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Posted by 91_Bimini_Coupe (Member # 11641) on :
 
This is my first time installing a pair of subframes on my 91 fox and didn't realize the fuel and brake lines ran right up agains where I am supposed to weld. I'm a little iffy on welding so close to the fuel lines and didn't want to take the fuel lines completely off. Does anyone have any advice on what to do so I don't blow both me or my car up. Thanks cafords.
 
Posted by triple b (Member # 8763) on :
 
loosen the mounting points on the hard libes and pull them out of the way! dont bend them but get enough clearence to weld
 
Posted by 91_Bimini_Coupe (Member # 11641) on :
 
Right on man ill give that a shot.
 
Posted by SwEeT03Gt (Member # 10283) on :
 
make sure suspension is loaded while installing sub-frames meaning all 4 tires should be on the ground or roll on lift
 
Posted by sneakyfox90 (Member # 9379) on :
 
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Originally posted by SwEeT03Gt:
make sure suspension is loaded while installing sub-frames meaning all 4 tires should be on the ground or roll on lift
You can also set up the jacks properly by putting them under the rear axle and under the front control arms and k member as directed from Griggs [patriot]
 
Posted by SwEeT03Gt (Member # 10283) on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by sneakyfox90:
quote:
Originally posted by SwEeT03Gt:
make sure suspension is loaded while installing sub-frames meaning all 4 tires should be on the ground or roll on lift
You can also set up the jacks properly by putting them under the rear axle and under the front control arms and k member as directed from Griggs [patriot]
True
 
Posted by 91_Bimini_Coupe (Member # 11641) on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by SwEeT03Gt:
quote:
Originally posted by sneakyfox90:
quote:
Originally posted by SwEeT03Gt:
make sure suspension is loaded while installing sub-frames meaning all 4 tires should be on the ground or roll on lift
You can also set up the jacks properly by putting them under the rear axle and under the front control arms and k member as directed from Griggs [patriot]
True
Well shit I already installed the driver side and when I installed it I had the rear supported on the axle housing but the front was supported on part of the frame allowing the wheels to hang freely without the suspension being preloaded. How serious is it? Is this gonna be a problem?
 
Posted by Duncan Motors (Member # 7045) on :
 
cut off one end of welds, then lower the car correctly as above instructed anbd see where that bar is, if its close ur lucky. you will notice it shifted, now weld that end in place if its not to crazy off.
 
Posted by sneakyfox90 (Member # 9379) on :
 
The front jacks need to be under the motor to support the weight to keep the car preloaded

Put them in between the front control arm and k member
 
Posted by 91_Bimini_Coupe (Member # 11641) on :
 
Damn I didn't think it would be that critical. Thanks for the advice everyone.
 
Posted by sneakyfox90 (Member # 9379) on :
 
If you let the engine weight hang off the end it will stress the entire body

Doors won't shut the same body lines won't line up

The front wheels can hang just make sure jacks are under the motor

[ 2013-08-28, 02:29 PM: Message edited by: sneakyfox90 ]
 
Posted by redsaleen (Member # 5565) on :
 
Make sure you have a working fire extinguisher near you when doing this. Dont ask me how i know.... I took my car to a shop recommended on this forum and not only could my car have burned to crisp, the guy doing the work and myself could have been as well.
 
Posted by 91_Bimini_Coupe (Member # 11641) on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by sneakyfox90:
If you let the engine weight hang off the end it will stress the entire body

Doors won't shut the same body lines won't line up

The front wheels can hang just make sure jacks are under the motor
Well I have my jack stands under the k-member so I'm pretty sure the weight is bein held up right. Thanks for the clarification though. I thought I was going to have to cut an re-weld.
 
Posted by 91_Bimini_Coupe (Member # 11641) on :
 
I think I'm gonna go the safe and easy route...any of you guys know a shop around the east bay near concord/ Pittsburg that would weld the passanger side in for me.?
 
Posted by Boss 327 (Member # 9143) on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by 91_Bimini_Coupe:
I think I'm gonna go the safe and easy route...any of you guys know a shop around the east bay near concord/ Pittsburg that would weld the passanger side in for me.?
Blue Chip Muffler in Antioch could probably do it for you.
 
Posted by LXjames (Member # 10791) on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by Boss 327:
quote:
Originally posted by 91_Bimini_Coupe:
I think I'm gonna go the safe and easy route...any of you guys know a shop around the east bay near concord/ Pittsburg that would weld the passanger side in for me.?
Blue Chip Muffler in Antioch could probably do it for you.
+1 for Donny
 
Posted by sneakyfox90 (Member # 9379) on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by 91_Bimini_Coupe:
quote:
Originally posted by sneakyfox90:
If you let the engine weight hang off the end it will stress the entire body

Doors won't shut the same body lines won't line up

The front wheels can hang just make sure jacks are under the motor
Well I have my jack stands under the k-member so I'm pretty sure the weight is bein held up right. Thanks for the clarification though. I thought I was going to have to cut an re-weld.
You have the jacks in the correc position but if you welded the driver side subframe while the front jacks were positioned under the frame then you need to cut the welds off and re weld it now with the jacks under he k member
 
Posted by 91_Bimini_Coupe (Member # 11641) on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by sneakyfox90:
quote:
Originally posted by 91_Bimini_Coupe:
quote:
Originally posted by sneakyfox90:
If you let the engine weight hang off the end it will stress the entire body

Doors won't shut the same body lines won't line up

The front wheels can hang just make sure jacks are under the motor
Well I have my jack stands under the k-member so I'm pretty sure the weight is bein held up right. Thanks for the clarification though. I thought I was going to have to cut an re-weld.
You have the jacks in the correc position but if you welded the driver side subframe while the front jacks were positioned under the frame then you need to cut the welds off and re weld it now with the jacks under he k member
No the jack stands were always under the k member but the shocks and springs were never preloaded like the other guy said. So I guess I'm in the clear.
 
Posted by 91_Bimini_Coupe (Member # 11641) on :
 
Thanks for the tip. Ill check and see if blue chip can help me out.
 




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