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Posted by Wht86drop (Member # 12104) on :
 
How hard Is it to do gears? I just got a 99-01 irs and it needs a diff. Was told I can use my stocker but I've never done gears and I want 355s. Thanks in advance
 
Posted by Tom Renzo (Member # 13165) on :
 
It is complicated and very specialized tools and knowledge are required. But then again you have to start somewhere. Do them with someone with a lot of experience in the assembly and settings.
 
Posted by Wht86drop (Member # 12104) on :
 
Ok how about if I just took my diff from my stock rear end and throw it in? Do I still need to adjust it and whatnot
 
Posted by 87LXblackpearl (Member # 10409) on :
 
It's very easy
 
Posted by Wht86drop (Member # 12104) on :
 
Ill try it and post as I go
 
Posted by red5o (Member # 12651) on :
 
I tryed it and I fu(k up I set the pre load to tight [Big Grin]
 
Posted by Tom Renzo (Member # 13165) on :
 
It is not easy to set up a set of gears. That is why we get them in the shop all the time wining and not set up correctly. Basically you need special tools and procedures as i explained. Pinion preload pinion depth and that is for starters. Then you will need a tun of shims to do the back lash and pinion depth. Easy NOT HAPPENING. Here is just the beginning!!!

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Posted by sleeping stallion (Member # 8162) on :
 
i did mine did alot of research and online on the phone help got it done on a weekends its been 3 months of hard racinf launching and no problems yet
 
Posted by Tom Renzo (Member # 13165) on :
 
It depends what you did? Same ratio and what was the specks on the setup?? Gears need like i said specialized tools and things like pinion depth setters etc. I am not saying it is brain surgery just a lot of experience and setup knowledge. Especially if a set of aftermarket gears are used. Just saying!
 
Posted by Wht86drop (Member # 12104) on :
 
So what do you think about just swapping my diff and pinion from my stocker? Like just drop and go and no gear changing? How much would it cost if I brought someone the pumpkin and some gears to put in?
 
Posted by Tom Renzo (Member # 13165) on :
 
Hard to say as how much it costs. We charge 110 an hour in my shop. Normally a diff runs anywhere from 400-600 bucks for labor depending what you want.
 
Posted by Wht86drop (Member # 12104) on :
 
I have the gears and everything would be stripped down so I would just have everything for bolt on. But if i can just bolt in my stock diff to the pumpkin with no gear changes, would I still need an adjustment?
 
Posted by red5o (Member # 12651) on :
 
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Originally posted by Wht86drop:
I have the gears and everything would be stripped down so I would just have everything for bolt on. But if i can just bolt in my stock diff to the pumpkin with no gear changes, would I still need an adjustment?

Yes because if you are wanting to swap differential internals you have to take out the pinion gear from Ther you would have to buy another shim kit you can not use your old one set yore preload and adjust the clearance between the ring and pinion gear Ther only so much toLerance allowed there I agree with tom renzo I tryed myself and failed there more to it then just slaping on some gears not to descurage you... But hey try it out do some research that's why we are in cafords to help each other out and if all else fails take it to a shop or a pro [patriot]

[ 2013-10-22, 11:33 PM: Message edited by: red5o ]
 
Posted by Wht86drop (Member # 12104) on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by red5o:
quote:
Originally posted by Wht86drop:
I have the gears and everything would be stripped down so I would just have everything for bolt on. But if i can just bolt in my stock diff to the pumpkin with no gear changes, would I still need an adjustment?

Yes because if you are wanting to swap differential internals you have to take out the pinion gear from Ther you would have to buy another shim kit you can not use your old one set yore preload and adjust the clearance between the ring and pinion gear Ther only so much toLerance allowed there I agree with tom renzo I tryed myself and failed there more to it then just slaping on some gears not to descurage you... But hey try it out do some research that's why we are in cafords to help each other out and if all else fails take it to a shop or a pro [patriot]
Ill do some research on it and hopefully it goes well. Thanks for the input
 
Posted by Tom Renzo (Member # 13165) on :
 
86 if you need info just ask. I have built hundreds of axles including the new independent front axles and tuns of swing axles in my day. You will need a press and many other special tools as i posted. Including marking paste. Good luck!!
 




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