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If you've met me would you think this?

Some dude at work called me this last week. I let it go for a min. but this is the 3rd or 4th time he's said something like this.

It's gone far enough now to reach HR, my boss, his boss, god knows who else. When should I get a lawer to step in. HR has said this guy and myself have been unprofessional. I've done everything I was told to in our harrasment training and now I'm being unprofessional. So already HR is against me.

Any lawyers here? This is a hostile work environment. [Big Grin]

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quote:
Originally posted by Jdub07:
If you've met me would you think this?

Some dude at work called me this last week. I let it go for a min. but this is the 3rd or 4th time he's said something like this.

It's gone far enough now to reach HR, my boss, his boss, god knows who else. When should I get a lawer to step in. HR has said this guy and myself have been unprofessional. I've done everything I was told to in our harrasment training and now I'm being unprofessional. So already HR is against me.

Any lawyers here? This is a hostile work environment. [Big Grin]

is this the guy you left at lunch cuz he wouldnt put his sealtbelt on?? LOL,, damn your co-workers suck!

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quote:
Originally posted by Jdub07:
If you've met me would you think this?

Some dude at work called me this last week. I let it go for a min. but this is the 3rd or 4th time he's said something like this.

It's gone far enough now to reach HR, my boss, his boss, god knows who else. When should I get a lawer to step in. HR has said this guy and myself have been unprofessional. I've done everything I was told to in our harrasment training and now I'm being unprofessional. So already HR is against me.

Any lawyers here? This is a hostile work environment. [Big Grin]

Question is, have you done anything that could have portrayed you as a white racist skinhead?
Have you attack or insulted his ethnicity in anyway? could he allege grounds for his conduct, however improper it might be? Does he have witnesses. Do you have witnesses?

People don't just call other people that unless they perceive it.. or they are total dicks and trying to get you in trouble. In any case, it seems that YOU got HR involved and it has now somehow backfired. We are missing some info here.

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I hate when people scream racism in California, they want to see racism go to Texas, thats why I dont live there anymore.

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This is a different guy than the seatbelt guy hahahahaha actually that guy and I are on talking terms and he's apologized and what not.

This other guy is Pilipino. He says DUUUuuuuuuuuuuuude. Hella loud. Sounds funny so I laugh. Everyfuckinbody laughs. One day I say Duuuuuude in the same exact voice. hahahahah that shit is funny and I don't care who you are.

So one day he's says "shut up bitch" when I said Duuuuuuude. I was like whoa...okay fuck it. Never said anything again. That isn't racial at all. I just said dude. So fuck him. I didn't say hey this is Max listen,..."DUUUUuuuuude". Just said it like him. For all anyone knows thats how I say it and he's mockin me. So I can't see that as a basis for being racial. Other than that NOTHING

But then every time I'm talking to someone and he comes in the room he makes white guy remarks. Asks me questions about nothing important then before I answer says, "is it because your white?" or "redneck" or fuck knows what else. One day he walked up to me and asked strait up, "you a racist?" I was like WTF????

At work I make zero racial remarks...now outside of work, shit I've been known to talk like 7-11 slurpy servers and shit like that but at work I've never said anything against color, race, religion.

Guy will tell me to shut up all the time while I'm in mid sentence. So far he's lucky I haven't beat the shit out of him. Every time though there are NO witnesses. I think one time there was and I need to talk to that guy to ask him if he remembers hearing this Max guy say anything like that to me in front of him.

but for the most part its a he said he said. NO one at work likes this guy much and he's always making trouble and causes a fuss over petty shit. He's tried to place a formal complaint against me but I'd already did that last week on him. So now HR thinks we are being a couple bitches but like I said...We had a harassment training here at work a month ago and so I followed "protocol". Why pay someone thousands of dollars to come to our building and talk about all the different harassments that occur at work then not want me to follow through with it?

My boss is on my side as usual and his boss is quiet as usual and HR is dragging their feet as usual. But I always here you need a lawyer right away when racial shit hits the fan...jobs can depend on it. And if my employer doesn't remedy my hostile work environment they can be held financially liable and be sued.

I'll take a free lunch but not looking to, nor looking to make make huge mess of things. All I told my boss was to ask him to don't ever talk to me. Simple...but now its this big fuckin mess.

