the belt but he declined. Sergio vacated due to a rule he couldnt have the belt in 2 weight classes, then all of a sudden Manny wants to fight for it. Clottey fought Zab, whom is a faster southpaw than Manny Harder puncher than Manny and a better boxer than Manny. That fight was supposed to be better than it was. Clottey refused to throw a punch (Clottey is Arums as well). Cotto, normall a volume puncher whom works the body relentless. Threw like 60% less punches than he has ever thrown (Again Arums fighter). Margarito, in a normal world would have never got this shot. He looked terrible in his last 2 fights and got KO'd prior to the suspension. As far as better fights out there there are plenty. Besides Mayweather, when he fought Clottey whom he starved down to 145 there was Mosely and every one at Junior Welter. As for 154 there was Sergio, P-Dub, Pavlik, Strum...

Ultimately Manny did beat what was in front of him. But most pure fans will see through the bullsh*t with Manny. His achievements are not that great. And he is as much at fault as Manny is for a fight not happening. Manny wants to fight at welter but demnand Mayweather step in the ring at less than the Welterweight limit plus pay 10 million for every pound over 145? Now that is a unreasonable request. And you know why Manny is doing that? Because Marquez tried it to the tune of 10k per pound over the welter limit coming in the ring. Mayweather absorded the 60k fine and went on to outclass, outbox and embarass a fighter that in the real world beat Manny. So Manny figures he will starve plus hit Mayweather in the pockets since he probably wont hit him in the ring. But most Manny fans do not know this either.

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N8 the H8! Never fails to hate on Manny!

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Originally posted by Nastysvt:
just an attempt to get pac an mayweather fire started..doesnt matter what color you are, everyone wants to see it happen.. but on styles that African-American fighters have because of being the streets or the inner cities and that they would be succesful in a fight against pac. would about all the Hispanic fighters, and the guys from europe?

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Most not all Latino fighters have the same come straight forward style. They don't use very much movement and alot of them are not that "fast".. that does not mean that style can"t be successful per say. It's just tailor made to lose against Manny pacroid. You see when Erik Morales and Marquez were successful they counter punched and boxed Manny which is why Floyd is tailor made to defeat manny if they fight. Look for Manny to either fight Cotto in a rematch or fight old washed up Shane Moseley next..

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Cotto is slated to fight Margs from what I have been hearing. Manny has a belt that he is gonna relinquish. I personally think Shane can beat Manny. Shane is just slick enough to still pull off the upset. He should not be judged by the Mayweather fight per se. Mayweather makes everyone look bad. Manny has no where to go since Arum is out of Welters and Junior Mids. He wont fight a true 154. He wont go back down to welter. I'd like to see him and Zab personally. Truth be told there is a certain degree of truth to what Bhop is saying. But it is not color related. Manny will not fight a boxer. He will fight stand still straight forward boxers. His opponents were hand picked for a reason.

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Zab has no chin and would get layed out. Moseley is to old. Moseley's ONLY chance is to either box and counter punch him (something he rarely does) or Bully him into the ropes and try to steamroll him. and look for an early K.O. Moseley is only good for about 4 rounds now anyway. if the fight stays in the center of the ring Shane is gonna get picked apart. a few years ago I would say Shane had a chance but now Shanes chances are slim and none and it looks like slim just left town...

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But Zab has heart. And I am not 100% confident in Mannys power. Truthfully Manny has not showed me much. Since Marquez he fought 2 shadows and 3 hand picked opponents. I want to see him defend or attempt to unify the 154 title. That he actually does not deserve. What happened to the days where boxers wanted to be king of the hill in a division? But alas Manny will not return to Welter. There are no other fights out there for him. Because self admittedly. He is only fighting for economics at this point. Same as Mayweather. Both fighters need to GTFO of boxing.

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lol this is some funny ass shit.. fight a true 154.. pac can't even make the 150 catch weight for the 154 fight.. on fight day he gave up 17 pounds... but he needs to fight someone even bigger to prove what everyone already knows.. best pound for pound fighter out there... people forget he started fighting at what 104 or 108.. and for all the dumb ass people saying his roided.. really he can't make a 150 catch weight but is roiding out.. and this whole fighting for a belt neither one of them was going to defend is a bullshit stunt... but that is boxing nowadays..

