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Posted by WILDTHANG (Member # 4441) on :
 
Anyone recognize these guys? The silver Cobra looks familiar. I was looking at some picks on GotBlueMilk of the last HOD event. A couple good two feet in shots. I was just wondering what happened(besides the obvious)?









[ February 07, 2006, 02:58 AM: Message edited by: WILDTHANG ]
 

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Posted by mtbaughs (Member # 4052) on :
 
Haha yep that was my buddy Kevin in his '03 cobra getting a little carried away. I missed that event.
 

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Posted by 1Sicgt (Member # 714) on :
 
Ya looks like both over cooked it. OOOOOPPS.
 

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Posted by 04Z06 (Member # 2309) on :
 
What?? A mustang over cook a corner, can't happen. I love those pictures. I can totally relate to them. Just a little too much gas (of course a littel too much was anything more than touching the pedal) in the Cobra around the corner and the tires are free. The good ole' days.

I am going to have to rent an 05 and take it out to see how they handle at Thunderhill. Hmmm.. I think I saw a GT at an Eterprise not too long ago. I will have to double check that.

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Posted by WILDTHANG (Member # 4441) on :
 
You know the funny thing is, both cars had instructors in the passenger seats. Some times too much talking and feedback can keep you from focusing. I was just wondering if this was the case or maybe the instructor telling them to try a different line. My 1st time around Thill I took an instructor with me to give me some feedback on the track. The guy accually grabbed the wheel from the passenger seat while I was on track to force me into a line. I thought this was very strange and not very smart. I told the guy to let go and that he could use his words instead! Just wondering if something similar could have happened there?
 

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Posted by 1Sicgt (Member # 714) on :
 
You know that happened to me when I was at Reno the first time. I told the instructor not to ever touch my wheel again, jerking it out of my hands could only cuase us to loose control. After that, they didn't try to grab it again.
 

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Posted by 1FAST89GT (Member # 5071) on :
 
cooked corners
 

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Posted by t top freak (Member # 6269) on :
 

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Originally posted by 1Sicgt:
You know that happened to me when I was at Reno the first time. I told the instructor not to ever touch my wheel again, jerking it out of my hands could only cuase us to loose control. After that, they didn't try to grab it again.

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Originally posted by t top freak:

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Originally posted by 1Sicgt:
You know that happened to me when I was at Reno the first time. I told the instructor not to ever touch my wheel again, jerking it out of my hands could only cuase us to loose control. After that, they didn't try to grab it again.

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wait
you were driving and he grabbed the wheel? if that was me no words would have been said, just repeated fist to sack contact.
grab the wheel, thats beyond retarded

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Some schools and instructors believe the best way to show the driver the correct line is to show them. I was asked by another instructor once if it was ok and I said no. But this one she just reached over and tried to move the wheel. Big thing I also explained to her, she races a miata, not a heavy stang. We have different driving lines then they do. This was also 3 years ago. It might be different now.

I know I am working on the qualifictaions to be an official instructor, and the guy I have been working with, I never grabbed his steering wheel. I think there is too many possibilities to make the situation really bad if you do. It's better to talk and discuss, even pointing gestures works better.
 

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Posted by Wolfie351 (Member # 651) on :
 
When I was at Bondurant, the instructor grabbed my wheel on many occasions. Very disconserting at first, but not after a bit of trust developed. It also helped that I wasn't driving my own car either!

A LOT of Mustang owners would learn quite a bit if they followed a Miata for a few laps. They are one of the best cars to learn how to correctly drive a road course because you can't rely on horsepower for exit speed if you take a corner wrong. I would treat a Miata owner's line advice as gold. Not that I would ever buy one though, Mustangs are a helluva lot more fun!
 

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Posted by 88DroptopGT (Member # 2535) on :
 
Cool pics. Looks like those guys are having fun!
 

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Posted by Spitfiremk24 (Member # 5698) on :
 
the best driving instructer I ever had was one who did no speaking while we were driving, only spoke during the debriefing.

While we were driving, he only used a few very comprehensible hand motions using both hands to signal when to turn in, brake, and when to let the car settle. It was a little awkward because I found myself watching and waiting for his signals out of my periferal vision instead of learning when to do it myself, but he was a great instructor, I recomend those methods.

if an instructor grabbed my wheel, I would let them do their thing, then as soon as possible, safely and calmly pull off course and stop, look them square in the eye and say, "that is NOT ok."
 

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Posted by Spitfiremk24 (Member # 5698) on :
 

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dont let any of the poor-sha airheads see this

no offense, my dad drives a porsche and I love them to death, but some drivers have the tendency to believe they are "ultimate"
 

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Posted by Kevin Booth (Member # 6582) on :
 
The silver '03 is mine and I was driving! It's a very heavily modified open track Cobra (full Griggs, Stoptech, coilovers etc., 450 rwhp -- you name it it's on it) that's a beast on the track. No one else grabbed the wheel....all my fault! The instructor was certainly encouraging me to push it hard (beyond 7/10ths), but I was driving. There are always factors that contribute though: cold morning and cold tires (18" Nitto 555r2s), the red Porsche was way off line and had to decelerate much more than I thought he would to stay on course. I ended up with 4 flat spotted tires, dirty car, and a short day. You learn from everything! Better in the dirt than in the wall....right!?
 

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Posted by 1Sicgt (Member # 714) on :
 
Yep. At least you know what you did wrong. Worst is when people do that and have no clue!
 

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