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Dunno you didnt come across as racist to me when I met you. But you may wanna holla at him one to one before you guys escalate it. You could have said something inadvertantly that lends to his suspicion. Usually harassment that cannot be proven either direction ends with both parties being removed. If they remove him without merit then thats a worngful termination suit. So best bet is to can the both of ya.

Get a tape recorder and tape him.

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There is no reasoning with him or talking to him. I've never met anyone like this so I can't even compare him to anyone. He's like a paranoid skitsOfrantic mouse that his high on coke. He talks so fast, says random shit that makes no sense.

I feel sorry for him.

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quote:
Originally posted by Jdub07:
This is a different guy than the seatbelt guy hahahahaha actually that guy and I are on talking terms and he's apologized and what not.

This other guy is Pilipino. He says DUUUuuuuuuuuuuuude. Hella loud. Sounds funny so I laugh. Everyfuckinbody laughs. One day I say Duuuuuude in the same exact voice. hahahahah that shit is funny and I don't care who you are.

So one day he's says "shut up bitch" when I said Duuuuuuude. I was like whoa...okay fuck it. Never said anything again. That isn't racial at all. I just said dude. So fuck him. I didn't say hey this is Max listen,..."DUUUUuuuuude". Just said it like him. For all anyone knows thats how I say it and he's mockin me. So I can't see that as a basis for being racial. Other than that NOTHING

But then every time I'm talking to someone and he comes in the room he makes white guy remarks. Asks me questions about nothing important then before I answer says, "is it because your white?" or "redneck" or fuck knows what else. One day he walked up to me and asked strait up, "you a racist?" I was like WTF????

At work I make zero racial remarks...now outside of work, shit I've been known to talk like 7-11 slurpy servers and shit like that but at work I've never said anything against color, race, religion.

Guy will tell me to shut up all the time while I'm in mid sentence. So far he's lucky I haven't beat the shit out of him. Every time though there are NO witnesses. I think one time there was and I need to talk to that guy to ask him if he remembers hearing this Max guy say anything like that to me in front of him.

but for the most part its a he said he said. NO one at work likes this guy much and he's always making trouble and causes a fuss over petty shit. He's tried to place a formal complaint against me but I'd already did that last week on him. So now HR thinks we are being a couple bitches but like I said...We had a harassment training here at work a month ago and so I followed "protocol". Why pay someone thousands of dollars to come to our building and talk about all the different harassments that occur at work then not want me to follow through with it?

My boss is on my side as usual and his boss is quiet as usual and HR is dragging their feet as usual. But I always here you need a lawyer right away when racial shit hits the fan...jobs can depend on it. And if my employer doesn't remedy my hostile work environment they can be held financially liable and be sued.

I'll take a free lunch but not looking to, nor looking to make make huge mess of things. All I told my boss was to ask him to don't ever talk to me. Simple...but now its this big fuckin mess.

Let me ask you this, is he a F.O.B. or do you think he was born here in the U.S.? The only reason I can think of is when he is saying "DUUUUuuuuude" to you and if he has an accent saying it and you laugh and everybody else laughs, he probably took offense to it and thats why he called you racist. No reason to call you racist based on that.

Just tell him if he stops calling you racist, you guys can kick it and eat BALOT together!

Fuckin' Flips always causin' trouble in the work place. J/K, I'm a Flip too [Big Grin] [Big Grin] [Big Grin]

[ August 06, 2007, 07:55 PM: Message edited by: ilikeV8torque ]

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Do you have a shaved head and is your boss white?...lol jk. i like fobs..they're funny as hell...im not one but i can relate. Hella funny when i saw "DDDUUUUUUUuuuuuude", one of my closest friends is a fob and he hella says that.
Too bad I dont work with you guys...i probably could have squashed this shit already [Big Grin]

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I just went to HR whenever this bitch at my work gave me shit and they eventually had a meeting with us and I got to go to a diffrent department (in the part of the plant with A/C! [Big Grin] )

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if he's got an accent then he's probably offended and believes you are mocking him.
I've got an accent and if i sense that someone is imitating my accent and making fun then i'll be quick to tell them whose dick to suck.
However if they are my friends and whatnot then everything is allowed. [Whoo Whooooo!]

Good luck man, hope you get a witness just to back you up. [Whoo Whooooo!]

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hr will more than likely side with the minority because they are a so called "protected class" and its less headache for them to give you the shaft. id probably lawyer up if you really like this job.
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quote:
Originally posted by racsirx:
I hate when people scream racism in California, they want to see racism go to Texas, thats why I dont live there anymore.