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i like how some people say manny will not fight a true 154 pounder, but fail to realize marg came in at 167 and manny at 144, and why does this turn in 2 a race thing saying he never fought a true black fighter... who cares he has fought anyone and everyone put in front of him and as far as we all know hasnt ducked any fight. the "hand" picked fights i think were to just keep the ring rust off in case he does fight mayweather which i dont care who wins i just want to see a good fight. and besides the "hand" picked fights werent with any fighters who werent known or good fighters.marg, clottley, cotto, de la hoya and even over rated hatton were supposed to be top notch oppenents but manny found flaws in all of them. lets just all hope we get to see a pac vs mayweather fight be4 one of them is out of there prime

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You do not watch boxing evidentually. They fought for the 154 title. Neither weighed 154 at the official weigh in. Neither fighter was ranked or even been ranked in that weight class. Neither figher ever fought in that weight class. Manny was offered the fight when then champ Sergio Martinez had the belt but he declined. Sergio vacated due to a rule he couldnt have the belt in 2 weight classes, then all of a sudden Manny wants to fight for it. Clottey fought Zab, whom is a faster southpaw than Manny Harder puncher than Manny and a better boxer than Manny. That fight was supposed to be better than it was. Clottey refused to throw a punch (Clottey is Arums as well). Cotto, normall a volume puncher whom works the body relentless. Threw like 60% less punches than he has ever thrown (Again Arums fighter). Margarito, in a normal world would have never got this shot. He looked terrible in his last 2 fights and got KO'd prior to the suspension. As far as better fights out there there are plenty. Besides Mayweather, when he fought Clottey whom he starved down to 145 there was Mosely and every one at Junior Welter. As for 154 there was Sergio, P-Dub, Pavlik, Strum...

Ultimately Manny did beat what was in front of him. But most pure fans will see through the bullsh*t with Manny. His achievements are not that great. And he is as much at fault as Manny is for a fight not happening. Manny wants to fight at welter but demnand Mayweather step in the ring at less than the Welterweight limit plus pay 10 million for every pound over 145? Now that is a unreasonable request. And you know why Manny is doing that? Because Marquez tried it to the tune of 10k per pound over the welter limit coming in the ring. Mayweather absorded the 60k fine and went on to outclass, outbox and embarass a fighter that in the real world beat Manny. So Manny figures he will starve plus hit Mayweather in the pockets since he probably wont hit him in the ring. But most Manny fans do not know this either.

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lol your so funny n8 i swear... everyone wants manny to fight guys that out weigh him by 20+ pounds.. to do what prove his is the best at beatting bigger guys? and if you knew boxing so well..you would know, gayweather said the same thing pac did about cotto.. cotto has no will to go in and let them fly.. he could but doesn't... both fighter seen this and beat him because of it..

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i like how some people say manny will not fight a true 154 pounder, but fail to realize marg came in at 167 and manny at 144, and why does this turn in 2 a race thing saying he never fought a true black fighter... who cares he has fought anyone and everyone put in front of him and as far as we all know hasnt ducked any fight. the "hand" picked fights i think were to just keep the ring rust off in case he does fight mayweather which i dont care who wins i just want to see a good fight. and besides the "hand" picked fights werent with any fighters who werent known or good fighters.marg, clottley, cotto, de la hoya and even over rated hatton were supposed to be top notch oppenents but manny found flaws in all of them. lets just all hope we get to see a pac vs mayweather fight be4 one of them is out of there prime

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You do not watch boxing evidentually. They fought for the 154 title. Neither weighed 154 at the official weigh in. Neither fighter was ranked or even been ranked in that weight class. Neither figher ever fought in that weight class. Manny was offered the fight when then champ Sergio Martinez had the belt but he declined. Sergio vacated due to a rule he couldnt have the belt in 2 weight classes, then all of a sudden Manny wants to fight for it. Clottey fought Zab, whom is a faster southpaw than Manny Harder puncher than Manny and a better boxer than Manny. That fight was supposed to be better than it was. Clottey refused to throw a punch (Clottey is Arums as well). Cotto, normall a volume puncher whom works the body relentless. Threw like 60% less punches than he has ever thrown (Again Arums fighter). Margarito, in a normal world would have never got this shot. He looked terrible in his last 2 fights and got KO'd prior to the suspension. As far as better fights out there there are plenty. Besides Mayweather, when he fought Clottey whom he starved down to 145 there was Mosely and every one at Junior Welter. As for 154 there was Sergio, P-Dub, Pavlik, Strum...

Ultimately Manny did beat what was in front of him. But most pure fans will see through the bullsh*t with Manny. His achievements are not that great. And he is as much at fault as Manny is for a fight not happening. Manny wants to fight at welter but demnand Mayweather step in the ring at less than the Welterweight limit plus pay 10 million for every pound over 145? Now that is a unreasonable request. And you know why Manny is doing that? Because Marquez tried it to the tune of 10k per pound over the welter limit coming in the ring. Mayweather absorded the 60k fine and went on to outclass, outbox and embarass a fighter that in the real world beat Manny. So Manny figures he will starve plus hit Mayweather in the pockets since he probably wont hit him in the ring. But most Manny fans do not know this either.

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lol your so funny n8 i swear... everyone wants manny to fight guys that out weigh him by 20+ pounds.. to do what prove his is the best at beatting bigger guys? and if you knew boxing so well..you would know, gayweather said the same thing pac did about cotto.. cotto has no will to go in and let them fly.. he could but doesn't... both fighter seen this and beat him because of it..

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