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Originally posted by Hozr:
Well, since i 'm sitting here a little bored I started reading about our new presidents agenda as found on <a href="http://www.Whitehouse.gov/agenda" target="_blank" rel="nofollow">www.Whitehouse.gov/agenda</a>

Since the topic came up last year regarding the rush on weapons and such and why all the fuss/hurry to buy them up I figured I would share this with you all. Some said it would never happen, well here it is.

Address Gun Violence in Cities: Obama and Biden would repeal the Tiahrt Amendment, which restricts the ability of local law enforcement to access important gun trace information, and give police officers across the nation the tools they need to solve gun crimes and fight the illegal arms trade. Obama and Biden also favor commonsense measures that respect the Second Amendment rights of gun owners, while keeping guns away from children and from criminals. They support closing the gun show loophole and making guns in this country childproof. They also support making the expired federal Assault Weapons Ban permanent.

Well, there is one Right out the window. What's next, freedom of speech? Oh, that's gone too, anyone that speaks against the messiah gets silenced as well.

Fuck, here we go...and it's only day 1

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Originally posted by JohnB:
They support it...doesn't mean it's gonna happen.


And why exactly does someone need a AR-15? Look up the expired ban...it's pretty specific in what's legal/illegal.

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Originally posted by N8:
I am gonna borrow these from Don for a bit

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pritty fucking stupid thing to be crying about to be honest guns are a hoby... back when they made the amendment it was used for pertection not just to have one cause i feel like shooting a gun... get over it

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Originally posted by liftedF150:

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I am gonna borrow these from Don for a bit

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pritty fucking stupid thing to be crying about to be honest guns are a hoby... back when they made the amendment it was used for pertection not just to have one cause i feel like shooting a gun... get over it

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IMO, owning a gun has everything to do with the 1st amendment and America itself as a nation. Our founding fathers made the 2nd amendment to defend the 1st. Throughout history, citizens that were unable to defend themselves were vulnerable and easily controlled. Our country's government is based on the system of checks and balances, and well, I believe the 2nd amendment is part of that. Keep in mind also, our country is relatively young.. only 200+ years? Who knows what could happen in the near future. God forbid America elects a Hitler one day - but if it does happen, at least citizens would be able to gather a militia to do something about it. The 2nd amendment wasn't primarily created for us because we "feel like shooting a gun."

Just my .02

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Originally posted by fr5.0:
here's the real question, what do you need to be free for??????? just know that it wont stop at assault rifles, when they win one they will push for more. and this my friends is how democrats work, good luck to all of you hopefully we die in 2012!!!!!!

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Originally posted by 50 Deep:
I don't think the right to bear arms should be compared to freedom of speech & religion. The right to bear arms affects a niche group of people as opposed to religion & speech.

Not only that but there are many amendments & laws that were obviously dated to the times. It doesn't apear likely in todays U.S. That anoyne would honestly need certain types of weapons the same way we did when the country was in civil unrest.

Also if im reading the quote correctly they are imposing stiffer regulations & banning certain types of guns, not all rights to carry weapons. If u ask me the less weapons on the street the better.

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Originally posted by Fostang:
John B why do you need a supercharger on your car or a bigger motor??

Maybe you should just give me those since a stock 302 will get the car moving down the road anyways.

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I'm not into guns at all but they can start banning anything, modifying cars is already a target and its only getting worse.

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It's time for the country to do what Obama's own father did.
Abandon him.

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Originally posted by fr5.0:
here's the real question, what do you need to be free for???????

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Originally posted by Pittsburg Mustang Owner:
lol guns aint that serious.

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Give me a break, I've been fighting for your freedom longer than most of this board have had the thought of owning a Mustang, nevermind putting more rounds through a M16 than most of you could ever fathom.

It was a question. No one "needs" a AR-15, it's a want...and yes, a right...but in no way a need. The BS of your right to bear arms is being taken away is an extreme. I am all for the right, as well as the right that the 2nd amendment affords law-biding citizens; I too own a firearm.

It's simple...like any other hobby, all it takes is a few whack-jobs to ruin it for everyone else, thus taking steps (implementing laws) to further remove your ability to obtain said weapons.

Quite obvious that very few here took the time to read the expired ban. It specifically states what is/is not legal and the guidelines on what it applies to. Says nothing about your right to bear arms, nor does it state that you cannot buy them.
Yes, the ban is a joke; only two crimes have been commited with automatic weapons (or semi-autos that have been converted) since 1934 (when the automatic weapon ban was passed)...and one of those crimes was by a police officer, the other was the 1997 Hollywood shootout. As stated above, it only takes a few bad apples, a couple of Democrats on Captiol Hill, and a bill to be passed to screw it up for all.

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pritty fucking stupid thing to be crying about to be honest guns are a hoby... back when they made the amendment it was used for pertection not just to have one cause i feel like shooting a gun... get over it

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