Texas is hardly the KKK capital of the US LOL
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quote:
Originally posted by Jmir018:
if he's got an accent then he's probably offended and believes you are mocking him.
I've got an accent and if i sense that someone is imitating my accent and making fun then i'll be quick to tell them whose dick to suck.
However if they are my friends and whatnot then everything is allowed. [Whoo Whooooo!]

Good luck man, hope you get a witness just to back you up. [Whoo Whooooo!]

what are u? like what the accent? mexican, asian?

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Go talk to a layer that gives free council see what he says. Sounds like you are doing everything you can.

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I shave my head now that I have to wear a helmet when riding. But I've shaved my head plenty of times. In any case he could have taken offence to duuuuuude... It's more like Hey DUUUUUuuude. Shit is funny I'm sorry. Thats like watching someone fall down...you laugh at that. I do anyway. So I said dude.

I'm the minority. There are 100 people in our building and 3 white people. We'll see what happends tomomrrow I guess everyone will be havin a chat. I just shaved my head too extra short for tomorrow! hahahaha fuck him. We were cool for a while or I thought we were but I guess he just wanted to take shit to far.

feels like grade school bs

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I'm filipino and that duuuuuuuuuuuuuuuude sounds irritating as hell. Just please don't stereotype this biatch with us others... [patriot]
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quote:
Originally posted by Jdub07:
This is a different guy than the seatbelt guy hahahahaha actually that guy and I are on talking terms and he's apologized and what not.

This other guy is Pilipino. He says DUUUuuuuuuuuuuuude. Hella loud. Sounds funny so I laugh. Everyfuckinbody laughs. One day I say Duuuuuude in the same exact voice. hahahahah that shit is funny and I don't care who you are.

So one day he's says "shut up bitch" when I said Duuuuuuude. I was like whoa...okay fuck it. Never said anything again. That isn't racial at all. I just said dude. So fuck him. I didn't say hey this is Max listen,..."DUUUUuuuuude". Just said it like him. For all anyone knows thats how I say it and he's mockin me. So I can't see that as a basis for being racial. Other than that NOTHING

But then every time I'm talking to someone and he comes in the room he makes white guy remarks. Asks me questions about nothing important then before I answer says, "is it because your white?" or "redneck" or fuck knows what else. One day he walked up to me and asked strait up, "you a racist?" I was like WTF????

At work I make zero racial remarks...now outside of work, shit I've been known to talk like 7-11 slurpy servers and shit like that but at work I've never said anything against color, race, religion.

Guy will tell me to shut up all the time while I'm in mid sentence. So far he's lucky I haven't beat the shit out of him. Every time though there are NO witnesses. I think one time there was and I need to talk to that guy to ask him if he remembers hearing this Max guy say anything like that to me in front of him.

but for the most part its a he said he said. NO one at work likes this guy much and he's always making trouble and causes a fuss over petty shit. He's tried to place a formal complaint against me but I'd already did that last week on him. So now HR thinks we are being a couple bitches but like I said...We had a harassment training here at work a month ago and so I followed "protocol". Why pay someone thousands of dollars to come to our building and talk about all the different harassments that occur at work then not want me to follow through with it?

My boss is on my side as usual and his boss is quiet as usual and HR is dragging their feet as usual. But I always here you need a lawyer right away when racial shit hits the fan...jobs can depend on it. And if my employer doesn't remedy my hostile work environment they can be held financially liable and be sued.

I'll take a free lunch but not looking to, nor looking to make make huge mess of things. All I told my boss was to ask him to don't ever talk to me. Simple...but now its this big fuckin mess.

Sounds like this guy is just a piece of shit, who has personal issues and is bringing them out on you.

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are you scared of this fool? i would have told him to shut the f|_|ck up. when someone asks the dumb @$$ "are you racist" question...they are either trying to push your buttons or trying to start stuff. if you need 3 300lb big bald white guys, let me know.

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quote:
Originally posted by andyman_2k01:
are you scared of this fool? i would have told him to shut the f|_|ck up. when someone asks the dumb @$$ "are you racist" question...they are either trying to push your buttons or trying to start stuff. if you need 3 300lb big bald white guys, let me know.

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1 word that describes this guy.....SHABS, flips and shabs dont mix to well together....

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