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Originally posted by Greasy:
When you get it the 1/2" away from the bell housing, have a buddy get in the car and press the clutch pedal. Then move it around, the trans should slip right in.

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Originally posted by FivePTSlow:
+4. I had this problem, but I was installing my T5 all by myself(under car in garage). I wound up getting a pry bar and sliding it in the side where the clutch fork is. Once I had the trans partially in I pushed the clutch fork in as if it were the clutch being pushed and bam the trans slid all the way in. Made me feel dumb for wrestling with it for an hour before that. I too had the clutch alignment tool, but obviously it didn't line up perfectly.

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This.
 

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Posted by Camara90 (Member # 134) on :
 
If you are solo use a c clamp on the shift fork to act as if the clutch is being pressed in. You should never need to use the bolts to have to drive the trans in the last couple inches.
 

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Posted by triple b (Member # 8763) on :
 
yep yep yep try all those ideas the beat one is getting food and a beer and coming back to it. aleays works i have even wait over nite if im pissed off
 

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Posted by Duncan Motors (Member # 7045) on :
 
the clutch disc is off buy a hair, put the bellhouseing on first. then as your installing the trans box, right when your stuck and it wont go any farther, use a pry bar to engage the clutch fork manually, this will loosen the clutch disc letting it float an be able to shift as u can now slide trans the rest of the way in.gd luck!
 

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Posted by *EPIK* (Member # 7481) on :
 
Thanks a lot guys... I'm gonna try the clutch fork thing when I get back on it in a few days...
 

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Posted by SLOWSN95 (Member # 8269) on :
 
When aligning your clutch, the alignment tool should be able to slide in and out with ease and without it catching on anything. I've been where you are and have been just as fustrated as you are now, but after taking out and reinstalling multiple manual transmissions, its a breeze now. PM me if you need any help, advice or anything at all.
 

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Posted by norcalstangman (Member # 8387) on :
 

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Originally posted by Greasy:
When you get it the 1/2" away from the bell housing, have a buddy get in the car and press the clutch pedal. Then move it around, the trans should slip right in.

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Originally posted by Greasy:
When you get it the 1/2" away from the bell housing, have a buddy get in the car and press the clutch pedal. Then move it around, the trans should slip right in.

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Do this.
 

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Posted by VENOMUS PONY 5.0 (Member # 7785) on :
 
My experience epik was the pilot bearing bore was not big enough for my t5 shaft and had to go get another and it when in like butter thats just another thing you might look into if the clutch fork process does not work.

[ May 01, 2012, 12:03 PM: Message edited by: VENOMUS PONY 5.0 ]
 

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Posted by Jaejae5.0 (Member # 7958) on :
 
Same deal I had..jus have some lone push the clutch fork with a pry bar..should slide in the last bit..goodluck
 

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Posted by hidnn.o.s. (Member # 1219) on :
 
Any update, how'd it go
 

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Posted by duncan disciple (Member # 11869) on :
 


[ May 09, 2012, 11:24 PM: Message edited by: duncan disciple ]
 

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Posted by blown95svt (Member # 8893) on :
 
I know the turbo coupe t5 has a different size input shaft and used a different pilot bearing.
 

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Posted by 1993GT (Member # 7948) on :
 
I do them my self in garage on floor I use a motorcycle jack to hold trans in place then use a regular jack to jack up motor a little on front of oil pan with a block of wood on jack to prevent damage and to get the correct angle u need to stab in make sure it is not in gear. I also use an old yoke as a plug so it makes easy to spin shaft. Start a bolt on each Side (longer bolts first) and tighten until u can start all other bolts and then when all started start on a bolt then do the opposite untill completely sucked in and Wallah. Good luck.

[ May 16, 2012, 03:30 AM: Message edited by: 1993GT ]
 

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Posted by *EPIK* (Member # 7481) on :
 

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Originally posted by hidnn.o.s.:
Any update, how'd it go

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Any update, how'd it go

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No updates yet. Haven't had time to mess with it lately unfortunately.

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It's cause you spend all your free time posting about a CTS V over the SHO you've never driven

Slap that fucker back in

[ May 16, 2012, 10:18 AM: Message edited by: hidnn.o.s. ]
 

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Posted by 1sickEXchp1988 (Member # 11451) on :
 
Pilot bearing could be too small
Clutch not center.
Incorrect angle
 

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Posted by *EPIK* (Member # 7481) on :
 

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It's cause you spend all your free time posting about a CTS V over the SHO you've never driven

Slap that fucker back in

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Originally posted by 1sickEXchp1988:
Pilot bearing could be too small
Clutch not center.
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Personally, what it feels like to me is that the pilot bearing is too small, like once we get it almost in, something is stopping it...
 

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Posted by 1993GT (Member # 7948) on :
 
I'm in north sac lmk
 

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Posted by 50DADDY (Member # 3076) on :
 
Id put the bellhousing on the trans and do it that way.
 

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Posted by dvuspny (Member # 10949) on :
 
Its just a mis-alignment of the clutch. hook up your clutch cable and have someone push the clutch pedal in all the way to the floor as you are at that very same point that you say it seems to stop. This allows for the pressure plate to dis-engage the clutch disc enough so that it can align correctly as it goes in. It will work. I trust you have installed the correct parts anyways.
 

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Posted by dvuspny (Member # 10949) on :
 
..................And now i read the whole posts.!!!!!! Poor guy got beat to death with the same message over and over!
....Well; this should have gotten you home by now. GL
 

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Posted by Luke87GT (Member # 21) on :
 
Had the same problem Dustin...

Was more tired wrestling that T5 that Ultimate Warrior was after Wrestlemania VI.

Finally, had my fattest friend step on the clutch pedal and my life was on track again.
 

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Posted by *EPIK* (Member # 7481) on :
 
Well.... Finally got the trans back in... Hooked up the clutch cable, pushed in the pedal a few times & BAM, it went right in with no issues!!! You guys were correct!


That being said, I still have a few issues before the car is done. I purchased a new stock trans mount from Auto Zone & for some reason I think it made the trans sit higher? Maybe I'm wrong, but I don't remember the front of the shifter hitting the floor pan in the trans tunnel, & also the top of the trans right in front of the shifter is hitting the floorpan as well. My car was originally an auto, so when we converted it, of course we had to cut the hole bigger for the 5 speed shifter, but today we had to bend it up a little more (since I didn't have any tools on hand to cut it out more). Anybody else have this issue??? Not the best pictures, it's hard to capture the angle, but IMO it looks like the shifter base is higher than it was before? Does it look normal to you guys? Did they give me the wrong trans mount??






[ June 22, 2012, 01:58 AM: Message edited by: *EPIK* ]
 

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Posted by *EPIK* (Member # 7481) on :
 
Another thing, when I went to put the fluid in, it took VERY long to run down into the trans almost like it was plugged, is this the norm?


Also, I noticed a rattling noise coming from the trans area under the car, & through the shifter hole. The noise goes away when the clutch is pushed in? My clutch is a Centerforce dual friction with around 10k miles on it. I only got a chance to drive the car around the block, but all gears seemed to work fine.

[ June 22, 2012, 02:12 AM: Message edited by: *EPIK* ]
 

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Posted by Camara90 (Member # 134) on :
 
Trans looks to high for sure. Is the noise from the shifter/trans hitting the tunnel? Also with it that much higher it will effect your pinion angle. Take a pic of the mount/cross member under the car.
 

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Posted by *EPIK* (Member # 7481) on :
 

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Originally posted by Camara90:
Trans looks to high for sure. Is the noise from the shifter/trans hitting the tunnel? Also with it that much higher it will effect your pinion angle. Take a pic of the mount/cross member under the car.

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Thanks for the reply bro. I thought it seemed high too. The noise goes away when the clutch is pressed in, so I'm not sure if its from the trans hitting the tunnel. U can hear it when you stick your head under the car too.


Here ya go...





[ June 22, 2012, 03:09 AM: Message edited by: *EPIK* ]
 

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Posted by triple b (Member # 8763) on :
 
trans is high does the noise chage pitchs like different sound in each gear listen at the same rpm ie. 3rd gear @ 3k amd 4th @ 3k it could be that your pinion angle is off now. u should check it with a dial guage angle finder and use a lower trans mount and adj upper control arms to fix tht

[ June 22, 2012, 10:22 AM: Message edited by: triple b ]
 

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Posted by *EPIK* (Member # 7481) on :
 

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trans is high does the noise chage pitchs like different sound in each gear listen at the same rpm ie. 3rd gear @ 3k amd 4th @ 3k it could be that your pinion angle is off now. u should check it with a dial guage angle finder and use a lower trans mount and adj upper control arms to fix tht

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Not too sure didn't really get much chance to drive it yet. Would a Duralast trans mount be so poorly designed that it would make the trans sit higher?
 

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Posted by dvuspny (Member # 10949) on :
 
Your car was originally an automatic.... The sheet metal around the shifter area is different on factory made 5-speed cars. There in fact is a seperate layer of sheet metal that is welded on at factory. It is different. This is both a larger shifter opening, and sits taller for the trans and shifted clearances.
That said.....the sheet metal area still needs trimmed off and i drill and re~use the shift boot bolt retainer clips by moving the over after trimming the sheet metal area.
The noise can be either your install is still aligned incorrectly. Or possibly even a bad trans rebuild.
Keep me posted. Talk with you soon.

[ July 01, 2012, 02:53 PM: Message edited by: dvuspny ]
 

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Posted by SS396chevelle (Member # 7277) on :
 
where the exhuast mount hangers at ?
 

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Posted by *EPIK* (Member # 7481) on :
 

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Originally posted by dvuspny:
Your car was originally an automatic. The sheet metal around the shifter area is different on factory made 5-speed cars. There in fact is a seperate layer of sheet metal that is welded on at factory. It is different. This is both a larger shifter opening, and sits taller for the trans and shifted clearances.
That said.....the sheet metal area still needs trimmed off and i drill and re~use the shifted boot bolt retainer clips by moving the over after trimming the sheet metal area.
The noise can be either your install is still aligned incorrectly. Or possibly even a bad trans rebuild.
Keep me posted. Talk with you soon.

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where the exhuast mount hangers at ?

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Originally posted by SS396chevelle:
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I took those off because they didn't fit anyway

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I took those off because they didn't fit anyway

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just think how much higher up the trans would be with installed.an yes that mount is to tall i would find a oe mount.my 91 was a aod car that i did the t5 swap to an it doesnt sit that high up in the tunnel

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where the exhuast mount hangers at ?

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